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Post Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:19 am

I'm going to be reshelling my track car after my talent running out on the ring, despite this I want more power.

My m50 leaves me struggling to keep up with my mates on trackdays, one runs a ke70 corolla with a beams engine (think s2000 engine but better) and the other a mk2 escort with a cosworth motor.

Can anyone with experience of modifying m52's give me a heads up on what mods work and expected gains. I'm aware of using the m50 inlet manifold and tb, but as I'm wanting to keep it as reliable as possible changing cams etc might not be top of my list.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Post Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:21 am

m52 with an m50 intake, some US spec cams, intake, exhaust, chip, is easy cheap and effective. What have you got done to your m50? All of these things can be done to it and it'll be pretty good as well. There is always the blower option as well :D
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Post Sun Jan 16, 2011 9:00 pm

I would say to compete with a mk2 escort powered by a cosworth lump or "anything" powered by s2000 engine it would have to be an e36 m3 engine or turbo the m50!
I've been told the m50 internals can take up to around 400bhp and being a iron block, strong enough to!or swap 2.8 (m52) internals in making it a 2.8 turb in iron block. But then there's the reliability to worry about as we all know how troublesome turbo'd lumps can be!!

If its N.A your after then swap in an e36 m3 engine, choice of 2 here but with no mods will see 300bhp and more, plenty to match your mates there :D
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:22 pm

e30-dk wrote:I would say to compete with a mk2 escort powered by a cosworth lump or "anything" powered by s2000 engine it would have to be an e36 m3 engine or turbo the m50!
I've been told the m50 internals can take up to around 400bhp and being a iron block, strong enough to!or swap 2.8 (m52) internals in making it a 2.8 turb in iron block. But then there's the reliability to worry about as we all know how troublesome turbo'd lumps can be!!

If its N.A your after then swap in an e36 m3 engine, choice of 2 here but with no mods will see 300bhp and more, plenty to match your mates there :D
Don't want to go turbo, needs to be turn key reliable. 240ish brake would be good enough for me.
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:26 pm

In that case mate its m52 all the way!
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:16 pm

Cheers for the heads up, thats impressive. I'm fairly short on time for working on the car though - I live in London and the car is 100 miles away!

What's the best I could expect from the choice bolt on mods (jesus I sound like a boy racer!) for an m52b28?
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:26 pm

In reality about 240hp, you will be down on torque though compared to a 3 litre, mine is 239lbsft with standard 2.8 cams and management as in the link. Will be having some more bits done in feb 8)
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:33 pm

DanThe wrote:In reality about 240hp, you will be down on torque though compared to a 3 litre, mine is 239lbsft with standard 2.8 cams and management as in the link. Will be having some more bits done in feb 8)
Anywhere close to your torque figure would do me, any recomendations on cams if I was to change them too?
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Post Mon Jan 17, 2011 11:49 pm

S52 cams are what you need
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:10 pm

DanThe wrote:S52 cams are what you need
Cheers Dan and if I do (last question!) will it need a remap?
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 4:50 pm

no, but you can remap it for more power :)
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:22 pm

DanThe wrote:S52 cams are what you need
Dan, do you have a part number for these as I may have come across a set which may end up in my car ! Obviously i'de like to verify correct etc
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Post Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:21 pm

IIRC Kevin your engine is non vanos, so S52 cams wont work
I have some non vanos cams for sale or swap BTW