are e30s getting more valuable ?

[nm1]

thats what i call a bargain lol

[pony]

Isn't the 325i Sport considered a special model that will hold value?

splastic kits are no good for e30's unless you own a real garage Gem.

What do you consider a garage gem?

I wonder how many 1-3 owner 325i Sports there are left in this country with zero rust, FBMWSH, genuine low mileage, totally original??? - i guess it has to be under 20?

Mine has no rust either just the engine bay and odd bits need tidying up, all credit to the original owner who I bought the car off kept it garaged since new and yes I am keeping her a spoilt garage queen!

How many owners and miles is your one?

Based on the sales over recent months on E30s - i dont think they are rising - about static. There are still lots of E30s about maybe even some of low owners but of the less desirable models e.g. 315i, 318i,320i. Though they not aqll in good condition.

Prices should rise in long term but only for ther really really good ones. Mind you 6 Series an d E30 M3s prcies been rising for a while or are starting to rise.

[pony]

The wierd thing is E30s prices i remember in 2006 they were 2.5-5k. Now they are about that but with inflation increased the real value of the car is less. In other words taking including inflation the E30 car is worth less.

The thing to note is the BMW E46 330Ci Coupe (SE/Sport) which is a very good/capable car - can now be had i believe for not much these days. This is better than the E30 in every way with though looks/dash design i believe the E30 does better but the build quality of E46 i think is better. However, a 330Ci a good one is a far better car and less likely to give you problems and far younger yet it is strange how E30 prices are just the way they are from a logical viewpoint devoid of emotional attachment to a E30 model.

Car prices on the whole do not always make sense i mean i read E60 M5s are about 15k. Would you rather have three so called "its mint man" Sports for 5k each or one E60 M5?

[gnarkillius]

One car I wish I bought and garaged about 5 years ago would be an M spec 635csi. An 80s or early 90s one.

Good ones were going for peanuts before I stated university (to the extent I did nearly buy one).

They must have doubled in price for a good one since then.

[pony]

Good M635CSi's had been about £10k in 2001 i recall?

[lion_yo]

splastic kits are no good for e30's unless you own a real garage Gem.

What do you consider a garage gem?

I wonder how many 1-3 owner 325i Sports there are left in this country with zero rust, FBMWSH, genuine low mileage, totally original??? - i guess it has to be under 20?

Mine has no rust either just the engine bay and odd bits need tidying up, all credit to the original owner who I bought the car off kept it garaged since new and yes I am keeping her a spoilt garage queen!

How many owners and miles is your one?

Based on the sales over recent months on E30s - i dont think they are rising - about static. There are still lots of E30s about maybe even some of low owners but of the less desirable models e.g. 315i, 318i,320i. Though they not aqll in good condition.

Prices should rise in long term but only for ther really really good ones. Mind you 6 Series an d E30 M3s prcies been rising for a while or are starting to rise.

I am the second owner and she has around 90k!

[pac1982]

Bit of a silly question if you ask me, the answer is yes they are even shit boxes still sell for more than scrap value as magpie found out recently.

Any car 20+ years old with a cult following is going to go up in value simple as, if you have a mint example of an E30 and some where to store it then you have a good investment on your hands

Its my view that in another 5-10 years any good condition E30 will fetch the same sort of money as mk1 escorts

[gnarkillius]

Yeah, my age making time compress

Call it 2000, 10 years ago. you could get them for 6k, maybe not showroom standard, but decent.

I jsut had a look about on the web and you can still get them for that, but a proper restored and maintained one is 10 to 15.

To be honest I would still take that over a new Ford Focus or something, so I suppose its not actually that expensive, inflation and all that.

[gnarkillius]

Bit of a silly question if you ask me, the answer is yes they are even shit boxes still sell for more than scrap value as magpie found out recently.

Any car 20+ years old with a cult following is going to go up in value simple as, if you have a mint example of an E30 and some where to store it then you have a good investment on your hands

Its my view that in another 5-10 years any good condition E30 will fetch the same sort of money as mk1 escorts

One case in point. Original Minis. Same sort of money as an E30 of certain spec, and although I will always love the Mini, you cant tell me you get more for your money!

Same as the antiques trade, anything is worth what someone will pay, its the bottom line.

[suchy]

The wierd thing is E30s prices i remember in 2006 they were 2.5-5k. Now they are about that but with inflation increased the real value of the car is less. In other words taking including inflation the E30 car is worth less.

Yes 6yrs ago £2.5-5k would have bought you a tidy- v.tidy Sport, probably those in the £4-7k range now. One can still pick up a £2.5k Sport now but it won't be great!

[suchy]

The thing to note is the BMW E46 330Ci Coupe (SE/Sport) which is a very good/capable car - can now be had i believe for not much these days. This is better than the E30 in every way with though looks/dash design i believe the E30 does better but the build quality of E46 i think is better. However, a 330Ci a good one is a far better car and less likely to give you problems and far younger yet it is strange how E30 prices are just the way they are from a logical viewpoint devoid of emotional attachment to a E30 model.

One of my friends has just picked up an Imola Red E46 330i with all the sport bits (only thing it doesn't have is heated seats) and all boxes ticked... paid £3k for it!! Whole lot of car for that ££ and a far better prospect for every day use.

[lion_yo]

The thing to note is the BMW E46 330Ci Coupe (SE/Sport) which is a very good/capable car - can now be had i believe for not much these days. This is better than the E30 in every way with though looks/dash design i believe the E30 does better but the build quality of E46 i think is better. However, a 330Ci a good one is a far better car and less likely to give you problems and far younger yet it is strange how E30 prices are just the way they are from a logical viewpoint devoid of emotional attachment to a E30 model.

One of my friends has just picked up an Imola Red E46 330i with all the sport bits (only thing it doesn't have is heated seats) and all boxes ticked... paid £3k for it!! Whole lot of car for that ££ and a far better prospect for every day use.

The E30 was the first proper 3 series built look at the E30 M3 for instance its just rising in value and appearing in many magazine's just to be praised for what it is, for crying out load it is the car responsible for keeping the M3 alive.

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK and the 325i Sport was the top specification model to purchase thus will be desirable amongst E30 enthusiasts. Put in a simple form E30 lovers will buy an M3 if they want a proper BMW sports classic and those who don't want to have a LHD M3 will buy the next best thing the 325i sport

I rest my case...

[BEERBOY123]

Although I'm stating the bleedin' obvious here, it all comes down to supply and demand (scarcity). E30 supply will be determined by the ever decreasing numbers of cars (due to age, scrappage, rust, fragging, crashes, uneconomic repairs, UK climate and the rest of it); demand comes down to fashion mainly (the MK1 Escort factor), inflation, lower disposable incomes and so on.

Where demand would be high in a booming economy, in the current 'climate' demand is bound to be lower. Fashion, i.e. 80s retro nostalgia, RWD, the M3 profile etc. all help, but like other posters on here, I don't think 'values', in real terms, will go up with any significance for about another 5 years. By then scarcity will be a real factor, and I think most of the survivors will be good/very good+ condition-wise. If the economy has picked up by then, punters will have more cash to splash out on nostalgia. But even then only the truly original, unmolested cars will be worth anything.

Imho...

[bss325i]

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK...

The M3 was available through UK dealers and in fact there was a UK only special edition that was the Roberto Ravaglia.

[lion_yo]

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK...

The M3 was available through UK dealers and in fact there was a UK only special edition that was the Roberto Ravaglia.

But I'm pretty sure the weren't built in RHD?

[Kedge]

Prices are always going to creap up and supply decreases. However is demand likely to increase much?

Also, while there is no where near the volume of cars being broken as a few years ago i've certainly found that whereas i could pretty much sell every last little bit off a car pretty quickly maybe just 3 years ago, now i'm struggling to shift things like ECUs, wiper motors, central locking modules etc etc. I put that down to the fact there are less people running these cars so and so less demand. I fell that all these people building up huge treasure chests expecting prices of things to sky rocket might be left storing a lot of frag as by the time all the shitters are gone the cars left will be the ones that already have the nice morsels, are well maintained and are owned by people who already have got good stock of spares.

No one will be getting rich from these things, just buy to enjoy it for the now not to hope you make a healthy profit when you come to sell.

The E30 was the first proper 3 series

Wrong, that was the E21.

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK

Also wrong, the E30 M3 was available from any UK dealer.

[lion_yo]

Prices are always going to creap up and supply decreases. However is demand likely to increase much?

Also, while there is no where near the volume of cars being broken as a few years ago i've certainly found that whereas i could pretty much sell every last little bit off a car pretty quickly maybe just 3 years ago, now i'm struggling to shift things like ECUs, wiper motors, central locking modules etc etc. I put that down to the fact there are less people running these cars so and so less demand. I fell that all these people building up huge treasure chests expecting prices of things to sky rocket might be left storing a lot of frag as by the time all the shitters are gone the cars left will be the ones that already have the nice morsels, are well maintained and are owned by people who already have got good stock of spares.

No one will be getting rich from these things, just buy to enjoy it for the now not to hope you make a healthy profit when you come to sell.

The E30 was the first proper 3 series

Wrong, that was the E21.

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK

Also wrong, the E30 M3 was available from any UK dealer.

In my eyes the E30 was the first proper 3 series as it was the first 3 series to make the M3 be born.

Also I thought you could get the E30 M3 in the UK but not in RHD didn't know you could request that from the dealership...any chance you could post a link where I could read up on this?

[Kedge]

You couldn't get the M3 in RHD, no has said you can. You stated you couldn't get the M3 in the UK and a couple of us have corrected you on this.

[bss325i]

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK...

The M3 was available through UK dealers and in fact there was a UK only special edition that was the Roberto Ravaglia.

But I'm pretty sure the weren't built in RHD?

No, no factory RHD cars but you could still buy a LHD E30 M3 through UK BMW dealers.

[lion_yo]

You couldn't get the M3 in RHD, no has said you can. You stated you couldn't get the M3 in the UK and a couple of us have corrected you on this.

I thought you guys were saying they were available in the UK through the dealerships i.e. in RHD

[bss325i]

No one will be getting rich from these things, just buy to enjoy it for the now not to hope you make a healthy profit when you come to sell.

THIS!

Also I thought you could get the E30 M3 in the UK but not in RHD didn't know you could request that from the dealership...any chance you could post a link where I could read up on this?

There is no where i know of to read up on what was available through UK BMW dealers.

I know of a few original UK E30 M3's.

[bss325i]

You could also buy the LHD only 325iX through UK dealers but they are rare.

[BEERBOY123]

Get over it!!!

Not what the OP was trying to establish I would suggest.

The question related to the values of E30s in general, not the yawning anorak Top Trumps of which style of cigarette lighter came as standard with a bloody M3!

[bss325i]

Get over it!!!

Not what the OP was trying to establish I would suggest.

The question related to the values of E30s in general, not the yawning anorak Top Trumps of which style of cigarette lighter came as standard with a bloody M3!

Jog the f*ck on iS freak!

[Simon13]

so if you don't have a low owner milege cream pie then drive on and enjoy. You won't lose money on it

[ANDY325TOURING]

So whats my Alpina worth then?

[kolee]

So whats my Alpina worth then?

my left nut?

[Topblag]

So whats my Alpina worth then?

Keeping.

[lukescott]

I'm sure you lot are much better qualified to comment on the UK market than I am, but I can assure you that E30 prices are definately on the rise here in Germany.

Anders is bang on the button here. I have been watching the prices of mint 318 convertibles like mine in Germany and they are making €10 to €12k euro for garage queens like mine.

[H35-IAN]

right guys im sorry it took so long for me to reply lol ive been otherwised engaged with forza

ok then so i agree with si and a few others than good milage , good history genuine mint cars not cars that have been thrown together and bodged up . are worth good money. ie sport , m3s , hartges , alpinas so on.

and obviously your average e30 same with your average e36 are just priced as everyday prices. ie your 318i , 320i , 316i etc etc.

im not saying im correct but i have a good idea , ive got a hartge h35 e30 for those of you who dont know and ive actually had the car 7 years its been dry stored and ive totally rebuilt it now the moral of the story is it all started over a piece of tissue!! the car never needed all the things ive done to it but i was over the top and anal it now owes me lots n lots of money and in good time not to long itll be on the road however with now being 30 and wanting to buy a house or emergrate i will be forced to sell it the history i have is trully amazing , the cars not even done 50k lol it was hartges press car and once owned by rolf micheal hartge a director of hartge de for 7 yrs he had it, theres so much i could say but ive said enuff lol but i am struggling to value the car as its a h35 with everything and its as it was when it left the factory. ive searched for 7 yrs and the closest i found is h27s hardly any , a h35-24 and h36 theyre all ive never ever seen another h35 .

what would u do and im asking genuinly ?

[kieran325]

I'd keep it if you could, might be a struggle but long term you'll be on winner.

If you do sell, PM me a price.

[LavradorE30]

Well in Portugal we have a limited edition is the 320is ( its like the M3 but with 2.0 liter engine 192 hp was only sold in Portugal and Italy with 2 or 4 doors ) the car´s value is between £6 /£ 8 700







We don´t have the 325i sport. The most E30 are imported from other countries ( Germany , South Africa , France , Swiss ...)

[pony]

The M3 wasn't available to buy in the UK...

The M3 was available through UK dealers and in fact there was a UK only special edition that was the Roberto Ravaglia.

But I'm pretty sure the weren't built in RHD?

As said the BMW E30 M3 was availalble officially in the UK. I think very vast majority are LHD a tiny few RHD though i am not sure e.g. BMW Japan version.

Does E30 325i Sport have a bigger cult following than E36 328i Sport or E46 330Ci Coupe Sport?

By the way Lion_yo you bastard nice car

[lion_yo]

The M3 was available through UK dealers and in fact there was a UK only special edition that was the Roberto Ravaglia.

But I'm pretty sure the weren't built in RHD?

As said the BMW E30 M3 was availalble officially in the UK. I think very vast majority are LHD a tiny few RHD though i am not sure e.g. BMW Japan version.

Does E30 325i Sport have a bigger cult following than E36 328i Sport or E46 330Ci Coupe Sport?

By the way Lion_yo you bastard nice car

Thanks but mind the language son

[bss325i]

Does E30 325i Sport have a bigger cult following than E36 328i Sport or E46 330Ci Coupe Sport?

The E46 330Ci has NO cult following. Far to common and no where near as desirable when new like the E30 325i Sport was.

E36 328i Sport on the other had has a following and are rarer than E36 M3's.