Sport prices rising?.

[gazm3]

Not wanting to piss on anyones chips.
Im at a disbelief at some of the prices for sport models, im seeing.
6k gets you an anolgue clock. I just bought a nice e39 530 sport for 3k.

[bss325i]

E39's are now firmly in the council cheap car end of the market with prices constantly falling.

You can pick up a perfectly usable taxed and tested E39 for £500.

[gazm3]

Your right mate, I find it an interesting experiance looking at the zone forsale section.
Some zoners have a worped sence of value for their old beemer.

[Dezzy]

Your right mate, I find it an interesting experiance looking at the zone forsale section.
Some zoners have a worped sence of value for their old beemer.

There are sooooo few good E30's left! If you spent the same money on a good E30, or a great E39, I know which will be worth more in 5 years....

Clue....
Its not a 5

[DanThe]

a great E39,

A what what??

[Dezzy]

a great E39,

A what what??

Exactly

[bss325i]

E39's are a very good car, there is no denying that. But that are getting old and worthless.

[sweep]

What cars nowadays are really going to hold value with the fuel prices? im all for my e30 325's but its just killing it ....

[Kos]

good e39's especially 530i/d sports are holding their money

[pacerpete]

good e39's especially 530i/d sports are holding their money

Andyp might still see a small Pepsi, but you'll be going thirsty Kos !

[pony]

I am a bit of a fan of the e46s and e39s.

the e39 when it came out won numerous awards from what car/is the last good looking 5 series built especially in facelift version/superb dash layout ergonomics/peerless especially the e39 m5/great car

would love to have e39 540i facelift/e39 m5 facelift before all the excellent low mileage low owner well looked after vehicles disappear. i am a big fan of the e39 m5s. e39 prices may even pick up in yrs to come who knows it certaintly a damn neater and tidier than bangles creation.

yes its funny for a good sport you can get into a e46 330Ci/e39/e34.

I was thinking to myself back in 2006 why the hell are e30 prices so high?

ps lol imagine turning up to work in a e39 m5 would be quite a sight

[Topblag]

Is this thread not supposed to be about Sport prices ?

[oguz327]

I dont see why anyone would be shocked about Sport prices rising, a decent Sport has been around the 5k mark for years now and finding a good one now is not as easy so surely the prices will rise. Same thing with 2 door e30s, isnt this good news?

[jamie325isport]

Not wanting to pee pee on anyones chips.
Im at a disbelief at some of the prices for sport models, im seeing.
6k gets you an anolgue clock. I just bought a nice e39 530 sport for 3k.

Its the way of the World! Not just E30 Sports or cars or vehicles.

I dont know what age any of you are but think of something that was cool when you was a kid. A toy for example. For me the original star wars. Every kid had star wars toys. Common as. But not every kid had the bigger, cooler better toys!

As time goes by they lose there value, get chucked down the tip, melted round the back of dads shed while experimenting with a can of WD40 and a box of matches..... You cant give them away.

More time passes numbers dwindle until people want them for whatever reason. More people want something means the more expensive it becomes. And the more time that goes by the more people there will be.

But the bigger, cooler better toys will always fetch a better premium. And of course the toy in mint unused condition in original box will always be the ultimate.

Its the same principle with the 325i sport, M3, Mk1 & Mk2 Escort etc etc etc. There was hundreds, thousands, hundreds of thousands Mk1 & Mk2 escorts made, of course majority basic standard cars. But now even the basic models fetch strong money if mint. I remember them being dumped at the side of the road they had almost no value and no one wanted a 'old escort'

So the answer is no one buy them. No demand prices will drop. Especially the E30 M3's no one buy those anymore



But I doubt that would happen. Its all about the demand. Look at the bay window camper & raleigh chopper. Enough demand to MASS reproduce it!! But never as good as the original.

Even your E39 will have a premium one day with a post on the E39zone.net asking why are the 530 sports are so expensive?
16k gets you manual seats. I just bought a nice e139 hover sport for 13k

Is this thread not supposed to be about Sport prices ?

Only came to this thread because I thought my car had gone up significantly!!

[polsta]

Your right mate, I find it an interesting experiance looking at the zone forsale section.
Some zoners have a worped sence of value for their old beemer.

this !!!

thing is- asking prices, and selling prices/true values, are different,in some cases what been posted on here in last 6 weeks-worlds apart !

sport asking prices- seen some 6k etc, do they sell for that ? 318is with tech 2 kits- people spent a fortune doing- and asking 4k and wonder they dont sell, as nice a condition as they are

a 6k 318is, a 4k 316 , for sale currently- are they worth that much ? its all fair and well thinking it is- but if no one is out there to buy it/willing to pay that, is it worth that ?(as nice as the cars are)
think some people see the prices on 4 star classics,old colonel etc of really mint real low milage examples 100% standard, and think their nice condition car- is worth the same sort of money, and often have a few "boy racer" type mods or look/feel to the car and advert, with a dreamer price- possibly gives a bit of an "idiot" owner, type impression, and would make people steer clear on that basis alone, it would me

[skipunda]

I've been to see 2 sports this year and the pre-facelift was rotten at the bulkhead and the tech2 only throughout the boot plus usual floor syndrome. Tech 2's or facelifts - they had a serious change of plan when putting those together. Much better.

[pony]

From a technological engineering view it does not makes sense the newer BMWs e.g. e46s are cheaper than good E30s. However, as someone points it out it is simply demand/supply.

A car is a little like a house......the true value is not really known till point of sale though you can get a fair idea of what it is worth from similar examples.

E30s were produced with such as wide range of specs/options/colours/models that it is hard to find identical ones (generally speaking).

Most houses when you sell the true value is not known till point of sale. Even then different estate agents will give an idea of what they think it is worth but even they truly do not know. Again it can be difficult to compare houses as they can have unique features setting them apart from other ones on the same street etc etc. Just a generalisation.

All demand/supply.

PS
I remember the chopper in ET

[brettE30cab]

I'd always advertise my car at the higher price in the hope that serious buyers turn up and not a load of bruvvas wanting to do a deal for 20p and an Opel manta!

[gazm3]

Interesting responses.
I would have an e39 sport all day long over a e30 mtech2 sport. and 3k in my pocket. (as a daily)
Ive owned a e30 msport cab and e30 M3 until recently and still have my 325 chromie cab.
Looking at the forsale section is atta's sub £700 325i that much different to £6k garage queen sport?. same analogue clock and no mtech 2 kit causing rust issues underneath.
A chromie or a facelift seems not to be as desirable?.
Honestly, Im so glad ive sold my two so called 'special e30's' as I was worried about leaving them in places.
How many zoners use a 325 tech2 sport as there daily?. Surely a second car/garage queen. Isn't that why Howards getting rid of his nice motor?.

I see more and more zoners are having tiddlers and moving to e36 and e39?.

[Morat]

E39s are lovely cars, but I think they have two drawbacks. Firstly the looks, while still handsome, make the car a bit blobby and anonymous compared with, say, and E46. Also, potential owners look at them with "what if it goes wrong" in the back of their minds.
That said, the M62TU is a beast

[billgatese30]

How many zoners use a 325 tech2 sport as there daily?

Me, although I feel that I am part of a small minority.

[gazm3]

How many zoners use a 325 tech2 sport as there daily?

Me, although I feel that I am part of a small minority.

Yeah but you live at home with your parents and eat Burger Kings for your T. Plus your a geordie and the yanks dont understand you!. lol

[pony]

E39s are lovely cars, but I think they have two drawbacks. Firstly the looks, while still handsome, make the car a bit blobby and anonymous compared with, say, and E46. Also, potential owners look at them with "what if it goes wrong" in the

A facelift e39 (particularly in m5 le mans blue) in my opinion looks far neater and better than a facelift e46 saloon. only the e46 m3 facelift gives it a run for its money.

e46s looks too common esp pre-facelift salons dont really look that nice except coupe if it is original and sharp.

Re:

analogue clock in a 6k sport?
E30s only if that prices if there really are in excellent condition mechanically/chassis/bodywork/with zero rust. That is the hard bit getting a e30 spot on some of the options do not really matter too much as worst case scenario you can always get it retrofitted.
come on, if you really want a digital clock that badly either get a digital watch or retrofit a OBC/digital clock.

[gazm3]

E39s are lovely cars, but I think they have two drawbacks. Firstly the looks, while still handsome, make the car a bit blobby and anonymous compared with, say, and E46. Also, potential owners look at them with "what if it goes wrong" in the

A facelift e39 (particularly in m5 le mans blue) in my opinion looks far neater and better than a facelift e46 saloon. only the e46 m3 facelift gives it a run for its money.

e46s looks too common esp pre-facelift salons dont really look that nice except coupe if it is original and sharp.

Re:

analogue clock in a 6k sport?
E30s only if that prices if there really are in excellent condition mechanically/chassis/bodywork/with zero rust. That is the hard bit getting a e30 spot on some of the options do not really matter too much as worst case scenario you can always get it retrofitted.
come on, if you really want a digital clock that badly either get a digital watch or retrofit a OBC/digital clock.

The sport forsale on here for 6k with the recaro's has no OBC and that cheap nasty handbrake surround. no leather. I was making a comparison on spec to other sports. The spec on my e39 is immense. Pay 6k then start retro fitting extras was my point.

[pony]

Yeah i got no association with the seller but e30s which are old cars now the emphasis is more on condition then spec. No point having a great spec if the vehicle is not up to scratch mechanically/bodywork/rust.

[Andyboy]

A good Mark 2 Jaguar 3.4 (and I mean a good one) is £25'000.

A tenth of that will buy a much newer, better, faster, more economical and generally vastly superior 2003 S Type.

Cars like these valuable old Jags start off as new cars. Then they're secondhand, then they're 10 year old bangers, then they're in breakers and, once 98% of them are gone, interest in them rises and a simple supply and demand scenario (i.e more buyers than cars) arises and prices go up. I've bought running 325i Sports for £350. You won't buy one for that now, or ever again.

There's only one way the values of E30's are going. In another 4-5 years, a really good 325i Sport will be 10 grand.

[pacerpete]

E39 prices are only going one way as well ........

[DanThe]

E39 prices are only going one way as well ........

Pete, ive heard light iron is due to be on the up, shh though

[Morat]

E39s are lovely cars, but I think they have two drawbacks. Firstly the looks, while still handsome, make the car a bit blobby and anonymous compared with, say, and E46. Also, potential owners look at them with "what if it goes wrong" in the

A facelift e39 (particularly in m5 le mans blue) in my opinion looks far neater and better than a facelift e46 saloon. only the e46 m3 facelift gives it a run for its money.

e46s looks too common esp pre-facelift salons dont really look that nice except coupe if it is original and sharp.

Re:

analogue clock in a 6k sport?
E30s only if that prices if there really are in excellent condition mechanically/chassis/bodywork/with zero rust. That is the hard bit getting a e30 spot on some of the options do not really matter too much as worst case scenario you can always get it retrofitted.
come on, if you really want a digital clock that badly either get a digital watch or retrofit a OBC/digital clock.

Well looks are subjective, so there's not much point in arguing over this but I prefer the looks of the E46 over the E39 because they look tauter and a bit less curvy. There are definitely more E46 around, but that doesn't bother me.

[bss325i]

You cant compare and old banger (5 series 3 versions old) to a classic (E30).

[mattrs]

E39's are now firmly in the council cheap car end of the market with prices constantly falling.

You can pick up a perfectly usable taxed and tested E39 for £500.

What with cloth seats, 1.8 or a 2ltr poverty spec shed!? Good 530d for example still hold there money very well! That said the juicy 540's have dropped a lot lately!

[bss325i]

E39's are now firmly in the council cheap car end of the market with prices constantly falling.

You can pick up a perfectly usable taxed and tested E39 for £500.

What with cloth seats, 1.8 or a 2ltr poverty spec shed!? Good 530d for example still hold there money very well! That said the juicy 540's have dropped a lot lately!

Hold their money?! They are only going one way!

No E39's with a 1.8 either!

[mattrs]

99% of cars are depreciating tbf! Unless they are classics like our beloved e30's or VW camper vans! I was looking at late 530d's and a high spec one that had reasonable miles was still 5-6k


I thought there was a 518 maybe not, I stand corrected on that! But to say e39's are council cheap is a bit ott! Some are I suppose,but they are still a nice car imho. Some might say the best bmw ever made! Personaly, I loved my 540 manual!

[swindler]

The last thing I would look at if buying an E30 is whether the gearlever surround is plastic or not, or the clock is analogue. Either can be sorted plug and play for peanuts.
A holed bulkhead on the other hand...

[bss325i]

If you read through this thread you will see that i have said that the E39 is a very good car, i used to own one and have work on and driven many.

The point is, is that they are old and rapidly depreciating, most are in the hands of people who are reluctant to spend money on them and council type who like to nail all sorts of ebay shit to them.

Face facts, they are an old car thats cheap to buy and will soon be worthless and unwanted, like E34's are now.