HELP DISASTER ADVICE NEEDED!!!!

[BATTS91]

no worrys hope you get on road soon and have more luck

[capri_rob]

Are those ECP and dealer parts prices full whack ?

Contact meatballs82 on here for discounts on the ECP stuff ( Some of that looks far too expensive ) - and if you order over £100 worth delivery is free

Contact cotswold BMW via the "genuine parts" page for all your dealer only bits and get at least 10% off your order.

If those prices are full whack I reckon you can get at least £100 off that bill with discounts.

[318isPMK]

dunno mechanic emailed me today

[capri_rob]

Looks like full whack off the ECP website.

ECP have a promo on at the moment for 25% off service parts so your filters, plugs, oil and coolant should all be 25% cheaper to start with.

Depends who you talk to at BMW dealers - Cotswold give a blanket e30zone discount of 10% and free delivery for any orders over £20 IIRC

If you speak to your local dealer for a big enough order you should be able to get at least 10% off maybe more.

If thats the list I would offer to source the bits yourself leaving just the pressure test & reface ( not a bad price for that BTW ) to the mechanic to sort.

[DHFiS]

Try C3BMW for timing chain parts

http://www.c3bmw.co.uk/StockItem.asp?ca ... m=unassign

[Jimbob]

Cotswold BMW are fantastic, even when they don't have stock I usually receive the item within 3 days, they put my local dealer to shame big time.

[318isPMK]

Dunno what they are so if its not exactly as listed, I wouldnt know what I was buying unfortunatly

[capri_rob]

In that case just explain to whoever is ordering the bits on your behalf ( assuming they are just charging you for labour and not loading the price of the bits ) that if they order from ECP you are aware of a 25% discount online for the service bits and any BMW dealer should give them at least 10% off.

They have given you all the part codes so no excuse for ordering the wrong stuff - you cant go wrong with the service bits anyway if you deal with Matt ( meatballs82 ) anyway - he will check it all to make sure you get the right stuff.

Bosch plugs BTW are not as good as NGK's.

No point paying full price on a parts order the best part of £900 if it should be more like £750 - £800 just by making sure you get the discounts that are easily available.

Just trying to help you save some dollar mate

[E30BeemerLad]

set of genuine headbolts here for £15

http://bmminiparts.com/PartDetails.aspx ... 3100BB2190

oil filter £5.18

http://bmminiparts.com/PartDetails.aspx ... CBB13FA261

other iS engine bits here http://bmminiparts.com/SearchResult.asp ... 256&Type=P

[Speedtouch]

When doing a compression test, it is normal to remove all the spark plugs, and hold the throttle wide open. (Also best to remove the fuel pump relay).

This way, the engine turns over with the least resistance from the other cylinders.

[rhubarb]

When doing a compression test, it is normal to remove all the spark plugs, and hold the throttle wide open. (Also best to remove the fuel pump relay).

This way, the engine turns over with the least resistance from the other cylinders.

I was going to say the very same.

[DanThe]

Seems it will be owing you 5 bags sooner than expected!

FFS, someone new comes on here looking for some help and the best that Ross_Jsy can do is have a pop at him for a decision he's happy with. It's his car, his money, if you've nothing constructive to say, wind your neck in and go bother someone else, preferably on another forum.

I have my own opinions on what he should've done, but I don't get a lift from kicking someone when they are down.

There's no value in having a web forum if it exists for people to slag each other off, the purpose of it is so we can help each other, which we should all keep in mind.

Its called constructive criticism, its most likely being written to help him realise the error of his ways, surely if it was slanging it would read something like - "your the biggest bell end ive ever heard of, who the hell would pay 4 large for a ponced up blow over paint jobbed P40 mobile with a wheezing donkey on its last legs and suck the cock of the thief that sold it to him"

[pacerpete]

Seems it will be owing you 5 bags sooner than expected!

FFS, someone new comes on here looking for some help and the best that Ross_Jsy can do is have a pop at him for a decision he's happy with. It's his car, his money, if you've nothing constructive to say, wind your neck in and go bother someone else, preferably on another forum.

I have my own opinions on what he should've done, but I don't get a lift from kicking someone when they are down.

There's no value in having a web forum if it exists for people to slag each other off, the purpose of it is so we can help each other, which we should all keep in mind.

Its called constructive criticism, its most likely being written to help him realise the error of his ways, surely if it was slanging it would read something like - "your the biggest bell end ive ever heard of, who the hell would pay 4 large for a ponced up blow over paint jobbed P40 mobile with a wheezing donkey on its last legs and suck the c**k of the thief that sold it to him"

Forgive Dan, the rusty battery clamp with the incorrect bolt has set him off !

[cecotto479]

FWIW the throttle was held open during the test. No. 3 cylinder only was briefly tested because:-

1. The engine whirrs over so quickly on the starter that it's patently obvious that it has no compression.

2. The AA had tested 1,2, and 4 and reported no compression, but honestly a compression tester was not really necessary to confirm. That "0" reading is after the test.

Parts prices are direct by phone from the local ECP and by email from the dealers. I prefer to use the local branches because they deliver two or three times a day and when, in the case of ECP, they inevitably send the wrong parts, I'll get the right ones later that day, not later that week.

If Paul wants to check the ETK, identify the parts required, phone and email two or three different suppliers and get the parts himself, by mail order he's welcome to. Saves me a lot of non productive time and hassle.

[DanThe]

Seems it will be owing you 5 bags sooner than expected!

FFS, someone new comes on here looking for some help and the best that Ross_Jsy can do is have a pop at him for a decision he's happy with. It's his car, his money, if you've nothing constructive to say, wind your neck in and go bother someone else, preferably on another forum.

I have my own opinions on what he should've done, but I don't get a lift from kicking someone when they are down.

There's no value in having a web forum if it exists for people to slag each other off, the purpose of it is so we can help each other, which we should all keep in mind.

Its called constructive criticism, its most likely being written to help him realise the error of his ways, surely if it was slanging it would read something like - "your the biggest bell end ive ever heard of, who the hell would pay 4 large for a ponced up blow over paint jobbed P40 mobile with a wheezing donkey on its last legs and suck the c**k of the thief that sold it to him"

Forgive Dan, the rusty battery clamp with the incorrect bolt has set him off !

TBH Pete im just jealous of this porridge wog traders ability to snare complete and utter victims that were obviously born to be abused

[318isPMK]

Eh no ta! lol like I said I wouldnt know what im looking at! listed for info only

[DanThe]

like I said I wouldnt know what im looking at!

We already knew that

[318isPMK]

someone whom boasts about being politically incorrect.... kinda slags urself mate.... just change the picture to a swastica u rat bag.

Im amazed the rock u live under has wifi!

[Dezzy]

someone whom boasts about being politically incorrect.... kinda slags urself mate.... just change the picture to a swastica u rat bag.

Im amazed the rock u live under has wifi!

You'll need a thicker skin and a better sense of humour around here pal.

If your going to bite this hard, over so little, this often your going to be for a ruff ride.

[318isPMK]

its not really think skin or a sense of humour thats needed... seldom whats been written by some fuds has been witty or humourous just obnoxious so I'd think maybe some members need to get funnier.

and that not biting mate simply a rebuttal

[skipunda]

To be fair Dan was sounding like a bit of an arse ( ), using a phrase like 'born to be abused' would wind anyone up.

Play nicely now, this thread was kept open in good faith.

[318isPMK]

and used in the same manner

[nickso]

Another sunny day in Glasgowshire.

[318isPMK]

mate it was brutal snowed today for about 10 mins while raining at the same time lol how my car isnt rusted through i dont know!

[e30topless]

ok so your 4k into this car already, plus the interest on your Loan and it's heading towards at least another grand on getting it running

has the bodyshell been examined ? whats behind the M tech 1 skirts ?

[nickso]

mate it was brutal snowed today for about 10 mins while raining at the same time lol how my car isnt rusted through i dont know!

Honestly not being funny at all but have you checked the usual areas for rust or do you now not dare? I would do it now as you could then put more pressure on the seller if it is indeed Swiss cheese.

Rust on a Scottish car is rarely non existent.

[318isPMK]

regardless i'm already there im fecked either way Now. if it needs more work it'll get garaged till after the wedding then i can pour all my money into it.

2.5k i thought was okay but didnt really know. 3k i thought id push to because of the apparent FBMSH and it being a show winnner I assumed wrongly I was paying a bit more to avoid these problems as I am happy to admit I dont have the first idea mechanically I just love the shape of the car.

Its a mix of bad luck and a gamble thats paid off.... Its not the end of the world when its finished ill be happy and skint

[e30topless]

and i don't want to be negative here but that is not an Engine that has been looked after or well serviced at all, the internals should be a light golden colour and not full of bronze/black sludge...

was the bottom end nice and tight no rattles etc?

[318isPMK]

didnt notice any.... mind u I only drove it for about a day

[Blitz]

In that case just explain to whoever is ordering the bits on your behalf ( assuming they are just charging you for labour and not loading the price of the bits ) that if they order from ECP you are aware of a 25% discount online for the service bits and any BMW dealer should give them at least 10% off

Beware about that 25% thing. ECP loaded their prices up online for that.

[capri_rob]

In that case just explain to whoever is ordering the bits on your behalf ( assuming they are just charging you for labour and not loading the price of the bits ) that if they order from ECP you are aware of a 25% discount online for the service bits and any BMW dealer should give them at least 10% off

Beware about that 25% thing. ECP loaded their prices up online for that.

Yes but the prices quoted a couple of pages ago are just the prices off the screen now - so 25% needs to come off then.

I would expect cecotto479 whilst running a business would not expect a fellow zoner to pay what looks like full retail price for the bits - especially at the end of a 10+ page thread that dozens of people have looked at.

Any trader regularly buying from ECP I would also expect to get more discount than a retail customer - so it should be 25% off the service parts price quoted plus any further discount that cecotto 479 can negotiate is further profit for him.

Same with the dealer bits - 10% off retail price is a given - if he gets more than that then fair enough.

And as I've already said if you deal with Matt ( Meatballs82 ) at ECP for mail order he does get the orders right

Certainly my local garage don't load the price of the parts over and above what I can get them for. I pay them for labour and if they need to buy any bits I get them to confirm the prices first - usually they are the same as or cheaper than I can buy them for.

[cecotto479]

The E30 Zone - home of dogmatic uninformed speculation.

Firstly we don't even know yet that the parts quoted are the parts needed.

I prepared the list and got the prices to give him an idea of what the likely cost could be and to give him the opportunity to say, "No, I don't want to spend that."

FWIW ECP trade prices are often no better than website prices for most stuff. It's a common complaint. There's little or no discount at the dealers on special order parts. 10% is NOT a given. Paul at Eastern has shown me his screen in the past and the discount the dealers get sometimes isn't even that.

I've told Paul (OP Paul) that the prices he will end up paying for parts will be no more than he could have got them for himself using any discounts available to him - at the same place as I'll buy them from; or he can buy them himself.

I'm simply not prepared to spend hours online or on the phone trying to save a few quid here and there - it's not cost effective for me - but at the end of the day, I accept that I'm not paying for the parts.

I've good relationships with local ECP and relatively local dealers (the Glasgow ones are all shit - I hate to say it, but Paul at Eastern in Edinburgh is the best by a mile) and I'll use them if it's OK with you lot?

Anybody who thinks I'm ripping him off can do the job provided they charge no more than I've quoted in labour.

[DanThe]

Im not complaining Boyd, you cant please everyone

[Tom_Maverick]

The E30 Zone - home of dogmatic uninformed speculation.

+1

and penniless coonts who think they should get something for nothing..




unless the item belongs to them in which case it's worth well over the odds..

[318isPMK]

I have no problem with the price or who you are using i'm just happy its in good hands and getting fixed!