Just stance

[verde]

There are some funny/strange things i've seen done in the vw scene. Would'nt consider it myself but originality is rare!!

Any ice hockey fans

iv seen some of the american boys do that haha. use hockey pucs to raise trucks. absolute nutters

[Kos]

when i first joined this site i mentioned mike burroughs ( owner of rusty the e28 now on bags with metal interior and diesel coated rust for paint, the e9 there and stanceworks ) and people went absolute ape shit cos he wasnt OEM and were insulted at what i intended to do with the car id purchased like they had some right to it and what i did. its absolutely insane, fair enough this whole stance scene isnt for everyone but dont go ******* crazy when people try to push the boundaries of car customisation and design. seen as im buying that new mint black e30 im turning my white one into a proper euro influenced rat beast just to pee pee u guys off who think a bit off innovation is rocking the boat.

mike burroughs is a freak who turn the world on its head

rusty is/was a legendary car, but the problem is everyone thinks they can buy a shitter, rust it and deck it on cheap coilovers shiny wheels and expects every one to think that they are a hero

its sheep , not innovation

[verde]

i knew u would comment kos i remember u were one of the ones to comment on my original post

i agree some people now do try and turn some shit heap car into a rat as hell icon which is insane because even mikes e28 started as a mint as hell car that deteriorated

even so there is a rat car scene and that cant be denied

[Blitz]

What do you think of this then?

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showt ... hp?t=25505

[bab-91]

The rat scene has been done to death in my opinion.

Mikes rusty made me laugh but the only original thing about the build was the gold plated wheels, doubt that's been done outside the middle east.....

Did like the ww2 fighter style art work on it tho.

That link above is wrong... shame on you blitz

[verde]

porsche are horrible stanced or not.

the rat scene shouldnt be a " scene " u acheive, it should just happen to a car or be an attitude. the problem was rusty made it into something that gets popularised where people attempt to make their cars look like that and its just wrong.

anyway, stance for all

[bab-91]

Sorry it was wagenworks I bought lol, only glanced at link! My bad!!

But there very much worth buying, they started out d*cking about and now getting real work. Doing goldrush rally now!

[Kos]

porsche are horrible stanced or not.

you're on drugs if you dont like a 993


Mo, that porka is a fail. Nankangs FFS

[verde]

maybe i dont take enough drugs to appreciate 993s. il have to up the dosage
porsche just got ruined for me by the 30 year old office working boxter driver scared to buy a real sports car. its kinda tainted the image for me, iv seen a few i like. i like the old 911 turbos with the huge real spoiler from the 70s

[nickso]

Do the words "stance" or "stanced" not make anyone else shiver with disgust? Another daft septic word for weird kids to get a hard-on when describing their shitty rat polo.

[Gouki]

Nankang/Ling Long/Ting Tang tyres for the win!!!

[verde]

nick, stanced is quicker way of saying " a vehicle in which the owner has tastfully and quite skillfully selected the correct rim diameter width and tyre size combined with spacer and suspension set up "

[nickso]

nick, stanced is quicker way of saying " a vehicle in which the owner has tastfully and quite skillfully selected the correct rim diameter width and tyre size combined with spacer and suspension set up "

Not judging by those pics Euan.

[Kos]

stance has existed for year and people HAVE been doing it forever in every 'scene' of car modification. STANCE is now an adjective for 'wheels and drop' it's just used incorrectly now because of a website. Low cars and low et fitment wheels is nothing new

but now you see every one rave about it. for me there is nothing special about a car that sits low on air bags and 'dumps' it on the ground at meet and calls it stance or hella flush or some other retarded name, the same applies when they use coilovers ( usually cheap ones )

while some of my cars may have had a nice 'stance' i have never used the terms to define the/a 'scene' or look i want

i set my cars up to sit nicely they then up having a nice stance, which basically means its lowered to a point where it is aesthetically pleasing to the eye.

if i want my wheels to sit further out i'll say that i want a wider track. this means they will be flush with the arches, which in turn developed into 'hellaflush'

i do not say i'm going for a hellaflush look and i want poke blah blah blah

right now, people cut their springs but if they have a few quid fit the cheapest coilovers available with no real insight to how they will perform, they ride on bump stops, then roll their arches with baseball bats or any other object that does an equally foul job and stretch tyres to fit into a scene.
FFS people will stretch tyres onto 6j wheels and 20mm spacers and the cheapest tyre they can find. that worries me.

call me a snob if you want, but if you are going to stretch a tyre please use on thats decent not some cheap and dangerous brand linglongs/nankangs/nexens

some of the standards that these cars are at is a joke, and if that all people aspire to and what the rest of the world see as the cutting edge or ground breaking automotive modifications then standards drop

why does it bother me, because some people have no idea what goes into building a car from the ground up to a good standard and by doing what they do an having a sub culture with one of these retarded names gives them a sense of inner satisfaction that only their playmates in the self styled group this is great

i went to the stance meet at ace cafe a while ago. maybe a hand full of the cars there were decent the rest were scrap

[verde]

thats a good point actually kos the whole cutting corners thing is just a joke i agree. cutting springs leaving stock shocks and rather than spending decent cash on 8s or 9s just putting 25 mm worth of spacers on and forcing plastic value tyres on them isnt a great plan.

it shows well enough when they actually put the car in motion though and the thing rolls round corners like a burst arse sliding uncontrollably.

i think aslong as performance isnt sacrificed for image gain its not too bad

[Kos]

but most times, performance of the suspension is severely affected

most of them are fucking looser

how can that cock with the porka fit nankangs !! its beyond me

[e30topless]

Kos your a secret stance freak ?

don't get me started on these fooking idiots,

they take a half decent car lower it until it's undrivable and blow twice as much as the cars cost on phat rimz with streched tyres ? 3 months later their creation is scrap if it wasn't already.. but who cares ?
so long as they get some nice creative pics of the shitbox they have created rotting in an alley...

I'm all for preservation of these classics so they can grace the roads for at least another 20 years,
now if the stance cocks were lovers of Mondeo's and the usual disposable crap then fair enough, crack on

[tonybtonyb]

Having any car low is fine but if they are even lower there no point not unless you drive on the motorway 24 7 and some of the A'B roads have so many pots holes cracks etc.you'll end up damaging yours rims,your car!

[verde]

Gained alot of respect for kos there. Obviously appreciates the look and application but doesnt stand the car ruining idiots which there are too many off. Hopefully as their sumps grind down and their cars do die the only peole left will be the ones with sense

[Kos]

Kos your a secret stance freak ?

stance init

[gooner1]

How could anyone NOT like that.

[Grrrmachine]

i think aslong as performance isnt sacrificed for image gain its not too bad

This sums up everything I hate about all of this "scene" bollocks. I can't remember seeing a single car where the performance aspect isn't compromised in some way; that's why there's hatred even for the air-filter change that you mentioned earlier.

Fine, cock around with your pointless little V-dub, but BMW were always designed as performance vehicles, and compromising performance for the sake of aesthetics won't get any respect from me.

If you want stupid sized wheels and no suspension on your car, then stick to Matchbox, and leave BMWs alone.

[capri_rob]

This sums up everything I hate about all of this "scene" bollocks

Yep

but as long as they're ruining sh1tboxes and not decent cars let the stancec0cks get on with it.

Every one they feck up just makes properly looked after cars even better and more valuable.

[Jhonno]

Stancecock..

[DanThe]

stance init

Nice ghetto cruza bruv

[bhups]

You guys sound like grumpy old men! LOL! This was my "stanced" e36. LOL!

[Rav335uk]

Was that on Dip's stand at Gaydon Bhups?

[Tom_Maverick]

when i first joined this site i mentioned mike burroughs ( owner of rusty the e28 now on bags with metal interior and diesel coated rust for paint, the e9 there and stanceworks ) and people went absolute ape shit cos he wasnt OEM and were insulted at what i intended to do with the car id purchased like they had some right to it and what i did. its absolutely insane, fair enough this whole stance scene isnt for everyone but dont go ******* crazy when people try to push the boundaries of car customisation and design. seen as im buying that new mint black e30 im turning my white one into a proper euro influenced rat beast just to pee pee u guys off who think a bit off innovation is rocking the boat.

no-one went apeshit because he wasn't OEM ?! most of the people on here have made massive mods to their cars.. engine changes, brakes, wheels etc etc.. not just dropped the stinker on silly little tyres and cheap wide rims.. and these people aren't pushing the boundaries.. it's all been done before.. My caddy had stretched tyres on 9" wide rims in 2002 and it was ON THE FLOOR.. that's my point.. it's all just copy club balls.. and I think you'll find the only person you'll annoy by building a turd rat stinker is yourself.. the point is.. like 20" rims on a saxo it's a look that people think they can 'better' by going more extreme.. not realising that past a certain point it becomes a mockery of itself.. (fake jugs = fair enough... Pete Burns = What the f*ck?..)

you need to step away from the computer.. go sit in the car.. and have a really good think about why you're into cars and what you are doing with it.. if your answer is forum based and revolves around a 'scene' of other peoples ideas.. then you need to turn the computer off and start thinking for yourself..

[pacerpete]

Lowering cars until they are virtually undriveable and fitting wheels that are worth more than the car is hardly an original trend or particularly clever.
If you are a Johnnynomates and really badly want to get noticed and get people talking, put on some lingerie and get your c0ck out,it worked for Tay !

[bhups]

Was that on Dip's stand at Gaydon Bhups?

Yeah it was in 2010.

[cecotto479]

........30 year old office working boxter driver scared to buy a real sports car................

Have you ever driven a Boxster?

[Tom_Maverick]

maybe i dont take enough drugs to appreciate 993s. il have to up the dosage
porsche just got ruined for me by the 30 year old office working boxter driver scared to buy a real sports car. its kinda tainted the image for me, iv seen a few i like. i like the old 911 turbos with the huge real spoiler from the 70s

don't look down on 30 year olds.. we came up with a lot of the ideas you're trying to copy.. badly.. with no clue of why you're doing it..
and why is a boxter not a real sports car?! ok it's not my cup of tea but it'd take both of your cars apart if you managed, by some feat of engineering, to combine the horsepower of the two..
you want to scrape all your paint off and follow the herd of d*ckheads then go for it.. not even sure where this thread is going any more.. it appears to be you, coming up with ideas that I doubt will even come to fruition and basically talking about a subject you read about on a forum and saw some pictures of, rusty slammington was innovative.. did you see under the bonnet? add to that the roof chop etc.. still couldn't really hammer it though.. all show = no go, and all the kids think pouring brake fluid on a 4 door E36 will somehow be as cool.. I think not..

[suedenim]

maybe i dont take enough drugs to appreciate 993s. il have to up the dosage
porsche just got ruined for me by the 30 year old office working boxter driver scared to buy a real sports car. its kinda tainted the image for me, iv seen a few i like. i like the old 911 turbos with the huge real spoiler from the 70s

Mid engined, flat 6, RWD = not a real sports car?
Whilst I can understand that the hairdresser, bimbo types can ruin the image of the car, the cars will eventually be owned by those who actually understand the dynamics and engineering of a marque. The mistake prosche made was to give the boxster a 996 front, creating the 'not a proper porsche' attitude when it is a follow on from the 914/6.

Reading Total BMW this month (I think) 80% of owners couldn't tell you which end the car is driven from, perhaps missing some of the point and following marketing, image and brand reputation; cars that will eventually be owned by enthusiasts who appreciate the engineering.

[pac1982]

How could anyone NOT like that.

that is epic everything i wanted my touring to look like but could not find a white one with a nice spec

[verde]

Whut? all show no go. Rusty had a twin turboed supra engine in the final stages. Im not looking down on 30 year olds im saying traditionally boxters are driven by middle aged pen pushers. As for the whole rat e30 thing thered no point me turning that rung white piece of shit into a gem cause its never going to be one so il rat it up. The mint litte black one im getting in the coming month wil be kept clean and untainted with the alpinas so im hardly tainting the badge