M3 Edition stolen for the 2nd time!!

[swindler]

Especially if they tracked the initial route it went??

[pony]

This is where a garage comes in handy.

[TheHeap]

Shipping containers don't block tracker signals.

[bmw9818]

its all about living in normal houses, i live in an apparantly very high insurance risk area, never had a single problem with car theft, or vandalism been living here for 20 odd years, even leave my windows open in the day when parked outside not an issue at all,

theives target upmarket propertys cause they know there gonna get more, and most rich old people are vulnerable, if they come to normal estates they know they aint getting shit + they know they gonna get a whooping !

[SDM]

its all about living in normal houses, i live in an apparantly very high insurance risk area, never had a single problem with car theft, or vandalism been living here for 20 odd years, even leave my windows open in the day when parked outside not an issue at all,

theives target upmarket propertys cause they know there gonna get more, and most rich old people are vulnerable, if they come to normal estates they know they aint getting shit + they know they gonna get a whooping !

No offense like...

but those wheels are worth more than your car, criminals try to make the most money for the risk involved.

[maf260]

You're right about criminals going to wealthy areas, but Chorleywood is actually a really low crime area (I live in the same road as my mate). Houses don't often get burgled because of sophisticated alarm systems, dogs, wives at home during the day etc. but cars can be a different matter. Another friend had his S Class stolen from our road in the same way a few years back, they also took a Porsche in the road on the same night - both houses were broken into at night with the owners in the house. I think that people generally don't put their alarms on at night, so houses are easier to enter.
I also believe the car won't come back now. It was undoubtedly taken by the same thieves as they tried the same method of entry. He's glad to see the back of it now due to all of the recent thefts and is looking for a replacement which sadly won't be another M3.

[m8782538]

Defo get new keys lock and alarm, go aftermarket on the alarm, fit a cat 1. keep the tracker, an alarm with anti Jack, you could fit a seperate immobiliser with a remote key that de activates at a set distance away from the car, then just keep it seperate to your keys then the thieving scum can't take the car even if they have the keys.

[maf260]

I think that if somebody really wants something then they'll take it from you. These thieves are clearly professionals and may be willing to stop at nothing to steal whatever they're after. He thought they would never come back as it would be hugely risky and they knew the car had a Tracker fitted. Just shows how determined they were. I reckon it was either stolen to order to go abroad or they have another blue Edition that needs ringing.

[George]

Gone for good this time I'm sure. Absolutely gutting for your mate. It's a real shame one can't have nice things without the concern that some thieving crunts are going to steal them.

Hands. Cut off. End.

[darkchild]

Gone for good this time I'm sure. Absolutely gutting for your mate. It's a real shame one can't have nice things without the concern that some thieving crunts are going to steal them.

Hands. Cut off. End.

Absolutely spot on. That's exactly why I drive a 10 year old E46 and a 22 year old E30. Admittedly it was nowhere near the value or this chap's M3 and was never stolen but the one car I had nearly new (a '97 E36) was forever getting keyed by mindless tw@ts.

[maf260]

Gone for good this time I'm sure. Absolutely gutting for your mate. It's a real shame one can't have nice things without the concern that some thieving crunts are going to steal them.

Hands. Cut off. End.

Absolutely spot on. That's exactly why I drive a 10 year old E46 and a 22 year old E30. Admittedly it was nowhere near the value or this chap's M3 and was never stolen but the one car I had nearly new (a '97 E36) was forever getting keyed by mindless tw@ts.

I don't agree with your approach. I wouldn't drive an old car because somebody might steal a better one, or wear a cheap watch or live in a crap house. If you spend your life worrying about it then what's the point? Buy the things you want, look after them as well as you can, use all the security you feel comfortable with and make sure it's properly insured.

Better to have memories than dreams.

[TheHeap]

You're right about criminals going to wealthy areas, but Chorleywood is actually a really low crime area (I live in the same road as my mate). Houses don't often get burgled because of sophisticated alarm systems, dogs, wives at home during the day etc. but cars can be a different matter. Another friend had his S Class stolen from our road in the same way a few years back, they also took a Porsche in the road on the same night - both houses were broken into at night with the owners in the house. I think that people generally don't put their alarms on at night, so houses are easier to enter.
I also believe the car won't come back now. It was undoubtedly taken by the same thieves as they tried the same method of entry. He's glad to see the back of it now due to all of the recent thefts and is looking for a replacement which sadly won't be another M3.

It's a low crime area but everything gets stolen

[TheHeap]

its all about living in normal houses, i live in an apparantly very high insurance risk area, never had a single problem with car theft, or vandalism been living here for 20 odd years, even leave my windows open in the day when parked outside not an issue at all,

theives target upmarket propertys cause they know there gonna get more, and most rich old people are vulnerable, if they come to normal estates they know they aint getting shit + they know they gonna get a whooping !

In a de ghetto

[polsta]

unreal !!! youd like to think hed of learnt, after having the wheels , then car, stolen and he got it back.... youd store it away for a few months somewhere, giving them plenty of time to realise its not gone after looking plenty or to get locked up for other offences, and like above fit a second imobilser/tracker system or something, not just wait for it to be taken again

[bmw9818]

its all about living in normal houses, i live in an apparantly very high insurance risk area, never had a single problem with car theft, or vandalism been living here for 20 odd years, even leave my windows open in the day when parked outside not an issue at all,

theives target upmarket propertys cause they know there gonna get more, and most rich old people are vulnerable, if they come to normal estates they know they aint getting shit + they know they gonna get a whooping !

No offense like...

but those wheels are worth more than your car, criminals try to make the most money for the risk involved.

yeah for real but still, my point remains big propertys are more attractive to theives cause of the appearance, my house has 3 bm's, my dad got his 535i new back in 98 never had any problems,
where are theives gonna go looking for a nice car to theive off
in central london or the random house in south london?

everyone in my area is close and looks out for eac other even though it looks a bit ghetto

i reckon ive got the nicest car in my close , but yeah closed propertys i.e with gates are more convenient cause theives can scope out an easier way to break in, or steal wheels without neighbours knowing....

[Kedge]

This is crazy

Personaly i think the car will have been stolen to order and will now be heading abroad with them coming back a second time

A mate living just round the corner from me had his Clio F1 stolen in the same way, however the thieves got in during the day while he and the Mrs were out. With a car as rare as the Clio F1 and this version of the M3 there is only so much the thieves can do with them. He got his car back though (not that he wanted it in the end), was parked up on the street in Leicester and a community support officer saw it, only reason they picked it up was the road tax had expired.

[maf260]

You're right about criminals going to wealthy areas, but Chorleywood is actually a really low crime area (I live in the same road as my mate). Houses don't often get burgled because of sophisticated alarm systems, dogs, wives at home during the day etc. but cars can be a different matter. Another friend had his S Class stolen from our road in the same way a few years back, they also took a Porsche in the road on the same night - both houses were broken into at night with the owners in the house. I think that people generally don't put their alarms on at night, so houses are easier to enter.
I also believe the car won't come back now. It was undoubtedly taken by the same thieves as they tried the same method of entry. He's glad to see the back of it now due to all of the recent thefts and is looking for a replacement which sadly won't be another M3.

It's a low crime area but everything gets stolen

Not sure that 4 cars in 6 years (3 really as one of them was stolen twice!) counts as 'everything gets stolen'. It's still a low crime area thankfully.

[maf260]

unreal !!! youd like to think hed of learnt, after having the wheels , then car, stolen and he got it back.... youd store it away for a few months somewhere, giving them plenty of time to realise its not gone after looking plenty or to get locked up for other offences, and like above fit a second imobilser/tracker system or something, not just wait for it to be taken again

Seriously? It was his daily driver. Why would he park up a car he's spent £60k on for a few months? He was hardly waiting for it to get nicked again - as I've already said, if somebody really wants something then they'll take it. This is a relatively rare car and so almost certainly stolen to order.

[Andyboy]

Gone for good this time I'm sure. Absolutely gutting for your mate. It's a real shame one can't have nice things without the concern that some thieving crunts are going to steal them.

Hands. Cut off. End.

Absolutely spot on. That's exactly why I drive a 10 year old E46 and a 22 year old E30. Admittedly it was nowhere near the value or this chap's M3 and was never stolen but the one car I had nearly new (a '97 E36) was forever getting keyed by mindless tw@ts.

I don't agree with your approach. I wouldn't drive an old car because somebody might steal a better one, or wear a cheap watch or live in a crap house. If you spend your life worrying about it then what's the point? Buy the things you want, look after them as well as you can, use all the security you feel comfortable with and make sure it's properly insured.

Better to have memories than dreams.

To a point, but sometimes you reach a 'I don't give a toss' phase. With cars I reached this a few years ago - I like cars but not enough to have something that vermin will be trying to steal, vandalise etc. Will your mate be buying another M3?

Love the 'park it up for a few months' comment!

[bss325i]

Defo get new keys lock and alarm, go aftermarket on the alarm, fit a cat 1. keep the tracker, an alarm with anti Jack, you could fit a seperate immobiliser with a remote key that de activates at a set distance away from the car, then just keep it seperate to your keys then the thieving scum can't take the car even if they have the keys.

None of that shit other than a new key and lock set is any good for the car in question.

The E92 M3 has EWS (imobiliser) and DWA (alarm) built into the cars electrical system and are impossible to bypass without the key.

Any aftermarket alarm or imobiliser is bypassable and i would not want of that shit mollested into my 60k car by some bodgy alarm fitter!

Trackers are so so easy to bypass if you know where they are.

Bottom line is, if you dont want your BMW (with EWS so all BMW's from the mid 90's on) going walkies, hide the keys!

The only way then is to tow it and that makes it even more obvious. The DWA system has a tilt sensor so that will trigger the alarm.

[TheHeap]

You're right about criminals going to wealthy areas, but Chorleywood is actually a really low crime area (I live in the same road as my mate). Houses don't often get burgled because of sophisticated alarm systems, dogs, wives at home during the day etc. but cars can be a different matter. Another friend had his S Class stolen from our road in the same way a few years back, they also took a Porsche in the road on the same night - both houses were broken into at night with the owners in the house. I think that people generally don't put their alarms on at night, so houses are easier to enter.
I also believe the car won't come back now. It was undoubtedly taken by the same thieves as they tried the same method of entry. He's glad to see the back of it now due to all of the recent thefts and is looking for a replacement which sadly won't be another M3.

It's a low crime area but everything gets stolen

Not sure that 4 cars in 6 years (3 really as one of them was stolen twice!) counts as 'everything gets stolen'. It's still a low crime area thankfully.

All in the same street?

[DanThe]

Whats the betting the victim had the keys in the same old place, kitchen counter etc etc

[maf260]

Absolutely spot on. That's exactly why I drive a 10 year old E46 and a 22 year old E30. Admittedly it was nowhere near the value or this chap's M3 and was never stolen but the one car I had nearly new (a '97 E36) was forever getting keyed by mindless tw@ts.

I don't agree with your approach. I wouldn't drive an old car because somebody might steal a better one, or wear a cheap watch or live in a crap house. If you spend your life worrying about it then what's the point? Buy the things you want, look after them as well as you can, use all the security you feel comfortable with and make sure it's properly insured.

Better to have memories than dreams.

To a point, but sometimes you reach a 'I don't give a toss' phase. With cars I reached this a few years ago - I like cars but not enough to have something that vermin will be trying to steal, vandalise etc. Will your mate be buying another M3?

Love the 'park it up for a few months' comment!

Sadly he won't be buying another M3 Andy. He doesn't want to be a victim again. He's really p1ssed off as he thinks there is nothing out there which can do everything the M3 can for the same money. He had a RS4 before and is now considering a C63 AMG. He's a car nut and doesn't want to drive something boring just because there are scum out there who might relieve him of it.

[maf260]

Whats the betting the victim had the keys in the same old place, kitchen counter etc etc

You're right in that he left the keys downstairs, although in a different place in a different room. The cop who came round at 4am also berated him for leaving them 'where they could be found'. He has a wife and a couple of young kids and didn't keep the keys upstairs deliberately - after the kettle incident of the first theft he knows they mean business and probably wouldn't think twice about coming upstairs to politely request his keys! The bottom line is it's terrible he's had intruders in his house whilst asleep with his family there, but it's a car and it's fully insured. The bad thing is that he won't replace it with another M3 because it's tempting fate, but he's also concerned they'll give it a few weeks and come back for whatever he's replaced it with. Upgraded security is going in as we speak and a big dog might get a new home soon!

[bss325i]

Whats the betting the victim had the keys in the same old place, kitchen counter etc etc

You're right in that he left the keys downstairs, although in a different place in a different room. The cop who came round at 4am also berated him for leaving them 'where they could be found'. He has a wife and a couple of young kids and didn't keep the keys upstairs deliberately - after the kettle incident of the first theft he knows they mean business and probably wouldn't think twice about coming upstairs to politely request his keys! The bottom line is it's terrible he's had intruders in his house whilst asleep with his family there, but it's a car and it's fully insured. The bad thing is that he won't replace it with another M3 because it's tempting fate, but he's also concerned they'll give it a few weeks and come back for whatever he's replaced it with. Upgraded security is going in as we speak and a big dog might get a new home soon!

Does he not have an alarm on his house? If yes was it not armed when they were sleeping?

[DanThe]

Why didnt he just leave the keys in the car if he was worried about them coming upstairs.
He has to be robbed 3 times before he decides to have a bit of security, not exactly the sharpest tool in the box eh.
House alarms can be had off ebay for around £100 yet he'd rather 'leave his keys where they could be found'

[Andyboy]

Upgraded security is going in as we speak and a big dog might get a new home soon!

Like the Man said, a house alarm.

In an ideal world you'd have a couple of grizly mates waiting for these bastards.
3-4 mins with a plastic bag over the head, then a one way trip to one of Norfolk's many marshes.

[DanThe]

/\ Best reason for buying a replacement M3

[tomislav]

^^^^ +1 ^^^^

[darkchild]

Gone for good this time I'm sure. Absolutely gutting for your mate. It's a real shame one can't have nice things without the concern that some thieving crunts are going to steal them.

Hands. Cut off. End.

Absolutely spot on. That's exactly why I drive a 10 year old E46 and a 22 year old E30. Admittedly it was nowhere near the value or this chap's M3 and was never stolen but the one car I had nearly new (a '97 E36) was forever getting keyed by mindless tw@ts.

I don't agree with your approach. I wouldn't drive an old car because somebody might steal a better one, or wear a cheap watch or live in a crap house. If you spend your life worrying about it then what's the point? Buy the things you want, look after them as well as you can, use all the security you feel comfortable with and make sure it's properly insured.

Better to have memories than dreams.

As Andy stated I'm at that "not giving a toss" phase with cars. Yes, I like and have an interest in them but now I'm older I can think of better ways of spending money. I'd rather have a couple of nice holidays a year and a decent record collection than have a £20K lump of depreciating steel on my driveway. I've got far more memories from traveling the world than I have from my commute to work! Waking up and finding some tw@t has vandalised your car is quite soul destroying after the 4th/5th time. Your friend has my sympathy, I can only imagine how pi$$ed off he is.

[pacerpete]

E92 M3s are council and attract undesireables who being vermin would rather steal somebody elses car than do some honest toil and buy their own.

C63 shooting brake FTW

[bss325i]

Sorry Pete but f*ck that shit!

E92 M3 Competition with DCT box. A much more serious chariot than an automatic estate.

[George]

Whats the betting the victim had the keys in the same old place, kitchen counter etc etc

You're right in that he left the keys downstairs, although in a different place in a different room. The cop who came round at 4am also berated him for leaving them 'where they could be found'. He has a wife and a couple of young kids and didn't keep the keys upstairs deliberately - after the kettle incident of the first theft he knows they mean business and probably wouldn't think twice about coming upstairs to politely request his keys!

Better for your car to be stolen than your family to come to any harm.

My dad's mate had an SL55 quite a few years back, stolen and recovered thrice (tracker). On the third theft and recovery, he gave up, sold it and bought a W124.

[pacerpete]

Sorry Pete but f*ck that shit!

E92 M3 Competition with DCT box. A much more serious chariot than an automatic estate.

Sorry Barry, E92 M3s , whilst undoubtably a weapon ,are a dealer/spiv/bruv chariot with no room for morsels.

With age will come wisdom, you'll see

[George]

Sorry Pete but f*ck that shit!

E92 M3 Competition with DCT box. A much more serious chariot than an automatic estate.

Sorry Barry, E92 M3s , whilst undoubtably a weapon ,are a dealer/spiv/bruv chariot with no room for morsels.

With age will come wisdom, you'll see

Keep your Kraut wagons. I'd rather go slower so people can see me better.