H27 Sp update (with pictures)

[Simon13]

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[goosiegander]

just waiting for the zone team to head over and break down the door before it vanishes again lol!
good luck with saving it!

[Kedge]

Has anyone heard anymore regarding this car??

[e30topless]

did this turd survive?

[Steve-E30]

Did this thread really start 3 years ago
Thought my pc had gone funny for a mo , Where did that time go !

[magpie]

did this turd survive?

does anything slip under the radar ?

[adit]

Steve Topless...the zone meerkat

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... 80&bih=619

[magpie]

who said Fartge for sale

[glenn]

did this turd survive?

feck me steve, talk about resurrecting an old thread

[Kedge]

Been trudging through the Zone for future Wiki content and found this again.

I take it that this has gone off the radar?!?!

[steve_k]

Been trudging through the Zone for future Wiki content and found this again.

I take it that this has gone off the radar?!?!

lets hope not, would be good to see this car fully restored & back to it's former glory.

[Andyboy]

Been trudging through the Zone for future Wiki content and found this again.

I take it that this has gone off the radar?!?!

lets hope not, would be good to see this car fully restored & back to it's former glory.

If it ever existed.

[Kedge]

Well there is known to be a H27 SP built by Birds according the info James Bird posted while all the crap was kicking off over Ata's Hartge.

I'm just updating the Hartge Wiki page at the moment and I've added the info in a table on that page, http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/Hartge

[e30topless]

this is the H27 SP inlet Dave

[Kedge]

Awesome, thanks Steve. Don't think I've ever seen that pic. Would quite like some Hartge ITBs for my B28

[steve_k]

this is the H27 SP inlet Dave

they bolted the TB's straight onto the head? no manifold? i didn't think that was possible??

anymore info on it??

[maxfield]

I've seen many 'direct to head' type throttle body's.

Can't comment on the SP as I don't know anything apart from there like hens teeth

[HairyScreech]

Those throttles are custom cast Steve, no way to do that otherwise. (well apart from maybe moving studs about).

The set up could be replicated with stock bodies and some work but likely wouldn't be cheap.

edit to add - some heads with webber twin carb flanges will take throttles direct to head, otherwise the throttles are nearly always custom

[steve_k]

Those throttles are custom cast Steve, no way to do that otherwise. (well apart from maybe moving studs about).

The set up could be replicated with stock bodies and some work but likely wouldn't be cheap.

edit to add - some heads with webber twin carb flanges will take throttles direct to head, otherwise the throttles are nearly always custom

i know that weber(webcon) do an intake manifold for ITB's (lost the link ) but to buy that plus the generic ITB & K6 ecu from emerald would cost about £2400++ then the cost of mapping. IIRC turbo-brown on here had a link in his sig to the blueprints to make your own intake manifold.

[reggid]

what size throttles?

[steve_k]

what size throttles?

IIRC the emerald kit uses 45mm throttles which i would think would be too big but they do use adjustable length inlet trumpets.

here's the link

http://www.emeraldm3d.com/generic-throt ... gines.html

i only ask as i'm looking at eiher buying a ready made kit or building my own up using the diagrams/blueprint's from air-in.co.uk

what size would you say would be best??

[redcar]

What does the sp stand for?

[HairyScreech]

45 is too big unless you want to mount them ~300mm from the head, even 40 is a bit big for direct to head.
For a stock b28 direct to head you are looking around 38mm for an ideal so 40 would be your easiest bet.