Diesel 'M' Cars on the horizon!

[turk]

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default ... ryId=25018

I think this could be very interesting based on the performance of the 135d I had for a day

[bss325i]

I heard that M were playing about with tri turbo diesels a year ago. Looks like its a goer then.

[bss325i]

Oh and 135d?!

[pacerpete]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

[bss325i]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

Touche!

[Z3I]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

What does the "M" stand for on that particular model?

[beemerbird]

On that one? Misguided, I believe. HTH

[Rav335uk]

On that one? Misguided, I believe. HTH

[turk]

Oh and 135d?!

Lol, may have been a 130d ? was quick either way, traction control light was flashing every 2 mins

[glenn]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

What does the "M" stand for on that particular model?

///Marketing

[hongkongfuey]

I had use of the e90 318d m sport 2l turbo diesel , 45 mph on a run, shite, round town, but it was an auto

[Simon13]

what a load of sh!t.

[bss325i]

If you think that's bad what i found out today is even worse!

[glenn]

If you think that's bad what i found out today is even worse!

dont keep us in suspense barry

[bss325i]

Basically the penny dropped today that the new four pot turbo petrol engine used in the 116i and 118i is an N13 which is basically a tweeked N12 engine from a Mini cooper s.

A bloody peugeot/citroen engine!

[Ajsingh]

Basically the penny dropped today that the new four pot turbo petrol engine used in the 116i and 118i is an N13 which is basically a tweeked N12 engine from a Mini cooper s.

A bloody peugeot/citroen engine!

Yep! I pdi'd a 116i last week, opened the bonnet and found a mini (dam french) engine. Zaust manifold to the passenger side of the car, got to be the first iv seen on any BMW. Correct me if im wrong tho.
A little rev and it sounded ok, the turbo was pretty loud.

On the bright side, when the timing coughs up, it will be abit easier to sort as the timing chain is facing forward opposed to being down the side

Still unhappy they dropped the silky 6pot!

[Blitz]

Oh and 135d?!

Lol, may have been a 130d ? was quick either way, traction control light was flashing every 2 mins

Top model is 123d.

[bss325i]

Basically the penny dropped today that the new four pot turbo petrol engine used in the 116i and 118i is an N13 which is basically a tweeked N12 engine from a Mini cooper s.

A bloody peugeot/citroen engine!

Yep! I pdi'd a 116i last week, opened the bonnet and found a mini (dam french) engine. Zaust manifold to the passenger side of the car, got to be the first iv seen on any BMW. Correct me if im wrong tho.
A little rev and it sounded ok, the turbo was pretty loud.

On the bright side, when the timing coughs up, it will be abit easier to sort as the timing chain is facing forward opposed to being down the side

Still unhappy they dropped the silky 6pot!

TBH i've payed little attention to these new turds coming though as i don't really get involved with PDI's and AUC as we have two dedicated techs for that but i was having a nose under the bonnet of an F20 118i today and noticed the water pump friction wheel then the penny dropped.

Yes, if/when the timing chains start f*cking about like the Mini N12 engines then it will be easier due to access.

I've got an Mini N12 timing chain down to just over 3h now!

[snakebrain]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

What does the "M" stand for on that particular model?

///Marketing

Saw BMWs marketing director hinting strongly at diesel M cars in an interview not so long ago..

[bss325i]

What does the "M" stand for on that particular model?

///Marketing

Saw BMWs marketing director hinting strongly at diesel M cars in an interview not so long ago..

Last summer on a course at the BMW training academy there was talk of triple turbo diesel 5 series developed by M.

I thought nah that wouldn't happen.........

[Rodderz]

Isn't there a regular problem with those engines too?

[snakebrain]

You can already get diesel 'M' cars, I;E 320D M sport innit

What does the "M" stand for on that particular model?

///Masturbator

[Kos]

the good thing is that they will make money and they will be good cars, another positive thing is that they are still making odd ball cars like the e46 m3 CSL, e92 GTS, e90 320si, 1M coupe etc

BMW need to pay for DTM racing some how and M branding is the way to go. the people choice of car is no longer a mondeo or vectra but a bmw 3 series, the executives still want the 5's and most of the chauffeur cars i see at heathrow are new sevens ( apart from addisson lee people carriers )

if the brands going to still appeal people, they will want something a bit different hence all the M sport models, and now the M badge is going be used on dervs

while some of us do not like it , it makes sense.

bmw is 20 times the car manufacturer it was when e30's first came to the show rooms and that because they make great cars and great marketing. they need to move forward. as long as they keep making parts for the e30's who cares. i doubt that are many of us are in a position to go spend 50/60/70 large on new range topping bmw but we will happily buy them when they are cheap enough and they'll be good enough. actually they will still be very good

[Ajsingh]

Oh those techs get all the cream lol. We seem to run out of work sometimes so PDI and AUC's are whats left.

On the 116i i lifted up the plastic engine cover and was like "oh no"

[Kedge]

The diesel M cars look pretty impressive, shame about this though;

Initial reports BMW would be offering a rear-wheel-drive version of the mighty-sounding 550d appear hasty: a BMW UK source has told us that the 550d will not be appearing on the UK market in any form.

[Daryll]

The alliance between all the OEM's nowadays is more interbred than a Norfolk women's rugby team.

One of our Ford diesel engines are used in Peugeot/Citreon/VW, our 1.8L/2.0L petrol engines are used in Ford/mazda/Volvo/Jaguar/Landrover/VW and Ford now have joint programs with GM/Nissan you name it.

My mate is head of the R&D on the head unit and communications on the Porsche 918 Spyder. It's basically a Ford head unit used in Jaguars.

[irish320i]

what engine covers the psa stuff and vag ? hav nt seen that yet

[Rodderz]

http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=25083

[zaust]

When I said this a couple of years ago you all said no way. Haha. The tdi PSA engines are all made in Dagenham btw. Wait till you start getting the 1ltr 3pot 125ps petrol engine going into more makes.