Fill and Drill 5x120 -> 4x100

[Tan91]

Has anybody done a fill and drill on their wheels, or used adaptors??

I have seen a few E30's with E38 bbs, benefits are obviously the staggered 16x8 set-up which looks a lot better than the standard 15x7 bbs.

links to the 5 lug look:-

http://media.photobucket.com/image/bmw% ... C11250.jpg

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/attachm ... 1238104426

http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com ... FmgMIh4%3D

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5308/5670 ... ee6f_z.jpg

People have most definitely done this in the USA and have had no problems with them, would be great if anybody could advise on companies that fill and drill original bbs wheels.

[mrLEE30]

If done correctly then nothing really wrong with filing the holes with aluminium and then re-drilling, if done incorrectyl then the things are dangerous, but that said the internet is hardly plagued with stories of drilled wheel falling off. But you may be lucky if you find a company that will do it for you, and if you do the price will be similar to converting to 5 stud anyway.

Adaptors are OK but you need the correct offset otherwsie the wheels stick out to much

by the way the pics you post all have five stud hub conversions, E36 M3 front set up and conpact/Z3 rear trailing arms.

[Tan91]

If done correctly then nothing really wrong with filing the holes with aluminium and then re-drilling, if done incorrectyl then the things are dangerous, but that said the internet is hardly plagued with stories of drilled wheel falling off. But you may be lucky if you find a company that will do it for you, and if you do the price will be similar to converting to 5 stud anyway.

Adaptors are OK but you need the correct offset otherwsie the wheels stick out to much

by the way the pics you post all have five stud hub conversions, E36 M3 front set up and conpact/Z3 rear trailing arms.

Fair enough, but the red vert has been fill and drilled, i can get the link to his build thread he's a member from stanceworks

Apparently Voodoo motorsport does fill and drill but the guy that does them was in an accident so he was on leave for a few months, which by the way was when i asked.

opinions on the look of the wheels??

[Tan91]

Here are the pictures reposted properly, first time posting pictures so hope it works lol...

Red Vert:




White 4 door with Alpina's:


Black 2 door:


The BBS's are from BMW 7 Series E38, and the Alpinas are probably from a 3 or 5 by the looks of it from what i can remember they are 10j on the back.

[kingludba]

White 4 door for the win!!

[MattTheHat325]

Voodoo did my rials about a year or so back from 5x112 to 4x100. They haven't fallen off yet and I do get excited behind the wheel too.

[Rav335uk]

With these wheels, you can use an 18mm adaptor from 5x120 to 4x100.



Check the link below.
1/2 way down the page.


http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthr ... 901&page=9

[tonybtonyb]

they do look good tho

[tonybtonyb]

Voodoo did my rials about a year or so back from 5x112 to 4x100. They haven't fallen off yet and I do get excited behind the wheel too.

Don't you mean your Mrs lol

[Tan91]

Voodoo did my rials about a year or so back from 5x112 to 4x100. They haven't fallen off yet and I do get excited behind the wheel too.

how much did they charge?

[Tan91]

Also are the adaptors safe enough as well? fill and drill sounds safer but unsure about adaptors...

[Rav335uk]

Never heard of adaptors giving way.
Loads of people use them without issues.

Fill and redrill can be a hit and miss if the company doesn't have a clue what they're doing.
Also, some companys don't lathe the wheels after they've worked on them, i know Voodoo don't, i've asked them a while ago on ED38.

[MattTheHat325]

What do you mean by lathe the wheels Rav? I know they didn't grind down the welds after which I was a bit put out about but it's covered by the centre caps anyway. One of my front wheels has a buckle in it, I don't know if it was buckled when I bought it because they were 5x112 so I couldn't run them tip I had them done, is it possible that the heat from the welding distorted the wheel? It doesn't look out of shape at all but on the balancing machine it wobbles a good un

[jmc330i]

With these wheels, you can use an 18mm adaptor from 5x120 to 4x100.



Check the link below.
1/2 way down the page.


http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthr ... 901&page=9

Did you get any info on these adaptors, shipping etc? I could be interested in some for my touring.
Looking at the pics on r3v, I'd say the wheels stick out quite a bit further with the adaptors than they do on my Sport.

[Rav335uk]

Matt, the wheels can distort if heated too much when welding, and when I say lathe the wheel, not the top, but the inside where the cap fits, so as to hide any evidence of a reweld jobbie.

JMC, there's a thread on R3V, by Adaptec for the adaptors.

[jmc330i]

Cheers Rav
Looks like the adaptors give more 'poke' than I'm after, especially on the fronts.
Still not sure on fill and drill though, don't want to bugger up a good set of wheels

[Rav335uk]

~He can make adaptors to a minimum of 18mm if that helps

[jmc330i]

Yeah, I saw that, but looking at some of the pics, even 18mm will be too much I think. That's just my preference though.
Fill and redrill could be an option, especially if MattTheHat325 hasn't had problems with his, its just the risk of warping the wheels I'm worried about.

[georob]

I had a set of Merc Pentas filled n drilled for my E34, had zero issues after 30k of hard use.

[jmc330i]

I had a set of Merc Pentas filled n drilled for my E34, had zero issues after 30k of hard use.

Where did you get those done?

[MattTheHat325]

Rav, yeah voodoo definately don't do that then! Is this something i could have done at any reputable machine shop? because i've got a massive urge to run mine without centre caps and that is a no no at the moment with these welds!

JMC, apart from the mentioned distorting, the actual welds are sound. I've had them on for probably coming up to 10,000 miles and it has been driven hard, and sideways! Not so much as a hint of any safety issue, no bolts have worked loose/welds cracked etc.

As said previously, if it's done properly then it poses no issues at all. It's a shame i've got one thats buckled, i'd love to get it sorted out but i'm not sure what process is used to attempt to straighten them?

[Rav335uk]

Matt, any machine shop can lathe the centres smooth easily.
Why Voodoo won't do this is a mystery, as I think it add's a better finish to the job.

If the wheels are buckled on the face, it's very difficult to straighten them, doable, but difficult

[MattTheHat325]

I know, it seems crazy really, i must admit i was a little bit annoyed at that, but the finish was lovely in fairness to them. It's not actually voodoo that does the metal work, there is a guy in a machine shop in the nextdoor unit.

Rav any idea who might be able to have a go? I've chatted to dips at length about refinishing them (diamond cutting etc) but i'm just concerned about this buckle. I was thinking about just getting some different wheels but I'll re-do these anyway, hopefully i can fit some big stoppers behind them!

[jmc330i]

Cheers Matt. Voodoo aren't doing fill and redrills for the forseeable future - their words. The main man there is not well, so only concentrating on general workshop stuff. I think someone on here mentioned this before, but I spoke to them today and they confirmed.

[Tan91]

Well I've recently spoken to them through e-mail and they said the guy that does it has had a severe injury and he is recovering at the moment. But they also mentioned they offer this service but is currently on hold.

Approx £320 for all to be filled and re-drilled!

[Rav335uk]

Well I've recently spoken to them through e-mail and they said the guy that does it has had a severe injury and he is recovering at the moment. But they also mentioned they offer this service but is currently on hold.

Approx £320 for all to be filled and re-drilled!

Adaptors work out cheaper, and you can change your wheels as often as you like

[Tan91]

Well I've recently spoken to them through e-mail and they said the guy that does it has had a severe injury and he is recovering at the moment. But they also mentioned they offer this service but is currently on hold.

Approx £320 for all to be filled and re-drilled!

Adaptors work out cheaper, and you can change your wheels as often as you like

Which adaptors would you recommend because the ET on the 7 Series E38 bbs's which are 16x8J all around are around ET25, wouldn't 18mm as a minimum adaptor length be too far out?

[Tan91]

They are ET23:-

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do ... g=36&fg=15

[Rav335uk]

Check my link on the previous page.

[Idol]

How much are the adaptors then Rav?

[Ajsingh]

Watchin this thread...

[Rav335uk]

Adaptors are about $400 dollars posted iirc.

[Shaheenk]

What about filling and drilling the actual hubs . has anyone tried this ??

[Barx325i]

unless you go for a low 5 lug PCD, 5x112 etc, 5x120 would be too large a spacing & you'd drill too close to the hub outer edge..

[Shaheenk]

Even on the rears ?