Discovery vs Range Rover ?

[polsta]

Need a bit of advice please

Had my land rover discovery since december, costs me £200 to insure, its never let me down and sits there un used waiting for the call, mot and tax ,re insure etc in december

its a 1997 discovery ES in silver 300tdi (2.5 diesel engine) , it really has been great and nothings broke etc and ive looked after it and its great to load up with stuff when needed and camping etc

a mate of mine wants to buy it, and it will leave me breaking even on it owning for the year, which would be good,but i really really like the look of range rovers, a classic vogue, or a p38 maybe, really want one in dark green or a dark color, would want a same 2.5 diesel one , although ive never driven one, but looove the look of them

so - do i sell the disco and have just over 2k in the pocket towards a range rover, and either look for one for around 1.5-2.5k for a classic, IF i can find a suitable one, or put a bit more towards and buy a p38, and maybe risk trading in a rock solid reliable disco, or do i keep the disco

also anyone got any idea what would be better on fuel ?

or- do i maybe look for a smaller cheaper to run 4x4 of some sort ?

not sure what to do, hes got the money for it in cash ready to buy my disco, so got to let him know

[maf260]

Range Rover = money pit, especially the P38. The 2.5s are asthmatic in a bigger, heavier bodyshell so will cost more to run. Probably a higher insurance band and at that sort of cash it's not going to be a great example.

My advice would be to stick with what you've got unless you have a burning desire to waste money.

[e30topless]

serve the disco at 2k it would be rude not to !

the P38 is a nice thing but not many good one's out there the diesel is a turd, try get an LPG converted version with the upgraded springs/shocks the airbags are expensive to repair and often fail !

[polsta]

serve the disco at 2k it would be rude not to !

the P38 is a nice thing but not many good one's out there the diesel is a turd, try get an LPG converted version with the upgraded springs/shocks the airbags are expensive to repair and often fail !

you mean sell it ?

thing is- i dont want a money pit, i just love the range rover looks, mate up the road who owns a garage has bought a dark green range rover classic vogue, full leather etc, its mint looking, looks the absoloute business !! id rather a nice classic vogue over a p38 due to the risks and potential electrical problems etc, its just finding a nice un abused classic is that easy

the disco- i paid £1900 for it+200 to insure, had a good years driving out of it, spent a cple of hundred on bits, hes offering me £2100 cash

i know il want one in the winter,il need one for work etc, so i can either keep the disco, or get 2100 and i can put a grand or so in no worries on top- but then i think do i really want to spend 3k on a 4x4 il only use in the winter and then not much the rest of the year, like a p38- im not so sure, my disco is a 1997 es- full leather, big heated electric leather seats etc, its all round nice condition and never let me down , although after owning one id like a nice dark color, although in the winter the silver is the best color in snow and ice etc, and its capable off road and good to load up, this summer a few times ive loaded it up with 3 mates and all our camping gear and gone to work at festivals etc and had a right old laugh and its been faultless

but- i do see range rover classics n think id love one of those...

[Felix79]

Sell the disco and use the money on the sport?

[Morat]

Sell the disco, buy an lpg converted Jeep Cherokee XJ 4.0. All the toys of the range rover, more power and superb reliability. Plus it is as simple to work on as an e30.
Get the original 4x4

[polsta]

i dont need the money for the sport dan, the sports all sorted and only small things need doing really, plus got the cash from my is sat there, sports going in the garage nov-march, and want a 4x4 for winter

dont think id get cheap insurance on a 4.0 cherokee morat, plus they are quite big

a 2.5 petrol /lpg one just up the road, what sort of ££ is it worth ? might go for a look and a test drive maybe n see what i think, although think id much prefer a range rover or to just keep the disco

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-JEEP-CHE ... 27bd39ce27

a few 2.5 tdi ones for 1500-2500 range

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JEEP-Cherokee ... 588f128ad7

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jeep-Cherokee ... 519a0bdcb5

[B7]

I've got a lovely Discovery 3 here if your interested? It's a bit more than £2k though

[Morat]

A cherokee is no bigger than a Range Rover, and I can't see there being much difference in insurance either. Don't bother with the 2.5 or the diesel. The 4.0 Ltd is the pick of the litter because it has the big unstressed straight six and the bulletproof AW4 transmission. With regular oilchanges these babies will outlast even an M20. Then it's just a matter of checking all the electrics and the floor/arches for rust (as with any old turd these days).

[polsta]

ok thanks morat, migt go look at one, although it was really the range rover look , and just swapping my disco for one , which was on the mind, my disco is rock solid, cheap to insure etc,so id probably keep that if a range rover was a no go, not much point jkust swapping it for soemthing for the sake of it, but might look in to it, the seller of that green 2.5/lpg one messaged back, hes looing for 1200 - might take 900-1000 cash to get rid, would mean a grand in my pocket, and cheaper type soloution, would a 2.5 petrol be cheap to run with lpg ? not too fussed about performance as its a 4x4 i just cruise along

[Morat]

It should be pretty cheap on fuel, but the only engine choice in the US was the 4.0 so that's where the support/info is on the US forums.
This has just been relisted http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-Jeep-Che ... 3a6666cc74 It could be a shed, but it might be ideal. You just never know at the end of the market do you!

Overall though, I think you're right. If you like the Disco and it's solid then it's better the devil you know.

[m8782538]

I know what you mean about the Range Rovers, love the old ones, but it means a 3.5 petrol and an LPG conversion within the 2k budget, plus the old Rangie will probably need a few things doing too.

[Morat]

Google Top Hat Liners before you get misty eyed about the Rover V8

[polsta]

It should be pretty cheap on fuel, but the only engine choice in the US was the 4.0 so that's where the support/info is on the US forums.
This has just been relisted http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1995-Jeep-Che ... 3a6666cc74 It could be a shed, but it might be ideal. You just never know at the end of the market do you!

Overall though, I think you're right. If you like the Disco and it's solid then it's better the devil you know.

what always gets me- when looking on ebay for things like this, why so many of the "dealers" on there with garages, have 0 feedback and a new seller, rather than built up some feedback, always wary that they make up new accounts for cars to hide things etc, i know sellers have to start witth 0, but so many cars advertised by garages with 0 feedback looks a bit suss to me

but i think id rather keep the disco than just getting another 4x4 i dont particularly want

I know what you mean about the Range Rovers, love the old ones, but it means a 3.5 petrol and an LPG conversion within the 2k budget, plus the old Rangie will probably need a few things doing too.

why not a 2.5 diesel ? ,cheaper to insure and solid engines, its a 4x4 and want for rugged winter use and not for any performance/speed engine wise

[polsta]

whats the views on ones like these...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Range-Rover-D ... 2a12f692bc

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Ra ... 3cb934b1f6

this one 2500 local, not sure if its still for sale tho, might ring n ask n go see it to just see it and have a drive, mot may 2012,and a dealer so will have warranty, talking a ton or 2 plus my disco ? just really like the look of range rovers, would rather green mind but the blue isnt bad

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1997-P-Land-R ... 5ae1b83799

[polsta]

sold the discovery today, shes gone, we had fun !

but tax, mot, new insurance, - all expense comming up so best to break even now on it and have the ££ in the bank

2 months say to find me a new 4x4 !!!

[cecotto479]

Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 on LPG. I'm on my third. Fabulous. Unbeatable value for money.

[polsta]

Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 on LPG. I'm on my third. Fabulous. Unbeatable value for money.

im not sure il get insured on it for the sort of money i can a 2.5 diesel (be £200 or less for a year) , thats the thing, i dont want to pay £5/600 a year insurance or maybe more for a 4.8, as only had my licence 2.5 years, but il get a quote out of interest, saw one earlier looked smart, although newish

how big is the lpg tank on your ones and what sort of cost to fill it, and how many miles from it ? and mpg ?

and what sort of mpg if its running on petrol ?

id be open to an lpg if i can and it ment great fuel savings, as my work is now double the distance 4 or 5 nights a week 50 miles round trip a time, and 2 trips of 20 mile round trip, so need to bear that in mind

sport goes in the garage end of october when tax runs out, until spring when the ice and grit are gone

[polsta]

what are the 2.5 diesel ones like if insurance cost was a factor

one like this, is local

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1999-T-JEEP-G ... 4aadb98c5c

this one 2k from a grage, with 12 months mot, think i prefer the square looking ones

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JEEP-Cherokee ... 588f128ad7

but i do prefer range rover looks

going to view this tomorrow as its local and just to set a benchmark and have a drive in one, and insurance company said i can just change it over for a 2.5 diesel and pay £20

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0660764455

this one looks alright too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0724705216

[Blitz]

2.5 diesel are slugs. And remember Range Rovers use old M51 BMW engine which is notorious for injector pumps failing.

[pacerpete]

Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 on LPG. I'm on my third. Fabulous. Unbeatable value for money.

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I am waiting for comfirmation on whether my bid has been accepted on an 03 plate 4.7 with prinz LPG. It is fully fruited and has only done 70000 miles but has a few minor issues , hence my £1500 bid

Why anybody except a masochist would want a P38 is beyond me, they make a discovery look like a good idea !

[polsta]

2.5 diesel are slugs. And remember Range Rovers use old M51 BMW engine which is notorious for injector pumps failing.

im not fussed about any kind of speed/performance, its for winter use only to get me about/to work in snow and ice etc, then rest of year for occasional use when needed thats it

so with the injector pump...when buiying would it be a case of ONLY buying one when the pump has been replaced ? what if it hasnt but looks and drives nice etc ? and how much ££ is it to fix if it goes ?

[polsta]

Grand Cherokee 4.7 V8 on LPG. I'm on my third. Fabulous. Unbeatable value for money.

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I am waiting for comfirmation on whether my bid has been accepted on an 03 plate 4.7 with prinz LPG. It is fully fruited and has only done 70000 miles but has a few minor issues , hence my £1500 bid

Why anybody except a masochist would want a P38 is beyond me, they make a discovery look like a good idea !

im going to try insurance quotes today for a jeep

but to be fair..when i was looking at my disco, people on here were all for jeep and jap ones,and said dont buy a disco this that that etc...i got one and it served me brilliantly and never let me down, was great fun,and we had good times, this summer loaded it up a few times and drove to festivals with 4 lads and loads of camping gear to work, and it was super all last winter in the snow

lad i work with had a p38 him and his mrs for 3 years, said it was super, i know some if you get electrical probs can be iffy, im not sure il buy one, but i have 2 months to sort something out

this one messaged me back- said he can talk 2k cash if off ebay, plus id get dealer warranty
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

and the 1st one in the links above thats local, said he can move on price for cash , its in for an mot this morning and to ring later today and go look and hjel give me the mot report

if it passes with a full year and if its got tax ,il go see it, but also want to go view a jeep and sit in and drive one, but i cant help love the range rover look

[polsta]

lpg jeep are al far away

this the only close one, what sort of price do you think?

2.5 petrol LPG , so wont be too guzzly and might be cheaper to insure, and what sort of ££/milage could i expect ? they say a full year mot and tax , ive asked for confirmation of that and a price in mind, as not sure reading it of they mean just a year mot and no tax, looks alright if its cheap enough ?

also if i go to view one, what do i look for in a jeep and lpg to make sure it all ok ? any specific things to check on a jeep ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 0678406695

[E30BeemerLad]

If you just need a basic 4wd turd to get around when there is snow on the ground etc, why bother with a big old turd like a Range Rover, Disco etc etc. Just get something like a Suzuki SJ or Jinmy thing as they are cheap to buy and cheap on fuel & insurance etc.

[polsta]

pondered it n had a little look, half decent ones are still 1500/2k , shitters for 500-1k mark , probably a bit too small, i like the occasional use space to load up, and come next summer al the festival work etc the space is handy, dont really want to fork out 1.5-2k for something i dont particularly want or like the look of you know

the green 2.5 jeep lpg above, hes messaged back saying 1050 is the reserve, if it doesnt get bid past hel take a grand cash , that would leave me 1100 in the pocket from the disco

he said 50l tank, gets around 250 motorway miles, or 200 round town , would that cbe cheap 4x4 motoring compared with a diesel 2.5 ?

[polsta]

going to look at these tomorrow, one after the other , jsut to get a feel of each one and what i like the look and feel of best, and as they are local just to set a benchmark

2.5 rangerover dse, passed an mot this afternoon with no advisories and he said no known faults

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

and the 2.5 lpg jeep, £1000 hes looking for, but only owned it 2 months, said hes leaving the country, very much dbout il buy it, just want to sit in and have a drive and see what it feels like


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

this green one, i like the look off, garage so get warranty to cover any drive away then major break,damages, long mot and low milage and looks alright, they said theyd take 2k in cash for a quick sale it came in apx

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... TQ:GB:1123

[rh306]

...forget the yank scrap with cup holders, get yourself a G-Wagen

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[polsta]

...forget the yank scrap with cup holders, get yourself a G-Wagen

as fook, look superb

but none on ebay, how nice does this look, they sound expensive

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-G-Wa ... 4cf8d49bea

[rh306]

...they do drop below £5K:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-Reg-Mercede ... 1328wt_937

..newer AMGs seem to go up into the £80s and £90s though

[polsta]

...they do drop below £5K:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G-Reg-Mercede ... 1328wt_937

..newer AMGs seem to go up into the £80s and £90s though

not sure i like the 2 door, 4 door in the greys/blacks/silvers look much nicer

[polsta]

went for a look at the blue rangey today, walked away, but only intended as a benchmark and to get a feel for them

paint work wasnt brilliant ,interior a bit grubby but ok, that rear ding meant new indicator and quater panel needed painting ideally, slight rust in the ding, lower tailgate ideally needed painting and the bumper had been re painted and not great, bit of rust on the chassis,right near the sea and salty sea air, suspect beach/sailing use, as he had sailing club stuff on his house, but no holes just a lot of flakey and general quite a lot of corrosion underneath, tyres ok not great needed a new one, slow starting, drove ok air suspension worked nice, slight creek when turning left on the wheel, alarm key fob not great seemed a bit iffy, but full mot yesterday no advisories, just felt like it not been overly cared for and looked after and maintained best it could

wanted £2500 cash or around that

walked away, but nice to see one all the same, quite like em , felt bigger than i was expecting, not quite as goood off road feel to it as the disco or bigger inside or the boot etc, but i like em, will keep looking but want one nicer than that for the money

[Morat]

If you just need a basic 4wd turd to get around when there is snow on the ground etc, why bother with a big old turd like a Range Rover, Disco etc etc. Just get something like a Suzuki SJ or Jinmy thing as they are cheap to buy and cheap on fuel & insurance etc.

They're hilarious little things, I love what the "Sammy" crowd do with them in the states

[polsta]

i think if the standard of range rovers are like that for 2.5k then a sub £1k cheap 4x4 will be better

gonna go look at the 2.5 lpg cherokee tomorrow, although sayng hes onyl owned it 2 months rings slight alarm bells

[schnaarf]

grand cherokee was in front of me today... if you watch the car body it seems to shake side to side like most american cars. Been in a few as well and always thought them to feel very loose and bouncy.

I'd go for a 4.6 p38 range and spend money on a good one. Fuel can't be an issue if you aren't going to use it much? Or a very good classic