How much do you think my car is worth if I were to sell?

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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:04 pm

Bearing in mind that some people think that modded cars aren't worth much more than a standard model and others think that well modded cars are worth extra cash.

I'm thinking of selling her up and getting something faster/newer/more practical. I need a touring/estate car ideally and an thinking an Audi S4 Avant. Has anyone got any other ideas for a car that fits into this criteria?

With regards to my sport, then engine has about 5k on it and the car has about 100k. I have spent over 15k on the car since I bought it about 2 years ago. The description is pretty up to date but the pictures are dated. It has Keskin KT1 9" wide polished rims, smoked hella lamps and H&R cup kit, none of which the pics show. The car also has a one off Scorpion system with slash cut tail pipes, you'll find that scorpion don't make this style tailpipe for the E30 usually! It has also had the rear arches extended to accept the 9" rims.

So guys... what do you think?

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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 8:14 pm

In my opinion, I would take of the modded parts off and sell them!! like the wheels, lights, grill and exhust.....replace them and sell the car for 3k
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:03 pm

stevetigger wrote:In my opinion, I would take of the modded parts off and sell them!! like the wheels, lights, grill and exhust.....replace them and sell the car for 3k
I would be taking most of the car off. There's barely anything un-modded on the car.
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:04 pm

yes sometimes i think from a money point of view i could get a good price for the car standard and a load more money for all the mods sold separately!

And u know i want that backbox!
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:34 pm

Adam, glad to see you're still about!

Seeing as you don't seem to be in a rush to sell, I would do as others have said, and remove easily removed parts and sell seperate, you'd end up much better off that way.

As for what you say about modified cars being worth less than standard, then yes it's true to an extent, but tasteful additions, and worthwile mods are exceptions, as is your car.
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 9:59 pm

first of all mate shame your selling. car looks a treat.

i agree with simon modded cars normally sell for around same price as standard, but tastefull mods as yours shouldnt be a problem. most people who buy an e30 would carry out the mods you have.

but saying that i would sell the wheels, exhaust and lights seperately for definate.

and audi s4 is a top choice. cant really think of anything else. but whats your budget?
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:04 pm

I assume you're talking about the 2.7 twin turbo S4? :sleep:
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:06 pm

Problem with selling modified cars is the limited number of potential buyers.
On the other hand, a real base model, poverty spec car is only going to have a limited number of potential buyers, who won't be prepared to pay much anyway.
However, if the right buyer comes along for the modded car, who sees it as just what he wants, then he may be willing to pay over the odds for it.
Otherwise, it's a matter of removing just enough to sell seperately, and leaving the car specced enough to appeal to a wide enough section of punters.
With this car, I would try it complete at what it owes you first, and see if anyone bites. You never know who's out there looking for just this car.
If it doesn't sell in a reasonable time, or you don't get any serious interest, then pull the more valuable/saleable bits off and sell them seperately.
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:21 pm

Adam,

First dibs on the Headlights :wink:

I'll even let you have mine as part of the deal. Can't say fairer than that :lol:

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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:48 pm

To be honest guys, I won't be splitting it. I just don't have the time to pull it to pieces so it will go as it is.

I'm still in 2 minds about selling it and no-one has actually answered my original question. How much do you think it's worth? If I can't get a good enough price then I'll just keep it because I'm not letting it go for pittance.

Nav; my budget is whatever I can get for the sport plus whatever my 1.0L N reg Pug 106 is worth plus a couple of grand. Just putting feelers out at the moment so see what the sport is worth, if it won't sell for much then I'd rather keep it and save the rest of the money up.
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 10:58 pm

thats tastfully modified! :mad:

shame your selling it kos thats 1 nice looking e30 thats been modified with taste.
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:01 pm

Keep it!!! fcuk practicallity :D
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:30 pm

I reckon price'd be a nice 2.7 + decent wheels + the fact it's actually a 2.8 (is that 200hp at the flywheel...?)

so i'd go for around 6k. maybe 7k to keep the inevitable uproar from zoners to a minimum!
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Post Sun Nov 13, 2005 11:31 pm

massive wrote:Keep it!!! fcuk practicallity :D
too rite mate

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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:48 am

Ho dear. I'd better never sell the Rieger then, cause from what people are saying, it will be worth around Ԛ£5k :D

Dont know much about Sports Adam, so i cant really help in the debate, but as people have already said, it's a real nice car and i luv that engine bay. Good luck and i hope you get as much. Hmmm. I wonder how much i'll get for my wheels, wxhaust, hardtop winkeye :wink:
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:43 am

I'd say that assuming you have

1-Full year's MOT
2-Full years tax
3- No "minor" Faults
4- Adverts in the correct publications and
5- A knowledgeable buyer who understands the time, effort and money invested in such a project

then i'd think that 7.5k would be roughly where you'd pitch it.

btw-remeber it was rear ended recently-was that recorded/show up on an HPI? if so It may affect price?
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:37 am

You would never get 7.5k for it IMO. Its a beauty, but cant see you getting any more than 5k to be honest.

Its worth allot more to you so i'd keep it, if not advertise it in Ireland
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:41 am

hard to value... may be a nice well sorted sport. however there are a couple of arguments to keep the price low;

- 7.5k buys a very nice E30 M3...
- 7.5k buys a very nice e36 M3 Evo
- 7.5k buys an ok e36 m3 3.0l convertible

- 3k buys a good clean phase two e30 sport
- 5k buys a very good e36 328i sport (late model)

I can't see people handing over that sort of cash TBH for a non m3 E30.

I would pitch it at about Ԛ£4.5k

I love the e30 and having owned my e36 for a year now (second 328i i might add), i seriously would never trade it in for an e30 of the same or more value unless it was an m3.

Good luck with the sale though... you might get lucky and get what you want for it..

No one has said it yet in this thread however, its only worth as much as someones willing to pay!
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 10:58 am

i think in my opinion it will sell for around the 5k mark, now if you took the wheels, exhaust, and a few other bits off it would still sell for the same money and then you can sell the bits on.

as a friend i will do you a favour and give you 2k for it :rasta:

p.s. bofore you all start slagging me off this is my opinion of what it is worth.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 11:34 am

Ive seen the car in the flesh and driven it (before MAf) and had a ride in its current state.

To just put a value down wouldnt be right without giveing an explanation of what its like in reality.

Bodywork wise its up there with the best as is the interior. What really amazed me was how tight the whole car was, even over rough surfaces there isnt a rattle or squeak even with the firm ride of the suspension. It feels like no other E30 Ive ever been in other than ian332i's car. Now thats saying something!
The engine has a fantastic torque spread and the car sounds like something out of F1 racing.

If it were a standard 325i sport this car would easily pull Ԛ£4.5k

In its current state and given what people are realistically going to pay for it Id say someone looking for a massivley modifed sport would give around Ԛ£6000 for it. This in my opinion is the top value as you then going into real E30 M3 territory and above this price you can buy some other very very serious cars (E34 M5, E36 M3 etc etc).

As a mnimum I would remove the wheels and put on standard items and make some money on top selling the wheels seperately.

I hope this answers your question to some degree.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:31 pm

Hey guys, just back from work. Thanks for all your replies.

At present it has a few minor niggles which I would sort before selling it. I would also put a years ticket on it plus some tax. I'm still waiting for a new rear bumper after the knock I had. The other guy's insurance company are playing silly buggers and it's taking ages. The bodyshop who will be carrying out the repairs will also be tidying up a couple of small blemishes that the paintwork has in with the price so it will be immaculate.

I can't really think of anything that hasn't been changed on this car. All bushes and serviceable parts have been changed hence the tight ride that Sal kindly mentions. I know what's going to happen though... I'll get the niggles fixed, get the new rear bumper on and get the car cleaned up ready to sell and I'll change my mind. :lol:

Most peoples opinions seem to be that it's worth a little more than I was expecting so that's good news. I'd want it to stay on the zone and go to someone who would be equally enthusiastic about the car as myself and who would look after it to maintaint he condition that I've worked so hard at getting it to.
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 7:44 pm

E30Adam wrote: I know what's going to happen though... I'll get the niggles fixed, get the new rear bumper on and get the car cleaned up ready to sell and I'll change my mind. :lol:
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 8:50 pm

now we've given opinions - i'm curious, how much were you expecting [us to say]?
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:18 pm

Moofles wrote:now we've given opinions - i'm curious, how much were you expecting [us to say]?
never mind that, get down the bank and get your wedge out and we can go buy it, you know you want it,
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Post Mon Nov 14, 2005 9:24 pm

haha!

i don't have enough saved up yet, i need to get more so i can really appreciate what a huge amount of cash i've just wasted when i do finally blow it winkeye
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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 6:34 pm

Moofles wrote:now we've given opinions - i'm curious, how much were you expecting [us to say]?
I thought you (the zone) would have valued it at about 4k. It's good to know that tasteful mods can do justice to a car. Most of the money has been spent on upgrading things like steering, engine, suspension etc etc. Not much has been spent cosmetically.
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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:08 pm

First of all, nice car mate.

Were you featured in this month's PBMW? If you offered me that car with standard rims, I would have paid Ԛ£5.5k :) Just out of interest, how much for the respray?

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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:16 pm

DieselMeister wrote:First of all, nice car mate.

Were you featured in this month's PBMW? If you offered me that car with standard rims, I would have paid Ԛ£5.5k :) Just out of interest, how much for the respray?

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Post Wed Nov 16, 2005 7:27 pm

I noticed that it was a silver one (rather than Delphin) as soon as I'd posted. Still, the offer would have stood if I hadn't just bought one :-)
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Post Fri Nov 18, 2005 7:18 pm

the only thing which will put off anyone could possibly be the wheels, as you said hardly any cosmetic mods, its worth posibly as much as a ginunie alpina to some people?!
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Post Sat Nov 19, 2005 9:37 am

E30Adam wrote: I thought you (the zone) would have valued it at about 4k. It's good to know that tasteful mods can do justice to a car. Most of the money has been spent on upgrading things like steering, engine, suspension etc etc. Not much has been spent cosmetically.
Nah mate, more than 4k ffs. I like my e30s pretty standard, but even i appricite the time thats gone into yours. 100k sports in minty nic will do 4.5-5k, depending on time of year. 2.7's of the same ilk will do slightly more (or seem to) pitch it at Ԛ£5.8k with reasonable offers seriously considered and you may get someone call up and take it off you within a week.

IF you sell it, the S4 (or even better, the RS6) is a damn good car. Ive got a mate with one thats been modded/mapped/h&r'd etc down here in west wales. cars minter and i think he could be parted from it if you waved some cash. The guys name is Phil and has dealt with Ste Nelson i believe (or was it Ridi? i dont remember) and Simon know him/knows of him too. Bloody top guy IMHO. If you get to the stage of wanting to buy something like the car he's got, PM me and i'll get the full D/L on his car for you.

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Post Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:30 pm

Cheers for all your comments guys. I will be getting the car up to scratch and then putting it up for sale in the coming months. It's a sad time because I've never spent so much time or money on anything else before.

I have however found the car that I would like to replace it with. I was first looking at the S4 Avant but didn't think that it's 270bhp for a 2.7 twin turbo V6 lump was a great deal.

I think looked at RS4's and RS6's as Scott suggested but I don't want to spend that sort of money on a car at the moment due to trying to buy a house.

My brother works for an Audi garage and drew my attention to a car that I'd not heard of before. It's retro, not as retro as the E30 though. It's German, it's got plenty of space in it and it's powerful. It's the Audi RS2!

It comes as stock with 315bhp, 302lb/ft torque, top speed of 163mph and will do 0-60 in an astonishing 4.8 seconds. 0-30 is said to be 1.5 seconds which is identical to that of the MacLaren F1! Mental!

All I've got to do now is sell my car and find a nice one. Trouble is, they're similar to the M3 which is most are LHD and good ones are hard to find!
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Post Sat Nov 19, 2005 12:35 pm

E30Adam wrote:
My brother works for an Audi garage and drew my attention to a car that I'd not heard of before. It's retro, not as retro as the E30 though. It's German, it's got plenty of space in it and it's powerful. It's the Audi RS2!

It comes as stock with 315bhp, 302lb/ft torque, top speed of 163mph and will do 0-60 in an astonishing 4.8 seconds. 0-30 is said to be 1.5 seconds which is identical to that of the MacLaren F1! Mental!

All I've got to do now is sell my car and find a nice one. Trouble is, they're similar to the M3 which is most are LHD and good ones are hard to find!
:lol: at Scott with an RS6, have you seen how much they go for!?

Even the RS2's are holding they're money really well, great cars, limited choice of colours though, and like you say, most are LHD.
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Post Sat Nov 19, 2005 1:42 pm

LOL. YES MATE, I KNOW HOW MUCH THEY GO FOR...... WE CAN ALL DREAM THO CANT WE.

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