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Conan
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:23 pm

Any one know anything about them as i'm thinking at getting a 325iS off a mate which has the 2.7 conversion, done by griffen motorsport.
Its a dolphin grey Sport with 6-branch, Magnex stainless system, and all the usual goodies.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 4:30 pm

If it is a REAL 325is 2.7 it would have been made in South Africa.

Otherwise there its just a 325i (no S) sport with a 2.7 conversion.

just thought i would clear that up...

Doesn't karan's have work done by griffen? or am i very wrong...
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:03 pm

Gwynleym10 wrote:If it is a REAL 325is 2.7 it would have been made in South Africa.

Otherwise there its just a 325i (no S) sport with a 2.7 conversion.

just thought i would clear that up...

Doesn't karan's have work done by griffen? or am i very wrong...
Yeah I think Karan has one of their heads? Supposed to be v. nice & v. expensive IIRC!
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:51 pm

Yeah Karan has stage III head and its very nice!

Me want it winkeye


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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:52 pm

its got too many combustion chambers for you tho Demlot
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:54 pm

Jhonno wrote:its got too many combustion chambers for you tho Demlot
Well you never know! Might turn to the dark side :roll:

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Tue Nov 01, 2005 5:57 pm

:lol: I think this is the one case when 6 pot is the dark side winkeye
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:27 pm

apparently Griffin stroked the 2.5 out to 2.7 rather than boreing it. giving it a longer stroke, crank and rods/pistons so as not to weaken the block. this sound right to any one?
'91 Sterling Silver e30 320i SE
'96 Avus Blue e34 525i Sport
'92 Alpine White e30 318iS Touring
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:33 pm

sounds familiar! there's loads of threads about how to do this if you do a search
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 6:50 pm

everyone strokes the 2.5 out for 2.7
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:46 pm

yeh my 2.7 has a griffin head with all the goodies..... i have the receipt here and the head casting cost Ԛ£1500!!! which is quite a lot

im sure Ian can elighten us as to the actual work on it.... although i believe it has the following:

strengthened welded waterways
3 angle etc...
ported
flowed


dunno about there actiual bottom ends though to be honest except they were one of the first out there to offer it but i dont think they do anymore
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:57 pm

Karan wrote:yeh my 2.7 has a griffin head with all the goodies..... i have the receipt here and the head casting cost Ԛ£1500!!! which is quite a lot

im sure Ian can elighten us as to the actual work on it.... although i believe it has the following:

strengthened welded waterways
3 angle etc...
ported
flowed


dunno about there actiual bottom ends though to be honest except they were one of the first out there to offer it but i dont think they do anymore
That includes a new casting aswell. Very good though.

There are cheaper alternatives which are as good. Player6's head is a work of art aswell (his engine puts out 250 bhp). I think that wont cost you Ԛ£1500 though.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 7:58 pm

I wonder if Griffen still make a 2.7

it was using the ETA crank so its the same configuration as the others. The only difference is usually the pistons if we look at the block in isolation.

Ask them what their 220bhp conversion costs.
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:21 pm

thats what this one is - the 220bhp conv. take it its a quality job then.
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'96 Avus Blue e34 525i Sport
'92 Alpine White e30 318iS Touring
'86 Alpine White e28 M5 (008/187)
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Tue Nov 01, 2005 8:24 pm

Yep! I know someone who used to own a full griffin motorsport and had an Alpina C2 aswell. He said the Griffin was much more brutal.

All depends on the condition of it though to be honest. get it dynoed before you buy it!
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cheers :thumb:
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'96 Avus Blue e34 525i Sport
'92 Alpine White e30 318iS Touring
'86 Alpine White e28 M5 (008/187)
'02 Titan Silver e39 530d Sport Touring
'54 Cosmos Black e61 535d MSport Touring
'07 Sapphire Black e61 M5 Touring

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Tue Nov 01, 2005 9:28 pm

but the GUG also sports this little baby!

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Look at the join on the second cylinder pipe its sleved for god sake!

Ive yet to see something as good!

(the top pic is of a RD manifold made for the 525i, and the 325i ones were better!)

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Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:09 pm

Are there any of these Griffin motorsport cars on here right now or even any left?

I used to live about 5 miles from there yard in lydiard Millicent i think it was.

Even sent off for there brochure/price list shortly after owning my first e30 in 94, wish i still had the paper work.

I remember you could have a variety of packages, 2.7 based on 2.5 or 2.3.
Different performance packages, all meant you got a rebuild then options on different heads and 6 branchers.

Pretty sure they were doing short wheel base Audi Quatro conversions at one stage too.


All a very long time ago, just wondered if any still about or if anyone has any pictures of them?
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 9:20 pm

Was reading this post just yesterday!

Anyone know when Griffin stopped being the official importer for Hartge in the UK? Apparently, they were the official importer before Birds..
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:07 pm

Griffen arent around any more
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:14 pm

but the guys who worked for him are and still trade and can still do the work so i'm told
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:19 pm

2 years since Demlot posted those pics, I've just taken some pics of a RD manifold... winkeye
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Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:36 pm

There must be some of these cars left on the road or tucked away somewhere, who knows how many conversions they did.

Not looking like there are any on here though, just the stage 3 head on the GUG
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My white C1 2.3 had a Griffin built 2.7 which is now sat under a tarpaulin, slowly seizing up. Shame, it was a good engine. I doubt it'll run again for a year or three.
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Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:04 pm

Wonder what ever happened to Max Powers project 320 from about 95, the purple wide arch thing ! I'm pretty sure that had a Griffin built 2.3 in it .
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milez wrote:Wonder what ever happened to Max Powers project 320 from about 95, the purple wide arch thing ! I'm pretty sure that had a Griffin built 2.3 in it .
Project XS from mid 94, had a reiger wide arch kit on it, cant remember what engine but i still have a couple of Max power mags from that year with it in.
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bss325i wrote:
milez wrote:Wonder what ever happened to Max Powers project 320 from about 95, the purple wide arch thing ! I'm pretty sure that had a Griffin built 2.3 in it .
Project XS from mid 94, had a reiger wide arch kit on it, cant remember what engine but i still have a couple of Max power mags from that year with it in.
Forgot about that!

3 spoke rims were cool in them days winkeye
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oguz327 wrote:
bss325i wrote:
milez wrote:Wonder what ever happened to Max Powers project 320 from about 95, the purple wide arch thing ! I'm pretty sure that had a Griffin built 2.3 in it .
Project XS from mid 94, had a reiger wide arch kit on it, cant remember what engine but i still have a couple of Max power mags from that year with it in.
Forgot about that!

3 spoke rims were cool in them days winkeye
And the chequer graphics! yeah!
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