ATTN ALL----THE CHIP CHALLANGE

[Moofles]

tourerti you could probably do yourself a favour by printing the whole screen, that doesn't show any rev range, load, hp, etc so people have to rely on what you're telling them (and to be honest they're not likely to believe that, as you probably know).

[agent006]

That could be the graph for any old car. Where's the numbers on the scale? More spin than a labour press release.

[Simon13]

i thought it was 20bhp?

even if gumball wins your still.................................up his bottom. Is it dark in there?

[tourerti]

You need to speak with Ant.
Without wanting to upset anyone the image above clearly shows a shot of a given curve which you will have to accept is 3940rpm but this is verified in the hex code on the left which again, Ant will be able to confirm.
You cannot show a whole map as it doesnt work like that, it would only show a spike which wouldnt mean anything as clear as this image as this image shows a flat spot along the edge which is clearly man made and nothing to do with lack of power.
The image shows a cut in power and not a dip which is normal when power tails off.
To see this in an overall scale would equate too around 96,000 images for a complete map.

[tourerti]

That could be the graph for any old car. Where's the numbers on the scale? More spin than a labour press release.

Unless you know binary or hexidecimal code then this will mean nothing but if you pm Ant who is the forums chipper you will be able to get him to confirm this.
He can verify the data from the hex codes he uses and with the checksum of 3C78 he will be able to cross the map himself.

[scrapboy]

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[scrapboy]

tourerti

who do you know on the forum? has anyone met this person?.............................................................................................................................................?????????

tumbleweed rolling.

so thats that one out of the way!

hello jay/chipped uk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now were was i???

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[Demlotcrew]

The numbers on the scales are not in Hex or decimal.

Jay your just setting yourself up yet again

Andrew

[agent006]

Unless you know binary or hexidecimal code then this will mean nothing but if you pm Ant who is the forums chipper you will be able to get him to confirm this.
He can verify the data from the hex codes he uses and with the checksum of 3C78 he will be able to cross the map himself.

All i'm saying is there's nothing to tie that map to a 318is. Looks rather like one of the last map changes on my old quattro to get the top end to do a proper 620bhp. Could be a 750iL for all we know.

[tourerti]

As mentioned above, anyone with even the slightest understanding of how to map a car will understand the above.
Yes, it could be from a different car but it definately wouldnt be from a turbo powered car and it couldnt be from a V type engine either, only a 4 pot.
So, we have people with little brain power now in the same league as a seasoned programmer, I feel humbled in such presence.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE CONFIRM A ROLLING ROAD EVENT ORGANISED BY ANY OF THE BMW FORUMS OVER THE PAST 18 MONTHS WHERE ON A LIKE FOR LIKE BASIS ANY OTHER CHIP SUPPLIER HAS SUPPLIED A CHIP TO A CAR WHICH HAS PROVEN HIGHER GAINS THAN THAT OF CHIPPEDUK.

Stop the chitchat, lighten up and show proof, not he said she said, just fact.

[scrapboy]

you can tell when jay is lying............................................................................................................................when he types.

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ok guys and girls(jay)

when is this day happening then?

chipped uk/jay why have you been banned from every forum in the last 2 and a half years? some baaaaaaaaaaaad shit going in there dude. would you care to elaborate?

[tourerti]

Jay has only been banned off this forum, every other bmw forum he is regarded as one of the best tuners for bmw in the UK.
If you know different stop posting tripe and show proof.
This day can happen at any time, it is enevitable some people will say as scrapboy but do any of you know any time where Jay has run away, likewise do any of you actually know of a time when he has actually ripped anyone off, he had post issues but his service is superb which is proven so many times, he offer the best maps availible and constantly goes to all the testing done by bmw car mag, total bmw mag, performance bmw mag, e36 coupe, performance bmw forum, bmw car club mag and forum and on all he has proven himself hundreds of times.
Anyway, stop typing crap and post proof otherwise you make yourself look rather daft.
Also, if anyone is in doubt of if I exist (steve) then many members here have met me either through sorting problems, meeting at gaydon or at Jays place.
Yes, I type exactly what Jay asks, he is my mate, thats no crime.

[eko]

never met or had any dealings with ChippedUK but come on guys,at least he is prepared to stand up and fight his corner.

[Kos]

mr.tourerti may i remind you that the deal is 20hp in the rev range, and 15hp peak and thats cutting you some slack as your advert on e-bay says 25hp from a PLUG IN CHIP, you bring along the maps chips what ever it is wou need to do, but i thought this was not a remap?!?! this is what we agreed is it not, also stop droping the figures to give your self a chance of sucess.

i have the pm's to show this is what we agreed, now lets book a day and get on with this.

thank you

[Falkster]

This is very strange!!!! I have only been on here a short while but have been on the BMW CC forum for a couple of years and only heard good comments about Jay.

Contrary to those comments I have heard negative coments about some guy that went by the name of gumball!!!

Am I daft or is this person the same?

Either way, if he has said he will give money to charity if he cant do what he says then I think everyone should give him a break. Its not the sort of thing you say if you wont go through with it......unless youre a complete retard

[hoshy]

I had a chip from Jayson. All I can say for sure is that the check sum was different. Not the slightest difference in performance. (have two ECUs which I've swapped to test)

Putting the car on a AFR meter jayson's cheap seems to run leaner!!!

Also worth noting that he didn't program any of the chips himself but got a third party to do so.

Edit:

What I'd really like to know is why Ant doesn't sell iS chips ?

[tourerti]

No, Jay said 15hp, you said 20hp.
He agrees that if you let him live map we can up the power to 20hp, you have nothing to lose do you as you are very confident this cant be done even though bmw themself produced this engine with 23hp more than it was eventually sold with.
All they did was restrict the engine, Jay is not trying to say that he alone can get 20hp out of this engine which in itself is ridiculous, what he is saying is he is able to remove the restriction bmw placed on this particular car to get it back to the way it was intended originally.
Likewise we could choose the 750i which gives 67hp from chipping the ecu`s, again, this sounds crazy but it is fact that in each case over 50hp is possible, not though magic but because the initial restriction is removed.

[tourerti]

Edit:

What I'd really like to know is why Ant doesn't sell iS chips ?

Because Jay is the only person in the country who can guarantee to send you a chip for your 318iS that will work and give power.

[Kos]

No, Jay said 15hp, you said 20hp.
He agrees that if you let him live map we can up the power to 20hp, you have nothing to lose do you as you are very confident this cant be done even though bmw themself produced this engine with 23hp more than it was eventually sold with.
All they did was restrict the engine, Jay is not trying to say that he alone can get 20hp out of this engine which in itself is ridiculous, what he is saying is he is able to remove the restriction bmw placed on this particular car to get it back to the way it was intended originally.
Likewise we could choose the 750i which gives 67hp from chipping the ecu`s, again, this sounds crazy but it is fact that in each case over 50hp is possible, not though magic but because the initial restriction is removed.

he/you agreed, you claim in your adds 25hp from a plug in chip, so is it on or not?? if you pull out, them you will just look like a cunt, and admit you adverts are complete bollocks, IF you want to go live map well its got to be 25hp anywhere in the rev range and plug in chip 20hp ANYWHERE in the rev range with 15 peak power and keep the car drivable and not a stuttering pig which smokes with pinking under load.

[Falkster]

So what can a remap get my E30 M3 then if he can get those from an iS

[Kos]

The problem is people like yourself listen to others and then take it as gospel.
It is now proven and known that the fault on the car was in fact the tiny air filter and not the ecu as Jay had always said.
This is not me/Jay telling you this but proven fact, you can call john to confirm this.
John fitted a 48mm filter to a 65mm intake against Jay`s advice.
This caused the car to overfuel as the map pushed more fuel with the lack of air.
Now for your 318iS.
Jay has just confirmed that if he cant get 15hp from your engine with just a mapped chip he will gladly pay you what you paid for the car as well as give you Ԛ£1000.00 to the charity of your choice.
All he wants in return is the fact the truth will be published on the forum.
In truth he doesnt care about e30`s, the owners are as tight as a camels arse in a sandstorm so there is no business in this section of the market but he will comply with your challenge.

the above is a pm sent to me by toureti
a mapped chip is what you knock out on e-bay and claim 25hp so meet in the middle

[Dan318-is]

No, Jay said 15hp, you said 20hp.
He agrees that if you let him live map we can up the power to 20hp, you have nothing to lose do you as you are very confident this cant be done even though bmw themself produced this engine with 23hp more than it was eventually sold with.
All they did was restrict the engine, Jay is not trying to say that he alone can get 20hp out of this engine which in itself is ridiculous, what he is saying is he is able to remove the restriction bmw placed on this particular car to get it back to the way it was intended originally.
Likewise we could choose the 750i which gives 67hp from chipping the ecu`s, again, this sounds crazy but it is fact that in each case over 50hp is possible, not though magic but because the initial restriction is removed.

keep the car drivable and not a stuttering pig which smokes with pinking under load.

this is what mine did

[Kos]

So what can a remap get my E30 M3 then if he can get those from an iS

fuck knows, 50 hp knowing jay!!

webber alpha 48mm TB, carbon air box and cams is what you need to get 50 hp, unless you belive him

[Kos]

Edit:

What I'd really like to know is why Ant doesn't sell iS chips ?

Because Jay is the only person in the country who can guarantee to send you a chip for your 318iS that will work and give power.

ant aint obsessed by making money by ripping off people, he'll do if for a select few who will appreciate the work.

[Falkster]

So what can a remap get my E30 M3 then if he can get those from an iS

fuck knows, 50 hp knowing jay!!

webber alpha 48mm TB, carbon air box and cams is what you need to get 50 hp, unless you belive him

be a little more that a chip though wont it??

[tourerti]

At no point did he mention 20hp in the tit for tat conversation through pm, but he will go to 17hp, what you have to remember is he is sticking his rep on this and will have to deliver the goods.
He will get the power gains or lose his name and a lot of money.

The m3 will get around 6hp in the 2.5 and around 7hp in the 2.3, this is because these engines are not restricted like the 318iS.
Kos is now trying to rubbish Jay because he realises the deal is a nobrainer and one he cant win.
How about this.
Jay agrees to the deal of 17hp, if he does it kos pays Ԛ£1000,00 to a charity of Jays choice, if Jay loses he pays Ԛ£5000,00 to a charity of koss choice.
The money can be held by an indipendant via the forum before the day begins.
Now this really is putting your money where your mouth is and jay is even willing to offer odds of 5/1

[Dan318-is]

this still doesnt explain the 25bhp gains on ebay

[tourerti]

bmw claimed 321hp from the e36 m3, they did this using 102 octane fuel which is how Jay got 23hp gains using a chip on the 318iS
He also proved over 220hp on an m20 engine with the same method, this is legitimate and fully proven.
Are we all agreed that 17hp from a chip at any point in the rev range, a 17hp gain over standard.
Ԛ£1000,00 against Ԛ£5000,00
YES OR NO.

[Kos]

a chip aint gona get you 50 40 30 or 20 with a chip, a remap may get you 20 on that engine but only if you loose the AFM and run management. the engines are all restricted by the AFM an TB, so you cant get more air in, so poinless chucking in more fuel, the only thing you can do is play with the timing and "optimise the fueling"
here is my theory on engine explained, if you feed a horse more food and water will the fucker run faster, have more energy.........NO, but in excersise him and get his lungs working and cardio system working you will have a good horse who with the right food will be as perfect for his breeding. understand!

if i drink lots of red bull and eat energy food will i run faster and last a full 90mins on the park playing football ?? no, but if i train with cardio routines my body will star to get to develop, then some light weight trainging to get stronger with the right foods i will be a better athlete but only as far as my ginetics let me. S14 great ginetics and has potential for great power, m42 average ginetics ask demlotcrew, he'll understand my logic

[Kos]

bmw claimed 321hp from the e36 m3, they did this using 102 octane fuel which is how Jay got 23hp gains using a chip on the 318iS
He also proved over 220hp on an m20 engine with the same method, this is legitimate and fully proven.
Are we all agreed that 17hp from a chip at any point in the rev range, a 17hp gain over standard.
Ԛ£1000,00 against Ԛ£5000,00
YES OR NO.

220 on a m20, was it standard?? where the fuck do you get 102 octane fuel, more bullshit and hiden criteria!!!
98 octane from shell with your VIPER2 is the challange, FUCK IT, map the fucker with 98 octane for 20hp in the rev range and 15 peak. take it or leave it and stop changing what we have set ot to prove here. get me some 102 octane and plug in your chip if you want for the 25hp

[tourerti]

Theory is good but isnt always spot on.
I keep trying to help you here but your not listening, this engine was restricted very badly by the ecu, this was done with fuel part load, fuel full load, ignition and dwell.
You get a 500hp M5 and drop the spark and flow and it could go as low as 200hp with very little work, likewise you can get the power back in seconds.
We are not talking about giving an engine more power than was intended originally by bmw, we are talking about removing the restrictions bmw placed there at the start, is this so hard to grasp, every tuner on the planet knows this but I cant get this through to you.
Most bmw models are restricted in some way to lower the insurance groupings, remapping simply takes this restriction off.
Now, for the final time, Ԛ£1000.00 5/1 or not.

[Kos]

http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... d&p=107232
my qoute
http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... d&p=107237
you reply

this is the challange, this is what we agreed for all to see,
value of my car given to me plus a 1000 to a charity of my choice,
pay for work give credit and eat my own shit
that what we agreed to, no live mapping, no remapping, a mapped chip viper2, look at the link at the top for th 25hp claim.

ps, we are in england, not bloody asia.

does jay accept, or bottle it,
through out you have tried to change what we agreed on so stop dicking around and you give me a YES or NO

[tourerti]

bmw claimed 321hp from the e36 m3, they did this using 102 octane fuel which is how Jay got 23hp gains using a chip on the 318iS
He also proved over 220hp on an m20 engine with the same method, this is legitimate and fully proven.
Are we all agreed that 17hp from a chip at any point in the rev range, a 17hp gain over standard.
Ԛ£1000,00 against Ԛ£5000,00
YES OR NO.

220 on a m20, was it standard?? where the fuck do you get 102 octane fuel, more bullshit and hiden criteria!!!
98 octane from shell with your VIPER2 is the challange, FUCK IT, map the fucker with 98 octane for 20hp in the rev range and 15 peak. take it or leave it and stop changing what we have set ot to prove here. get me some 102 octane and plug in your chip if you want for the 25hp

Availible in asia out of the pump, are you not aware bmw used 102 octance to get the magical 321hp?
Also availible at most of the UK`s race circuits.
Ԛ£1000.00 5/1 or not ?

[tourerti]

Lets make it simple and firm.
17hp anywhere in the curve.
98 octane.
direct chip, no connection to the car allowed.
Ԛ£1000 5/1 yes or no?

[Kos]

bmw claimed 321hp from the e36 m3, they did this using 102 octane fuel which is how Jay got 23hp gains using a chip on the 318iS
He also proved over 220hp on an m20 engine with the same method, this is legitimate and fully proven.
Are we all agreed that 17hp from a chip at any point in the rev range, a 17hp gain over standard.
Ԛ£1000,00 against Ԛ£5000,00
YES OR NO.

220 on a m20, was it standard?? where the fuck do you get 102 octane fuel, more bullshit and hiden criteria!!!
98 octane from shell with your VIPER2 is the challange, FUCK IT, map the fucker with 98 octane for 20hp in the rev range and 15 peak. take it or leave it and stop changing what we have set ot to prove here. get me some 102 octane and plug in your chip if you want for the 25hp

Availible in asia out of the pump, are you not aware bmw used 102 octance to get the magical 321hp?
Also availible at most of the UK`s race circuits.
Ԛ£1000.00 5/1 or not ?

we are not in asia, this is a road car and ment to be drivable

your adds do not state the octane requierment