Please read/vote - How much would you say this is worth?...

[SCOTT325SE]

Been offered ANOTHER steed guys. Local car, tidy owner, not chavved, not ragged.

Its an F plate 325 2 door
met paint in good nic
rear arches are practically rust free
scuttles are rust free
sills are rust free.
few rust spots elsewhere, but very minor.
15" bbs
lowered 40mm
standard cloth interior in good shape
tech 1 wheel
no OBC
manual
leccy windows
leccy roof
leccy mirrors
rear blind
140k
bodywork is straight
full stainless exhaust (not chav)
no kit, but then again, theres nowhere for water to hide and rust it!
car runs and drives well.
its taxed till march or may... i forget which!


now the problem...... no MOT and i dont know what its going to need.

So..... what would you pay for a 325 with no MOT but that drives well and has no major bodywork issues?

Please vote

Thanks guys

[Adam318i]

I voted Ԛ£700-Ԛ£900, but would say about Ԛ£775-800.

[fuzzy]

with no mot i woulnt pay more than Ԛ£300-Ԛ£400 for it. if it only needed minor work to get the mot he would have done it so id bank on some bigger problems.

[SCOTT325SE]

with no mot i woulnt pay more than Ԛ£500-Ԛ£600 for it. if it only needed minor work to get the mot he would have done it so id bank on some bigger problems.

ive had a quick once-over myself and nothing leaps at me, and i know a bit about these cars now, so im confident its nothing major.
The guy works continental shifts, has 3 kids, his missus runs her own business and he helps out with that when he's not working, he's part of a local school board of governors too, so to be fair to the guy, when he said he didnt have time to get the MOT done, i honestly believe him. lol

[fuzzy]

sorry mate, i dont go in for that "dont have time to mot it" how long does it take , an hour? for the sake of a couple of hours and Ԛ£40 for an mot it could be the difference between another Ԛ£500-Ԛ£600 on the cars value. everyone would find the tiime for that id defenately be wary.

[SCOTT325SE]

lol. i know the guy mate, and trust me... he doesnt have time. He knows im into E30s so he asked me if i wanted to make an offer on it. He's got an e36 and e46 aswell, so its not like he needs the money for it.

[fuzzy]

maybe im to cynical...i wouldnt trust a nun even if it was a one owner from new! how much have you offered?

[SCOTT325SE]

maybe im to cynical...i wouldnt trust a nun even if it was a one owner from new! how much have you offered?

i havnt yet.

[Simon13]

i said the lowest, soundslike my 325SE i bought. Drive good, mot the car soon see what it needs then

what colour?!

[SCOTT325SE]

funnily enough its dolphin, but i didnt want to add that because it makes it sound my old SE. In effect, its almost the same car!

[Grantley]

I.M.O all this "havent got time to M.O.T it" is horse shit. If the cars that good why not get it done ? The fact is this, your buying a car that is not fit or legal for use on the public roads, I,ve heard so many cases of "only a few bits and pieces and its sorted" then a load of tears and money later your stuck with a car thats cost you the earth just to get it legal when you could have saved all the grief and loot and bought a good un in the first place. Buyer beware !

[SCOTT325SE]

guys, read my post - i havnt even made the guy an offer on it yet!

all i asked was "How much would you say this is worth" not "whats your opinion on this..."

i KNOW the possibilities of MOT's and failures, but what im asking is "how much would YOU say this is worth?"
Incidentally, what i said in my very first post should tell you that its not a dog.
What i said in my second post should also tell you that im not buying blind and that i know what im on about.... "and i know a bit about these cars now, so im confident its nothing major "
1 look at my post count and the other thing you should conclude is that i've kinda been around a while.... so i do tend to know what faces me with an e30 now.


Dont mean to have a go, but it feels like this is going to a "lets have a slag at anyone elses shit" thread again, which im sure we have all read far too much of over the last few months.

sorry like, but just answer the question please. (PLEASE)

[Simon13]

Well if your confident the body is good my only concerns would be suspension and brakes? this is what i don't know on mine. It brakes good but what if all the pipes are rusty?!

I assume as there is no ticket it's just run out or it's been stood up for a little while?

with no ticket it's not worth more than a few hundred surely?

[SCOTT325SE]

its taxed till march or may... i forget which!

no mot at all.

[HartgeH27]

Well if your confident the body is good my only concerns would be suspension and brakes? this is what i don't know on mine. It brakes good but what if all the pipes are rusty?!

I assume as there is no ticket it's just run out or it's been stood up for a little while?

with no ticket it's not worth more than a few hundred surely?

Spot on Simon.........................

[craigieeb]

right i'v voted Ԛ£400-Ԛ£700
simply because it has no M.O.T yeah you'v had a good look at the outside of the car, but underneeth? could be problem's there, brake lines, (not too much trouble, but still a failing point, could be rust on the floor pans, fuel lines, unevan handbrake, etc etc,

if you can try and get under it with a little toffie hammer and have a good poke about mate,

[Jon_Bmw]

I voted Ԛ£400-700 earlier but think I should have actually gone for the bottom catorgory. Have you driven it scott? As this will tell you a huge amount, as you know. Does it overheat, does the abs work(if it has ABS) does it pull to one side whilst braking. Does the handbrake work effectively.

Whilst you are driving it play with all the electrics, even one broken regulator can be a pain in the arse to fix. These little niggly things are the things that will cost you in time, if not parts.

I know you know the e30 inside out so I would assumed you've checked for yourself all the known weaknesses on the e30? If this is the case then you can check things like brake lines visually for rust etc. The felixible hoses at the front open the steering wheel on full, get a mate to stamp on the brakes whilst you are looking at the brake lines. They shouldn't buldge much if at all.

If you are super thorough you could check the wheel bearings if you can jack up the wheels individually? Disc and pad wear at the same time(especially if its been sat-you may find there is too much corrosion on the discs and they'll need replacing?)

Then finally and i'm sure you will, if it turns into a sh!tter and the MOT is going to cost you more than you can be bothered with, can you turn it into a frag fest and make the money back that you lost buying it in the first place? Plus some money for the time taken to break it and the space it uses up.

Hope this helps a bit.

Jon

[320Touring]

I voted for 100-400.

Way I see it- you dont NEED another car-its basically an indulgence, so its of no great importance to you whether he accepts a low offer or not!

a max of 400 means that if it takes Ԛ£300 worth of parts/labour to pass an MOT, you'll have a usable car for Ԛ£700 which is none too shabby.

However if it costs Ԛ£40 to MOT then you've got yourself a bargin

[andrewe30m3]

No MOT, means its worth bugger all. Sorry.

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[Toby_Unna]

I.M.O all this "havent got time to M.O.T it" is horse shit. If the cars that good why not get it done ? The fact is this, your buying a car that is not fit or legal for use on the public roads, I,ve heard so many cases of "only a few bits and pieces and its sorted" then a load of tears and money later your stuck with a car thats cost you the earth just to get it legal when you could have saved all the grief and loot and bought a good un in the first place. Buyer beware !

sorry mate, i dont go in for that "dont have time to mot it" how long does it take , an hour? for the sake of a couple of hours and Ԛ£40 for an mot it could be the difference between another Ԛ£500-Ԛ£600 on the cars value. everyone would find the tiime for that id defenately be wary.

what a load of nonsense

if the seller gets all their car repairs done at a garage, then MOTing a car at BEST means a morning getting it tested (during work hours unless you have a saturday morning to waste), plus a big garage bill to fix a load of small niggles, plus another morning to re-test it.

i can see plenty of people not being bothered to go through that for an old few-hundred-quid BMW they want rid of. this doesn't mean walk into it blindfold, but assuming the car is a wreck is plain stupid.

sounds like a good car Scott, and you should get it cheap because, as you can see from this thread, people get scared witless by the words no MOT and hence the car isn't worth much.

and for the record I've bought several un-MOT cars cheap (ebay) and never had a problem (or all that much expense) getting them on the road

[320Touring]

I.M.O all this "havent got time to M.O.T it" is horse shit. If the cars that good why not get it done ? The fact is this, your buying a car that is not fit or legal for use on the public roads, I,ve heard so many cases of "only a few bits and pieces and its sorted" then a load of tears and money later your stuck with a car thats cost you the earth just to get it legal when you could have saved all the grief and loot and bought a good un in the first place. Buyer beware !

sorry mate, i dont go in for that "dont have time to mot it" how long does it take , an hour? for the sake of a couple of hours and Ԛ£40 for an mot it could be the difference between another Ԛ£500-Ԛ£600 on the cars value. everyone would find the tiime for that id defenately be wary.

what a load of nonsense

if the seller gets all their car repairs done at a garage, then MOTing a car at BEST means a morning getting it tested (during work hours unless you have a saturday morning to waste), plus a big garage bill to fix a load of small niggles, plus another morning to re-test it.

i can see plenty of people not being bothered to go through that for an old few-hundred-quid BMW they want rid of. this doesn't mean walk into it blindfold, but assuming the car is a wreck is plain stupid.

sounds like a good car Scott, and you should get it cheap because, as you can see from this thread, people get scared witless by the words no MOT and hence the car isn't worth much.

and for the record I've bought several un-MOT cars cheap (ebay) and never had a problem (or all that much expense) getting them on the road

valid points Toby! Its not the fear of "no MOT" that upsets me, just that IMO it devalues the car somewhat

[Grantley]

I havent got time to get into a debate and i do take the point about people having a go as oppose to giving their idea of a price for the car ! I think my original point still stands, a car without an M.O.T therefore not road legal isnt worth very much at all. I wouldnt pay much because in this case the buyer is taking all the risks, and for those of you confident enough to buy cars without an M.O.T good luck. I'm just offering my opinion and basicly advising caution, no need to start spitting your dummies out boys just an opinion !

[Moofles]

a car with a couple of months MOT is just as useless as a car with no MOT!

but as toby says that's no reason to say it'll be a shed!

[ROC]

I would pay Ԛ£300 tops.

[Richy325iTouring]

scott you know whats its worth and what its most likly to fail on come mot time

i wouldnt pay much more than Ԛ£250 - 300 tops but thats me

and before anyone else goes on about mot
they arnt worth the parer they are printed as they are effectivly only really valid at the time they are issued
and yes i used to work in an mot testing station

[Grantley]

M.O.T's arent worth the paper thier written on, I couldnt agree more but the cars still not road legal without one and that means it aint worth much !

[Richy325iTouring]

hence why i said about 250

lets face the guy aint gona let it go for free and must have some idea whats its worth

[Grantley]

I See your point mate but you gotta try your luck with these things, if you dont ask you wont get !

[calipsodream]

no mot mate ive bought a few like that some have been easy other have nasty suprises why hasnt he moted it? id go to 200 quid mate andy

[SCOTT325SE]

from the votes cast above, using the midpoints of the pricing groups, the average price you guys reckon its worth is Ԛ£523.
(By the grouped mean average)

Thanks for the opinions guys. I'll go from there i think.

Muchos thankos

Scott