1990 m5 , 535i ac schnitzer

[polsta]

some of you remember i posted about a year ago, mate of mine bought an m5 1990 ac schnitzer, lovely car, hes not had it on the road properly yet just fleeting moments, had a full re spray and inside and out is mint now, but hes had some problems with the engine getting it firing right

he sometimes talks a bit of rubbish hes a good bloke tho

i presumed it was a normal ac schitzer one, he was going on about how it was taken to america and raced and is super sooped up, and today said "people still dont belive me (people who have worked on it for him) that its an m5 355i one of only 5 ever built"

i just wondered if anyone on here knows about them and can shed any light on it ?

with regards to it being raced in america- its got the normal cream leather interior, which is beautiful , and no roll cage or anything like that or any real race looking extras, just standard with the ac schnitzer extras, lovely car mind i cant wait to go in it once its ready, but just wondered that was all

seen them on ebay for £7-8k etc, he seems to quote figures of 35k for it ???

[pacerpete]

Sounds like he's on crack . Get us some pics so we can see how badly stoned he is !

[e30topless]

pics needed

[Felix79]

I always thought the e28 M5's were pretty low in numbers and most people mistake the M535i as it. In my recent searching of a new car I saw a genuine one for about £7000 so if it's a proper ACS it could add to the value, but by £20,000 is going to the extreme

[polsta]

so is the m5 , a 535i ? or are they different cars

its a red m5 ac schnitzer

im wondering if i got the reg, could anyone do a check to see if its ever been to america/registred there ?

what ive always wondered- is is he thinks "ac schnitzer" means it was raced/a race thing,and doesnt quite realise it was just a tuning type thing and they although rare ish, are still around

but- make no mistake she is a beauty, gleaming red,wheels are mint big old original schnitzer alloys, mint cream leather interior, obc and all the jazz inside, under the bonnet its superb condition, its a lovely car- however i suspect its justa normal ac schnitzer m5 and thats it, and not sure about all this special race tuned and america stuff

when its back at his house il take some pics, its having some engine stuff done at the moment, hes had a few problems with it and the mapping of the engine

he says its 350bhp at the moment, but was/can be 620bhp when it was raced,and hes going to have it at 500 , or something , he is a bit crazy and its hard to know what to think exactly

like you say dan- when he got it, wouldnt say how much for, he was saying the wheels were 5k worth, this was that much blah blah, ....i looked on ebay at the time,and there was a really nice one looked exact same for 7k buy it now

[pacerpete]

620 bhp !!! wow, that is some bad sh1t he is on. It is more than likely a £800 535 sport with a plethora of ebay tat . We want pics, I need to know how loud I can laugh at this sorry c0ck

[Theo]

He sounds like a monumental spesh, 'looking forward to the pics!

[jonny323i]

I always thought the e28 M5's were pretty low in numbers and most people mistake the M535i as it. In my recent searching of a new car I saw a genuine one for about £7000 so if it's a proper ACS it could add to the value, but by £20,000 is going to the extreme

its an e34 m5 isnt it on a 1990

[polsta]

620 bhp !!! wow, that is some bad sh1t he is on. It is more than likely a £800 535 sport with a plethora of ebay tat . We want pics, I need to know how loud I can laugh at this sorry c0ck

belive me its no £800 turd, i know absoloutly nothing about them, but id say its a genuine m5 from what ive seen, no ebay tat on it and all looks good to me, the wheels are monsterous schnitzer deep dish jobbies with studs round, if theyd be split rims ? beautiful wheels, the red paint was faded on bonnet and roof from storage, its got 44k on it, he says genuine (although ive not seen the paper work) , he had a full re spray on it , from a local top draw place that i shit myself when i got quotes from and saw prices, it must of cost at least £2500 for the paint job , i popped in there for a quote on a couple of little dings and a dent in the bonnet- they looked over it, writing it all down , took acouple of pictures of the dents etc, then said...a quote will be in the post , i was like wtf ?? ...letter came and it was like £1500 or something stupid i cant remember now , bonnet was a full paint job and stuff, i had the dent done by a mobile dent wizzard for £50 , that paint job there would of been top top money

the engine, is awsome to look at, all the bits along the top that move, all polished and pristine and sounds immense

i think its just a gen m5 schnitzer (which is quite a rare car anyway), the bit im unsure to belive is all this 1 of 5 built and america race jazz and he seems to think its really special, its a nice car for sure, how could you tell and find that out ? , surely if it was raced it woiuldnt have mint factory interior and would of had cages and stuff and not look 100% like a road car ?

he said hel take it to a zone meet up the hill when its done and on the road, hes just had a bit of hasstle getting the engine running perfect and tuned and mapped properly , which is whats being sorted at the moment, been to and back from a couple of places i think

as for the bhp-i know nothing about all that, he said its 350 now, and can go to 620 on the mapping and programming ,but is goin to have it around 450-500

[kieran325]

I think we need pics

[polsta]

its H reg, 1990/91 ? same as my is

to be fair to him, this is the story-

when i got my is, he loved it , hes quite competitive, he drives a shitty fucked old astra but used to be well in to his motors years ago, he build some awsome fords (i grew up with his 2 sons as mates)

and he said,my mates got an old bmw same year as that, some special m5 one and wasnt sure what it was then, and said its mint low milage in storage and ive always wanted to buy it from him but he wont have it, il get it one day, im going to get on his case , he mentioned the car a few times said the same thing he was trying to buy it and id love the car its immense

some time later (he lives next door to one of my best mates) , my mate said hes only gone n got that bmw hes been on about, but he doesnt want you to know coz it needs a bit of work and wants to keep it secret until its done and on the drive, but i saw it ,so he ment business,and it is a nice car , although i wasnt that blown away as i said "id rather an e30 m3" , and e30s are my favourite , but she is an awsome machine

[jonny323i]

if its a proper m5 he might need all the linkages on the throttle bodies recalibrating alot of garages miss that

[polsta]

I think we need pics

soon as its back il take some, ive told him about the zone, hes asked me for info on it before n see what i can find on the net, computers are alien to him, he said i can take some for here , and will bring it up the hill when its done for a meet, its been in his garage out the bad weather so now the time of year to be able to take some

[ross_jsy]

Just curious as to why you even entertain this clear c0ck end. Definitely the kind of guy who sits talking shite in the pub all day.

And please learn how to punctuate!

[Felix79]

I always thought the e28 M5's were pretty low in numbers and most people mistake the M535i as it. In my recent searching of a new car I saw a genuine one for about £7000 so if it's a proper ACS it could add to the value, but by £20,000 is going to the extreme

its an e34 m5 isnt it on a 1990

Crap I didn't notice that bit

[E30BeemerLad]

Is this guy called Burt?

[Simon13]

is this a wind up? theres more crap here than ata, and big jo can spout

[Blitz]

What does the engine look like?

This


Or this


By the way hes talking rubbish about it having that much power unless it has forced induction.

[snakebrain]

E28s came in M5 (proper) and M535i (M-branded 535i) flavours. It's not either of those.

It sounds like it might be a regular E34 M5 with Schnitzer alloys. If it's actually 300 odd bhp then most likely an M5. If it's 600bhp then he's a fantasist!

A nice clean E34 M5 is a rare thing these days and well worth having.

As Blitz says, look under the bonnet. If it says M-Power on it, it's either an M5 or it's had an M5 engine dropped in. If not, your mate's getting about 1/3 the power he's claiming!

[polsta]

What does the engine look like?

This


Or this


By the way hes talking rubbish about it having that much power unless it has forced induction.

bottom one mate, and it is gleaming and sounds fantastic and quite a sight, it is a nice car and engine, but its re assuring to hear you lot think so too , although is it 100% impossible to have it capable of 600bhp ? another mate of mine has spent a small fortune on his cosworth engine thats now some 550bhp

[polsta]

is this a wind up? theres more crap here than ata, and big jo can spout

why would it be a wind up ?

all im saying is what hes said, i know nothing about them but id say its an ac schitzer m5 in nice condition , the rest he says...im unsure about believeing, which is why i posted this thread up, it is a very nice car

[pacerpete]

It sounds like he has a 3.6 M5 with some Schnitzer /ebay tat ( it can be hard to tell the difference ! )

A good one has / had 315 BHP and prices start at £1500 for a sorry scrapper (that would be most of them ) to £4/5 K for a really nice one.

[polsta]

why does it not sound like a genuine ac schnitzer one exactly ? how could i tell if it was/wasnt ?

ive been on google but cant seem to find pics or a schnitzer one ?

[Blitz]

The only Schnitzer E34 I can find is the S5 which is an M30.

[snakebrain]

The only Schnitzer E34 I can find is the S5 which is an M30.

This.

I don't think there was such a thing as 'Schnitzer M5'. Anything apart from the wheels to indicate the Schnitzer connection?

[Steve-E30]

No reg plate yet ??

[ross_jsy]

Your friend with the Cosworth can achieve so much power because of the turbo. It is nigh on impossible to get the power your other friend is claiming from a N/A engine while still being able to use it on the road.

Again, another one going for the scrapper spec m5 with a few AC Schnitzer eBay special badges plastered on it for good measure.

Just weigh up the facts; your friend claims it had 650bhp, your friend claims it is one of 5, your friend claims it is worth £35k. To summarize it in the politest way possible: your friend talks shite.

[pacerpete]

why does it not sound like a genuine ac schnitzer one exactly ? how could i tell if it was/wasnt ?

ive been on google but cant seem to find pics or a schnitzer one ?

I am pretty certain that schnitzer didn't get involved in any s38 based E34 conversions. Obviously a victim could fit roll bars , wheels etc etc but in you mates case and bearing in mind his bad dose of verbal diarrhea, it is probably just a set of wheels and badges.

[polsta]

Your friend with the Cosworth can achieve so much power because of the turbo. It is nigh on impossible to get the power your other friend is claiming from a N/A engine while still being able to use it on the road.

Again, another one going for the scrapper spec m5 with a few AC Schnitzer eBay special badges plastered on it for good measure.

Just weigh up the facts; your friend claims it had 650bhp, your friend claims it is one of 5, your friend claims it is worth £35k. To summarize it in the politest way possible: your friend talks shite.

i think he is, like ive said mate, he sort of does and doesnt, i jsut dont know what to belive, im gunning for just a nice m5 and possibly gen acs one, LOL its far from a scrapper spec car or a piece of junk make no mistake about that, and hes not put the stuff on himself i definatly know that much, if its not a gen acs one then hes been done

[polsta]

why does it not sound like a genuine ac schnitzer one exactly ? how could i tell if it was/wasnt ?

ive been on google but cant seem to find pics or a schnitzer one ?

I am pretty certain that schnitzer didn't get involved in any s38 based E34 conversions. Obviously a victim could fit roll bars , wheels etc etc but in you mates case and bearing in mind his bad dose of verbal diarrhea, it is probably just a set of wheels and badges.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/features/ ... index.html

it says about fender arches, what are they ? i cant remember what the arches are like on his, i think just sort of like normal

[Blitz]

why does it not sound like a genuine ac schnitzer one exactly ? how could i tell if it was/wasnt ?

ive been on google but cant seem to find pics or a schnitzer one ?

I am pretty certain that schnitzer didn't get involved in any s38 based E34 conversions. Obviously a victim could fit roll bars , wheels etc etc but in you mates case and bearing in mind his bad dose of verbal diarrhea, it is probably just a set of wheels and badges.

http://www.europeancarweb.com/features/ ... index.html

it says about fender arches, what are they ? i cant remember what the arches are like on his, i think just sort of like normal

Based on a 535i though

[snakebrain]

Does it look like this?

[Kos]

KK motorsport were about the only company to invest and offer a serious engine upgrade for the s38, and that involved a 4.4 stroked engine with 450bhp. Any more power it will need a turbo or supercharger. 100 bhp per litre naturally aspirated is good, but getting over 150 per litre is going to cost stupid ammounts and be un useable. S14's can make 120 per litre in fast road spec and 150 per litre in race trim but those engine are all or nothing monsters which need a regular re builds and cost ££££

It's an m5 with some extras and that's it unless it's a jahre special edition which is very unlikely and probably impossible

[Simon13]

Does it look like this?

i thought at first this was a Lotus Carlton

[polsta]

Does it look like this?

yes the same, but red with cream interior, wheels are the same which are the ones i mentioned earlier in the thread

next time i go round my mates and its outside, il take some pics

interested in,and would be amused by the bullshit side of whats not the case as he says, as he harps on about it and the power and the stuff ive mentioned, id quite like to be able to ask him questions about it that he cant answer or that proves its no special american race car and a history check if someone on here can do ? , says its just a normal one and been in the uk all its life, its a nice machine as it is and lovely condition and a beast, so im a little bemused why he says that if its not the case