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Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:42 pm

cecotto479 wrote:No. It's from my recollection from 15 years as a solicitor. Some time ago certainly.

It's binding.

Whether you can prove it, and therefore enforce it, or not is a different issue. But to say, "I'm a lawyer. Verbal contracts aren't legally binding." is just bollocks and frankly makes you look a bit foolish. If you said, "Verbal contracts are binding but very difficult to prove", fair enough, but to declare your qualification at the outset and follow it by making the classic pub lawyer statement is just hilarious.

Most lawyers I know also take a bit of pride in their punctuation, grammar and spelling.

That's why I asked the question. Maybe knowing the law and being able to construct a sentence is no longer a prerequisite for a career in the legal profession.
1,you cant enter a verbal contract on property you should know that.
2,its not "No. It's from my recollection from 15 years as a solicitor"
its; No. It's from my recollection as a solicitor for 15 years" if you want to get pedantic.

this is a car forum i like to step away from the grammar from time to time, i'd sound like a politician otherwise.

if your a down right penis who like to take things literally then so be it but verbal contract dont exist in the eyes of the law in reality because you cant prove it if you read the law book you might find it written they can be binding, but you still can be hanged for killing a swan in that same book but it wouldnt happen
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Finally the pictures arrive and lo and behold, the vin plate does look bent like a banana, exactly what Atta said. I think there is a huge question mark over the rivets as well, especially the one on the right. If i saw the Vin plate in that condition, and there was no V5 i wouldnt be pleased to say the least.

I didnt realise you were in Birmingham however needless to say, i wont be coming to look at your car. GLWTS, i think you will need it.
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how the hell does that "look bent like a banana" ??? some of your posts on here mobster just seem to be done to bait people IMO..... first Jim and now golfman... even if it was bent and the riivet leaves a "huge question mark" you aren't easily going to be able to forge the vin pressed under the scuttle panel.... just take a walk and stop trying to cause trouble.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:27 pm

mobster wrote:Finally the pictures arrive and lo and behold, the vin plate does look bent like a banana,
it's aluminium and chances are after being on the road for 25 years it's seen a front panel and a couple of rivetts, the scuttle is reading the same vin so whats the problem ?
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:28 pm

If he was that worried about it why would he still want the car? I dont see anything wrong with it, the car is 23 years old and matches the vin number under the window. So because at some point in it's history its been bent, it means it's been messed with? It's not loose at all. Another thing ''mobster'', did I invite you to look at the car? You sound like quite the idiot to be honest. The car has been at bmw and the technician read the vin number himself to print the build sheet. As I said, the v5 is on it's way. A hpi check also confirms the car is clean, but i'm sure you know better! Either way, if I do sell it, someones getting a bargain.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:29 pm

Scuttle one looks fine
If the one on the front panel is bent like that id assume the panel has been replaced and riveted back on ?
Its hardly bent like a banana either , Oh and the numbers match
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:33 pm

the age of the rivets is most important.

you don't get brand new ones on a 20 + year old car.

what was ata's offer btw now we know the price it was up for ?
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:35 pm

No i agree its not bent like a banana, however i was using Atta's description, however if i saw the VIN plate in that condition, i would need to check it against the V5. Again, no V5 to check the numbers against then no sale. Once bitten, twice shy.

Over and out from me.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:36 pm

He wouldnt make an offer, he said whats the lowest i'd take. I said I'd take £775 as I love the car, know its a tech 1 despite what he was saying and its worth more in parts, he said that he wasnt happy with that then went straight to demanding his deposit back. He knew I wasnt open to offers and because I wouldnt budge on the price, wanted his deposit back.
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mobster wrote:No i agree its not bent like a banana, however i was using Atta's description, however if i saw the VIN plate in that condition, i would need to check it against the V5. Again, no V5 to check the numbers against then no sale. Once bitten, twice shy.

Over and out from me.


and goodnitey

if i were in the market i'd buy it.

no loose situations appeal to me.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:38 pm

So would you agree that once I have the v5 and the vin numbers all match, that your posts have been pointless mobster? I dont know enough about cars to know whether the rivets look 20 years old but whether they are new or not, its the right vin plate?
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mobster wrote:...how did he check the VIN number against the V5 if it is not present... why would anyone buy a car without a V5...why would you even consider selling a car without a V5. , the owner did not have the V5 ...
I'm sorry, but No V5 then no sale ...wanting to see the V5
Enough! We get the point, you're kinky for V5's, calm down.
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Ranchero wrote:
mobster wrote:...how did he check the VIN number against the V5 if it is not present... why would anyone buy a car without a V5...why would you even consider selling a car without a V5. , the owner did not have the V5 ...
I'm sorry, but No V5 then no sale ...wanting to see the V5
Enough! We get the point, you're kinky for V5's, calm down.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:42 pm

Mobster , Before you over and out and log off
Can i ask , Do you know ata ?
Im just curious that in 3 years you have done 110 posts but 15 in this thread sort of defending ata
Everyone knows what ata is like , Its a shame most the posts relating to him are locked away so people cant read what the guy is like , Unless you know different ??
Most share the same opinion of him
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Ranchero wrote:
mobster wrote:...how did he check the VIN number against the V5 if it is not present... why would anyone buy a car without a V5...why would you even consider selling a car without a V5. , the owner did not have the V5 ...
I'm sorry, but No V5 then no sale ...wanting to see the V5
Enough! We get the point, you're kinky for V5's, calm down.
hahahaha. legend. I love the V5 !!!!!
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:44 pm

mobster wrote:No i agree its not bent like a banana, however i was using Atta's description, however if i saw the VIN plate in that condition, i would need to check it against the V5. Again, no V5 to check the numbers against then no sale. Once bitten, twice shy.

Over and out from me.
if you did a proper HPI check like most do when buying a car you would have the vin numbers from the report to compare, having the V5 doesn't mean anything, least of all ownership

the cars vin numbers on the scuttle relate to the vin tag so it wouldn't ring bells for me,
when looking at buying a tech1 the vin numbers are the last thing on my mind, I'm more bothered about the big fooking rust holes i may find :eek:
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mobster wrote:No i agree its not bent like a banana, however i was using Atta's description, however if i saw the VIN plate in that condition, i would need to check it against the V5. Again, no V5 to check the numbers against then no sale. Once bitten, twice shy.

Over and out from me.
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:46 pm

Steve-E30 wrote:Mobster , Before you over and out and log off
Can i ask , Do you know ata ?
Im just curious that in 3 years you have done 110 posts but 15 in this thread sort of defending ata
Everyone knows what ata is like , Its a shame most the posts relating to him are locked away so people cant read what the guy is like , Unless you know different ??
Most share the same opinion of him
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Only on here, however the reason i have posted so much on this post is that i have been messed about in a similar fashion.
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mobster wrote:
Steve-E30 wrote:Mobster , Before you over and out and log off
Can i ask , Do you know ata ?
Im just curious that in 3 years you have done 110 posts but 15 in this thread sort of defending ata
Everyone knows what ata is like , Its a shame most the posts relating to him are locked away so people cant read what the guy is like , Unless you know different ??
Most share the same opinion of him
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Only on here, however the reason i have posted so much on this post is that i have been messed about in a similar fashion.
Fair play :thumb:
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:47 pm

In an other post, ata said you'd bought a car off him?
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:49 pm

hi mate. if i was the bloke i would be pi55ed that you didnt have the v5 present so i can see why he asked for the money back. but....a deposit is what it is - tech it isnt refundable + the bullsh1t about the vin numbers. to you though, youve asked the guy around to your house so id have gave it him back. you never know if hes gonna come back round with a few mates or put a brick through your window. always meet at a neutral spot for inspection and take a few mates along incase it gets lairy (car jack!), then when alls good get him round your yard to sort out the payment. thats what id have done anyway, but having said that i wouldve visually had the v5 ready at the time. if he doesnt call again i wouldnt worry, its just incase he comes back to kick off, you dont need that at your front door :?
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Sat Jul 16, 2011 11:50 pm

golfman wrote:In an other post, ata said you'd bought a car off him?
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Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
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Steve-E30 wrote:Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
What, past your bedtime already Steve :mad:
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Steve-E30 wrote:Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
f*ck off then you c*ck juggling thunder c*nt :mad: (i am just jesting of course and merely stirring the pot)
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Curr946 wrote:
mobster wrote:No i agree its not bent like a banana, however i was using Atta's description, however if i saw the VIN plate in that condition, i would need to check it against the V5. Again, no V5 to check the numbers against then no sale. Once bitten, twice shy.

Over and out from me.
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Ranchero wrote:
mobster wrote:...how did he check the VIN number against the V5 if it is not present... why would anyone buy a car without a V5...why would you even consider selling a car without a V5. , the owner did not have the V5 ...
I'm sorry, but No V5 then no sale ...wanting to see the V5
Enough! We get the point, you're kinky for V5's, calm down.
Lmfao....
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The_Haywood wrote:
Steve-E30 wrote:Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
f*ck off then you c*ck juggling thunder c*nt :mad: (i am just jesting of course and merely stirring the pot)
Jeez ,I see the tourettes keyboard you won on ebay turned up :P

Yep , He bought the 325 chromie jim was saving his pocket monet for 8O
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Steve-E30 wrote:
The_Haywood wrote:
Steve-E30 wrote:Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
f*ck off then you c*ck juggling thunder c*nt :mad: (i am just jesting of course and merely stirring the pot)
Jeez ,I see the tourettes keyboard you won on ebay turned up :P

Yep , He bought the 325 chromie jim was saving his pocket monet for 8O
you bet your f*cking ass it did c*ck knocker.
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Mobster did you do the appropriate HPI/Vin/scuttle/banana checks when buying this turd ?
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Steve-E30 wrote:
The_Haywood wrote:
Steve-E30 wrote:Will you lot pack it in , I wanna go to bed not start eating poxy popcorn :sleep:
f*ck off then you c*ck juggling thunder c*nt :mad: (i am just jesting of course and merely stirring the pot)
Jeez ,I see the tourettes keyboard you won on ebay turned up :P

Yep , He bought the 325 chromie jim was saving his pocket monet for 8O
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you know ata will be back on this thread in 35 minutes......
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Curr946 wrote:you know ata will be back on this thread in 35 minutes......
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