s50b32 e30 325i sport tech 1

[hybrid]

cheers fellas.

nice work, love the AKG shifter, might have one of those.

interesting mod on the heater pipes. i need to do a similar job as mine foul my m50 inlet. its not clear on the pics but was the top pipe metal or plastic?

Both metal from memory. hack saw or angle grinder and a dremal or fine round file for tidying up the ends.

[nickso]

hmm. mine are plastic, i'll have to find some metal ones. cheers.

[bedumon]

Epic build. Watching very closely!!

[tomson]

Great project !

[hybrid]

So today thanks to Ray @ Hellbm (http://www.hellbm.com) converted my horrible e30 window switches to then nice 'click' feel of the e36 switches.

I first tried some green base switches which as I found out dont work. This is because the later model switches are infact digital encoder switches and only tell the general module (GM) to activate the electric window relays. E30's obviously didnt have such technology so I went for a white base switch.




So I decided to include a small write up to help others, this also includes a wiring diagram from the info I had at hand.

Green base switches (dont use these! )


Green base digital encoder


Green base pulled apart




White base switch (Use this or Blue base). Notice the thicker wiring


Inside the switch


Proper high current switch contacts to deal with the current from the electric window motors.




Before starting any of this DISCONNECT YOUR BATTERY FROM THE TERMINALS
My brother has had a high current burn before and it burnt a hole right through his hand once, crossing these wires will do the same if you short them

So lets get started,

Remove the gear shifter boot. and remove the e30 window switches, unplug the e30 loom end and we cut the plug off.





Twist the wires on following the wiring diagram carefully. Use electrical tape to shield the wires from each other (make sure you have it all covered) and reconnect the battery, turn the key to postion 2, and test you windows. You should also have the LED light up (you switch should glow)



After this, disconnect the battery and tin / solder all wires on the switches and e30 loom end.

Right nows the time to enlarge the switch hole in the console to fit the larger e36 switch. I took my time with this and used a half round/flat file. I thought about using my dremel but there is a risk of over shooting the mark and cutting too much off. constantly test fit the switch and surround



BEFORE you solder the wires together, run them through the enlarged hole. You dont HAVE to do this .. but it makes it easier to locate the switch.

Use heat shrink and a heat gun to shirnk up the tubes.CAREFUL DONT MELT YOU CONSOLE!



Repeat all of this for the other side, obviously following the wiring diagram to suit your switch type. My second switch was from the rear e36 switch panel so it had different colours I have included it in the wiring diagram.





Put it all back together and reconnect the battery and test.

All Done!

[Greeny]

Awesome, awesome, awesome love this thread love the car!

[hybrid]

So was messing around and got GT1/DIS44 working finally with the Carsoft interface.





Also managed to buy a new set of tyres which fit a lot better and allow me to turn full lock without touching. Which will allow me to have the car certed. Yay.
My spare set of LMs with FK-452 18x8.5 on 225/35r18




Going to send this set in to have curb rash removed and cleaned up a tad. then its time to roll the fenders and lower. I currently have the shocks wound up to the hardest setting to reduce travel .. its solid as s**t and not much fun on the back however will put this back once fenders are rolled. Its gonna be tight but worth it I think. Also note stack of sacrificial rubber :ph34r:

[octanejunkie]

Nice. You must be minted!
Wish i had some money...

[steve_k]

that is one hell of a project

keep the updates comming.

also anyone got a link to where i can find any info on the AKG shifter?/buy one?

[hybrid]

Cheers fellas

that is one hell of a project

keep the updates comming.

also anyone got a link to where i can find any info on the AKG shifter?/buy one?

They dont sell the DTM1 shifter any more unfortunitly however they now do v2 of this shifter which looks a little bit different.

http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog/ca ... 20Shifters

man, I should go for some sponsorship from AKG, the number of shifter sales they will have now cause of this project

[steve_k]

Cheers fellas

that is one hell of a project

keep the updates comming.

also anyone got a link to where i can find any info on the AKG shifter?/buy one?

They dont sell the DTM1 shifter any more unfortunitly however they now do v2 of this shifter which looks a little bit different.

http://www.akgmotorsport.com/catalog/ca ... 20Shifters

man, I should go for some sponsorship from AKG, the number of shifter sales they will have now cause of this project

cheers dude thanks for that.

[hybrid]

Out on the track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi--XjCdJ-8

[hybrid]

Quick photo shoot tonight of Hybrids Tech1 m325i s50b32 BBS LM 18 inch, Jamez's m325i Tech 2 BBS RS 15 inch, Aprils Black Cab e30 BBS RS 16 inch.










Some more of my friends cars you might enjoy...

[Dezzy]

Nice!!!!!

[toby]

That looks brilliant. Loving the photos.

[Blitz]

Loving the Tech 1 S50. Thats how BBS RS's should look like.

[hybrid]

Some updates:

Fuel system added (before hampton actually) but heres a shot of it anyways.

Specs: normal pre-fl tank feeds the external accumulator (high volume, low pressure) feeds a 2 liter surge tank which inturn feeds the Walbro 500hp (low volume, high pressure 5 bar++) pump (not pictured as its underneath).
The 2 liters is a bit over kill but also acts as a nice reserve if the accumulator would ever to fail.
Accumulator and primer is wired in a relay and then to the DME so when EWS enables engine start .. both pumps fire a primer of gas through the lines. It leaves the pumps on the security system which is nice




And an interior shot so far.

mostly stock, e36 window switches and e34 leather hand brake (e brake) grip.

[hybrid]

Engine bay as promised

[hybrid]

Some recent additions.

Replaced the pre-fl metal head lights for some light weight nylon frame Bosch projector elipsoid 'Smilie' headlights -- next is 6000k h1 HID



Sparco 330mm / 39offset black suede wheel

[hybrid]

Slicks are fun ...
Now to get use to their limits.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8OM7V723is

enjoy

[DanThe]

[Dezzy]

Very

[DanThe]

Just needs some chrome to finish off eh Dez

[Dezzy]

Just needs some chrome to finish off eh Dez

My thoughts exactly. Save some weight too!

[whiterhino]

absolutely awesome. jeeeez i miss my tech1

[hybrid]

Some additions.

I was very suprised how light these all were.

Front strut brace, rear strut brace and under body chassie brace.



Front strut brace installed. It cleared the s50 perfectly and more importantly the brake fluid well.






The rear brace was a little bit more difficult to install because of my ground control rear top mounts and tower re-inforcement plates. I had to remove both wheels and drop the top bolts out.







and installed



Ill install the under body brace tomorrow and upload the result.

[hybrid]

Hey guys,
Here is a mag article that recently came out of my car. Few details in the mag are a little incorrect outside of my control so I have pasted my own corrected story too
Also normally the car doesn’t sit this low for suspension geometry reasons.
The car has had a few more things done to it since this but as promised.
Build thread here ..
http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=162982



Full story and specs:
1986 E30 m325i with s50b32
The project started after I had finished my modified e46 330i. I need something outside of my daily driver that I could take on the track that was a bit more suited to the task.
Being inspired by some of the modified cars coming out of Sweden and Norway and the crazy event that is Gatebil, the scene was set.
One night about 4 years ago I invited some of my BMW pairs along for a beer or two to help plan the project, It goals were for a light weight, great handling rocket that you could throw around the track but could still out pace most vehicles on the road today.
The chassis was chosen, it would be a NZ New 1986 325i motorsport m-tech1, which I was very lucky to find for a good price before the prices of these vehicles started to go up. This example had been stored in garage and driven for many years on the open roads of the south island. So was in near perfect order for its age.
The engine was a different story. I had a phone call from a friend of mine who has his hand in every part of BMW racing in New Zealand. He had a s50b32 motor for me which would need some work. So I purchased this, a new gearbox from a z3m (m-coupe) as well as a single trailing suspension arm/half-shaft assembly. The thing to realise about doing this sort of thing in a country like NZ is that these parts just don’t exist second hand, unlike in Europe where m3’s and z3m’s are pretty common. I soon realised I would be buying and importing a lot of ”˜M’ parts new from BMW.
After having the engine stripped down and checked .. I would need to replace the pistons, skim the crank and run over size bearings which got me thinking about weather I had made the right choice as the bore had some water / rust damage from when it has been left outside however luck would have it a couple of years later another friend of mine phoned me and told me he knew were a low K s50b32 was sitting and the guy just wanted to sell it. I had the budget for a second motor and it was an amazing price so I took the opportunity while it presented itself. In my hot little hands I had a 321hp 38,000k s50b32 from a BMW 98 M3 Evo sport. It included all the bits I didn’t have, DME (ECU), complete engine loom and special expansion chamber headers etc. These engines are already very highly strung with a small margin to guarantee reliability and road driveability. Features such as under piston oil squirter for cooling at high RPM, high compression ratio, Individual throttle bodies (ITB), forged crank and true hydraulic variable valve timing on both the exhaust and intake sides which has been lifted from the s70/2 from the BMW powered McLaren F1. If you look at a s70 it is in fact two s50b32’s essentially glued together to make a v12.
Ray from HellBM kindly supplied me with a workshop and any parts I didn’t buy new. My best friend Brendon and I had just finished working our bands (Antiform) album at the time and decided to get started on the engine conversion.
We poured over any information we could find on the net to find the best solutions to each problem, which of there were many to overcome, including translating Swedish and German languages!
First up was which engine mounts to run, OEM m5 engine mounts gave the correct amount of support and stiffness for the torque of the engine. New e21 gearbox mounts were used with a special alloy cups to stop movement.
A Group-A drive shaft was used as it was the correct length from the ZF 5speed z3m gearbox to the new z3m ”˜finned’ 3:15 diff.
Suspension:
The rear suspension was complete replaced with z3m and aftermarket. The trailing arms, up-rated ”˜M’ half shafts, from a z3m (m-coupe) as they fit perfectly on the e30 Chassis as BMW just happened to use the e30 plans for the basis of the z3 chassis. Handy ïaŠ
This setup also allowed me to use the m-coupe hub and paved way to change over from the annoying wheel PDC standard of 4x100 to 5x120 of which there are lot more wheels available.
The shocks installed were Koni yellow race adjustable shocks and sourced from the US BMW racing scene matched Eibach 700 pound rear springs.
Also sourced from the US a ground control adjustable perch kit to allow height adjustment and adjustable top mounts.
Also installed was a Ireland Engineering adjustable sway bar with re-in forced support plates bolted to the boot floor as the stock ones tend to bend under hard track driving.
The front suspension starts with a brand new set of e30 m3 struts and hub (also 5x120 PDC) a converted ground control spring perch cupping Eibach 525 pound front springs with a Koni yellow adjustable race shock inserts. The sway bars are again Ireland Engineering adjustables.
The top mounts are ground control camber adjustable. And I have increase front castor using a set of treehouse racing eyeball arms which allow the 18x8.5s just turn lock to lock. This also help remove the e30’s ”˜twitchiness’ and increases cornering speeds as it essentially makes the wheel base longer. I have dialled in 3 degrees of negative camber and toe out to match.
Brakes:
The brakes where interesting, one of the most important things to me was the age old saying if you want power, you need to be able to stop. The standard 325i brakes were pretty pathetic so I employed a set of Wilwood 332mm slotted front discs using the US sourced Wilwood SL-6 slim line 6 pot callipers. The calliper mounts and floating disc hats where also sourced from Massivebrakes.com which make special kits for BMW brake conversions.
The Rear brakes worked out really well, The new ”˜M’ z3m rear 315mm rotors and 2 pot provide perfect break and heat balance.
To drive all of this, some pretty big changes were needed under the hood. So a up-rated 25mm Audi v8 master cylinder was used and a booster from a MKII golf 1.3 uk model. The reason for the smaller booster was the intake plenum on the engine just wouldn’t fit. Cutting into the plenum was not an option as this effected flow into the engine, and this is one of the main areas the s50b32 gets it power from, highly efficient air flow.
To also fix this, Brendon and I had a friend draw up in CAD a new re-enforcement offset plate which was laser cut out of stainless to move the whole assembly over 40mm. We also had to modify the pedal drive rod for a e34 5 series one.
Steal braided lines tie the whole lot together.
On the track the pedal feel is amazing, you can really feel the points when your about to lock it up, which helps when diving it into the corners. There is no ABS which I think is an improvement on a track day car.

Steering:
The steering rack was quite difficult, It turned out to be one of the most difficult things in the project. I bought a 2.7 turn z3 steering rack and steering linkage which was near new however fitting it with the engine headers and the sump was a nightmare.
Lots of careful modification to the headers and shimming the rack mounts and legally modifying the steering linkage finally allowed 2mm clearance from the sump and 8mm clearance from the headers for the linkage. It was worth it however, any time the tail kicks out on the car you very easy to catch with a quick correction on the steering wheel.
The engine was left fairly ”˜stock’ which is a kind of ironic thing when you talk about ”˜M’ engines. A very experienced top running BMW Targa driver once told us when visiting the work shop that it’s the best of both worlds, a high performing NA ”˜race’ engine with all the benefits of longevity as rebuilds are costly on these things.
We did however have to change the sump to a E34 5 series sump and oil pickup as the s50b32 sump doesn’t clear the e30 cross member as the well is at the rear of the engine.
With the E34 sump there is also the added bonus of good oil supply under heavy braking on the track as unfortunately one flaw the s50b32 sump design has is it will loose oil pressure after a corner as all the oil has flowed to the front of the sump in a race situation. A few BMW open class race cars have run bearings because of original s50b32 sump shortcoming.
The fuel is supplied by a 500hpWalbro external tied into a 2 litre surge tank with external low pressure high flow accumulator pump, which is a bit overkill but it allows me to avoid fuel starvation/leaning out for at least a few laps of Hampton downs!
Cooling is taken care with a US sourced e36 m3 all alloy Fluidyne radiator which holds 33% more coolant than stock We use a e36 m3 remote expansion tank to regulate pressure.
Oil cooling is was piped using AN lines to a stock e30 325i cooler which works effortlessly.
The exhaust system was designed and TIG welded up in 2inch with mandril ”˜thin walled’ stainless by Brendan Dunker at Niteparts/Convert ltd.
As this is another major area the s50b32 engine makes its power advice was sought around the best configuration from Gavin @ Hi Velocity. The final design was a 2 inch pipe from the headers all the way as far back as possible to retain mid range torque, threw a high flow stainless removable centre muffler into a 3 inch single pipe onto a e60 550i v8 Remus stainless rear muffler.
We also had fabricated up a laser cut flanged straight pipe centre section for extra flow and noise on track days.
The sound allows the engine to really scream however sounding fairly sedate at idle.
The interior of the car is fairly stock ”˜houndstooth’ motorsport livery, with the addition of a sports steering wheel and a DTM direct linkage short shifter. This gives the car a very firm mechanical feel shifting up or down, its great for feeling if you have hit the mark when heel/toeing a down shift.
I am working on a Racechrono GPS lap timer touch screen system at the moment which will be added soon. This will be a removable system to bring the interior back to stock.
I use a Sparco 330mm 39mm offset suede racing steering wheel for grip. It’s a great feeling wheel which in my view has the perfect amount of diameter to match the steering rack ratio. It’s great for catching those slides too!

Electronics:
Where to start! This was the other hard thing on the build. For two main reasons, ODBII just didn’t exist in 1986 and there was quite a bit of literature around for the 1988 onward e30 face lift cars but not 1986 pre-facelift cars.
In a lot of cases there were differences in wiring, sensors, senders and instrument clusters.
The only way was for us to trace the old scanned in 1980s factory circuit diagrams and work out the circuits ourselves.
I wont bore you with too many details as you would need the rest of the magazine to cover it but issues such as start motor ignition from the DME (ECU) was different and fuel tank senders to gauges.
Some really cool outcomes were we got to retain the BMW transponder chip drive away protection system called EWS.
The car also was fully functioning ODBII which allows us to run logging systems along side the GPS lap timer while racing.
The programming of all modules was done the hard way using HellBM’s GT1 coding tools. Another thing we had to research and learn ourselves.
The DME (ECU) is the high powered MSS50 Siemens unit which obviously drives the engine but also keeps the variable value timing (VANOS) at its optimum which allows for the best of both worlds. Low end torque at lower RPM and high peak horse power and torque all the way up to the 8000rpm rev limit.
The stock s50b32 loom was mated to the stock pre-facelift e30 body loom to and all power and relays were modified in the fuse and relay box to retain a factory look and finish.

Driveline:
There were no reasonable priced light weight flywheel and clutch setups around. So I thought I’d have a crack at building my own one up.
The flywheel was knocked up in CAD and machined from a single billet and the original ring gear was removed from the old dual mass flywheel and used. This gave a flywheel that could handle the strains of 8000rpm however only weighed 6.23kg.
This was balanced perfectly with a modified SACHs pressure plate pulling a solid 450hp capable 3030ft pound. A carbon ceramic clutch was used to allow the car to be driven with no problems in rush hour traffic.
Performance:
There is nothing quite like a screaming straight 6. If you have ever heard the induction sounds of a DTM race car, you’ll get an idea of what this thing sounds like. You can hear it before you see it when the throttle bodies are opened up at full noise.
I was at a recent track day testing it on a very wet track, once I got traction I was pulling away strongly from a b5 Audi RS with no issues. It recently kept up with an e60 m5 around hampton downs and have posted a 1:18.3 lap at last count.
The thing that’s surprising with this thing is the instant throttle response. The rush of power comes right down from 1500rpm all the way up evenly to 8000rpm. Its like having a high powered turbo car power on tap at any RPM.
Cornering is awesome, because the car is fairly light weight it really does feel like a go cart. steering response from the 2.7 turn z3 steering rack and high front camber is sharp and direct and rapid.
You really have to watch the rear end on this thing
Wheels:
Road:
One of the added bonuses with switching to 5 lug (5x120PDC) was the choice of wheels. I scowed trade me and found a mint condition set of BBS LM 2 piece forged light weight wheels. The specs are 18x8.5 et30 on Falken FK-452 225/35r18. These where squeezed in to the arches with a minor guard roll needed in the rear. The front run 15mm spacers and longer hi tensile lug bolts. To bring the front offset to 15mm.
Race:
A set of BBS RC mono block 17x8.5 light weight wheels on Dunlop 240/625r17 D11 slicks are used for track day rubber.
The first run at Hampton downs showed that normal road rubber just isn’t up to the task after a few laps they overheat and kill the late braking buzz pretty quickly.

Body:
The body is original BMW M-Technik1.

DRIVER PROFILE:
Josh Purcell
Age: 33
Occupation: IT Consultant, Band (Antiform)
Length of ownership: Approx 4 years
Cars previously/currently owned: BMW e36 320i Schnitzer, modified BMW e46 330i, BMW e39 540i Motorsport (current daily).
Sponsors:
Ray @ HellBM, Brendon Dunker @ Niteparts/Convert ltd, Bimmersport.co.nz

Josh thanks: Brendon Spain for building this thing with me, Ray @ HellBM, Gary and Keith @ JC BMW, Paul & Brent @ Precision Autowerks, Conrad Timms, Westie, Ollie M, Ollie G, Bimmersport crew and of course my wife Ange.
Specs

Car

1986 BMW e30 m325i
M-Technik 1 body
BMW Polaris Silver colour

Engine:
NA BMW s50b32 3.2ltr (321hp) from a 1998 e36 M3 EVO sport
e34 m5 engine mounts
Stainless m3 EVO headers and custom stainless tuned exhaust with e60 550i Remus back box (with straight pipe option for track days)
All alloy Fluidyne radiator (USA)
Motorsport oil cooler / AN lines

Gearbox/driveline:
z3m M-Coupe ZF 5speed
AKG Motorsport DTM short shifter
e21 gearbox mounts with aluminum caps
z3m M-coupe half shafts
z3m M-coupe hubs/bearings
z3m M-coupe finned LSD


Wheels:
Road:
18x8.5 BBS LM 2 piece forged wheels
Falken FK-452 225/35zR18
Race:
17x8.5 BBS RC monoblock light weight wheels
Dunlop 240/625r17 D11

Suspension:
Full 5 lug (stud) conversion.
z3m M-coupe rear trailing arms
E30 M3 front struts
Adjustable rear shock top mounts
Ground control fully adjustable coil over conversion kit.
Ground control camber/caster full adjustable top plates.
Treehouse racing modified eye control arm bushes / linkage
Ireland Engineering front and rear adjustable sway bars and links

Koni yellow race shocks (two way adjustable)
Eibach 525f/700r pound springs

Brakes:
Wilwood 6pot SL-6 Front calipers with 332mm slotted front rotors
z3m M-coupe full floating rear calipers with 315mm rear rotors
Braided brake lines lines
Audi v8/88 25mm master cylinder / mkII 1.3 golf booster.
3inch cooling system with hub backing plates.
Wilwood rear brake bias adjust valve
Electronics:
Siemens MSS50 DME (ECU) running full ODBII
BMW EWS transponder chip/drive away protection system

Misc:
E30 M3 Group-A driveshaft
z3 2.7 turn steering rack
5bar Walbro main pump and secondary accumulator with 2ltr surge tank.
Ultra Racing front strut brace
Ultra Racing rear tower brace
Ultra Racing under body brace

Interior:
Road: Stock motorsport interior
Race: Recaro SPG
Sparco 300mm steering wheel
RaceChrono lap timing system

[lyricalnut02]

epic. love it

[87mtech27]

epic. love it

+1

[winchester]

This is exactly what I'm doing with my M-tech 1 when I'm done with the bodywork, looks great! Good motivation right here, keep rockin' it.

[cpfcluke]

wow, this is a great post.

Will defo be keeping tabs!

[goosiegander]

Any updates/further impressions Dude?

[shabalake]

Hi mate great thread loving the car! . quick question where did u get your windows switchs and wiring from? im tryin to look but cant find them anywhere and would wiring be same in a convertible?
thanks for help
Andy

[RM2186]

Hi mate great thread loving the car! . quick question where did u get your windows switchs and wiring from? im tryin to look but cant find them anywhere and would wiring be same in a convertible?
thanks for help
Andy

They are from an E36

[hybrid]

Correct from an 92-94 e36 (mechanical switches) anything afterwards is a digital encoder / switch.