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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:12 pm

Car wont start - starter motor just clicks

Tried changing battery - no joy, starter just clicks
Tried jump-starting it from another car - no joy, starter just clicks
Tried bump-starting it with wife - no joy, couldn't get enough speed up

Called out garage mechanic
Tried jump-starting it - no joy, starter just clicks (i did tell him!)
Tried bump-starting it - no joy, couldn't get enough speed up
Tried towing - no joy, couldn't find towing eye
Tried towing eye from wife's car - no joy, wrong thread
Tried towing eye that garage mechanic went go get - no joy, wrong thread

Called out break-down truck
Tried jump-starting it - no joy, starter just clicks (i told him too!!)
Tried pushing it on to the lift at the back of his truck - no joy, iS lip too low!

Called out flat-bed truck
Tried to attach rope under car - no joy, risk of breaking iS lip
Eventually found correct towing eye after breaking one of my boot internal panels to find original tool-kit.
Car winched up on to flat-bed and taken to garage - phew!

Garage tried bypassing all wiring - no joy, starter still just clicks
Garage fitted repacement starter motor supplied by me - no joy, just whizzes round without engaging the flywheel
Garage quote Ԛ£150 for replacement starter motor (plus labour) - faint.
Pick self up off floor and phone good old GSF - Ԛ£78 + VAT off the shelf
Take to garage

Talk about cost of labour already spent - faint again.

Anyone want to buy a money pit?
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:23 pm

sorry to hear but cant stop lol glad u got it all sorted
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:32 pm

Not good Pete :?

Hope you can get it sorted OK :thumb:
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:34 pm

Uggh oohh, don't do it...so did the new starter sort the problem?

I like the way all the touring owners stick together!:lol: :group:
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:35 pm

ive got a spare panel for the rear for you, i can give it to simon for you if you want.

p.s. that starter didnt last very long.
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:44 pm

Will it fit in my chariot Mr P?

Pete i can get this on monday to ease your woes mate!

Sorry to hear more bloody problems. There cannot be much left now to replace.

My new SE was giving it the ticking noise from the starter motor. A proper battery sorted it. So my guess would of been not enough power getting to it
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:47 pm

Ah tell me about it man.....The list is never ending!

ABS lights on, central locking dont work, its leaking oil pretty bad, heater matrix just died and its got a nasty miss fire LOL.

Getting a lot of it done before chsitmas now, was thinking of selling, but nope changed me mind. Love it to much, so gunna splash the cash out and get it sorted.
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:59 pm

Harsh Pete!

Did you know the iS lips just unclip if you pull them forwards away from the car? This makes hoisting the car up much easier.

Also, could have tried whacking the starter motor with a heavy object whilst someone is trying to turn it over. This sometimes frees up a starter motor just as it's about to fail completely.
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:28 pm

pete

as adam said. the i.s spoiler is easly detached.

as for the starter that was put on and just turning without engaging, thats the wrong starter for the engine. sound like a 4 pot starter.

there are 2 types. the 6 pot one has ribs on the casing around the pinion. the 4 pot one has no ribs.
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:52 pm

Sorry to hear of your woes - life is never easy!
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Post Thu Nov 24, 2005 10:52 pm

Keep in there dude!

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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 8:41 am

Thanks for all the words of support and encouragement - one of the great things about this place (though my wife thinks it's funny for some reason!!).

AndyP - thanks for the offer of the replacement side panel - how much do you want for it? It's the one on the right hand side as you look into the boot.

Simon - that would be great if you could pick the side panel up sometime - no rush though.

Thanks to both of you for this.
E30Adam wrote:Did you know the iS lips just unclip if you pull them forwards away from the car? This makes hoisting the car up much easier.
Not on mine it doesnt!! Mine's screwed, glued and rivetted on to avoid anyone thinking they can nick it off my car!! Didn't realise it would cause such issues though, but at least i know now.
E30Adam wrote:Also, could have tried whacking the starter motor with a heavy object whilst someone is trying to turn it over. This sometimes frees up a starter motor just as it's about to fail completely.
I had tried this last time it happened with no joy.

I went to talk to the mechanic last night and he's convinced both motors are knackered, so i gave him the new one from GSF and he's going to fit it today. I guess it could have been an intermittant problem with the motor, in which case i'm probably best off fitting a new one.

Thanks again to everyone for your support - nice one!!
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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 9:44 am

PeteE30Tourer wrote:Thanks for all the words of support and encouragement - one of the great things about this place (though my wife thinks it's funny for some reason!!).

AndyP - thanks for the offer of the replacement side panel - how much do you want for it? It's the one on the right hand side as you look into the boot.

Simon - that would be great if you could pick the side panel up sometime - no rush though.

Thanks to both of you for this.


Thanks again to everyone for your support - nice one!!

its yours dude no charge, lets say a donation from the zone crew. will give it to Simon on Monday.
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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 10:43 am

andyp wrote:
its yours dude no charge, lets say a donation from the zone crew. will give it to Simon on Monday.
Andy-you star :D :cool:

zone spirit alive and well,

pete, it appears you've tried everything to get the car to start, so it is prob down to the starter now, so fingers crossed!

good luck

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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:01 pm

Best place to break down is outside Halfords if you have AA cover. Chances are if Halfords have the part they will fit it for you.
Worked for me when my water pump failed on my 316
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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:08 pm

andyp wrote:
PeteE30Tourer wrote:Thanks for all the words of support and encouragement - one of the great things about this place (though my wife thinks it's funny for some reason!!).

AndyP - thanks for the offer of the replacement side panel - how much do you want for it? It's the one on the right hand side as you look into the boot.

Simon - that would be great if you could pick the side panel up sometime - no rush though.

Thanks to both of you for this.


Thanks again to everyone for your support - nice one!!

its yours dude no charge, lets say a donation from the zone crew. will give it to Simon on Monday.
TOP MAN Andy!! Cheers mate - very much appreciated. It's people like you that really make this place really work.
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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:13 pm

Have you tried checking the supply voltage to the starter?
Had this problem with my step bros 306, tried two new starters and same problem! changed the earth strap Ԛ£2.50 and started fine after that?
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Post Fri Nov 25, 2005 1:17 pm

good luck fixing that car pal, the worst is now passed and now its time to get that beast on the road again

all the best mate keep us posted :D

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Post Sat Nov 26, 2005 10:14 pm

Just for the record - it was the starter motor - they fitted the one i bought from GSF and all is well again - car back on the road, but not without some issues remaining.....

See post in Tech Help section if you're interested.
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Post Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:45 pm

PeteE30Tourer wrote:Just for the record - it was the starter motor - they fitted the one i bought from GSF and all is well again - car back on the road, but not without some issues remaining.....

See post in Tech Help section if you're interested.
glad that the starter is fixed :cool: :D

i'll pop over to tech help to see what else has gone awry
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