Hartge H23, Resto, final touches !

[e30topless]

you selling the wheels bruv? i dont mind them too much

thats Andys old 323i isnt it

That is my old 323

it is, it's a very solid old thing I doubt it will be fragged

[pacerpete]

Looks like a nice place for an E30 meet

+1

I'm already having my own meet in there, I just added the triple 3 turd today !

Steve is a hardened E30 raper. Not many can break them down like Steve. This one is one of the lucky ones that's going back together

2 days to fully strip down, had plenty of practise with these turds.. it drove in with tax and test !

just wish it only took 2 days to build back up

Steve, glad the 333 is at last safe and sound from all the circling council types.

Gutted I missed all the action and an Ace breakfast this morning


PS; A lump of o/s wheel arch in aero silver has been found at Scratchwood services, its been handed in at the KFC .You can collect it and two bargain buckets on Saturday on the way down sarrff !

[e30topless]

Steve, glad the 333 is at last safe and sound from all the circling council types.

Gutted I missed all the action and an Ace breakfast this morning


PS; A lump of o/s wheel arch in aero silver has been found at Scratchwood services, its been handed in at the KFC .You can collect it and two bargain buckets on Saturday on the way down sarrff !

I hope it didn't hit anyone, if it did they will soon find me with the trail of rust up the M1 leading to my door

[magpie]

no hanging around on the strip down

[andreia]

you selling the wheels bruv? i dont mind them too much

thats Andys old 323i isnt it

That is my old 323

it is, it's a very solid old thing I doubt it will be fragged

I been sweting blood to put it back on the road its a briliant car to drive

[Alex]

That is my old 323

it is, it's a very solid old thing I doubt it will be fragged

I been sweting blood to put it back on the road its a briliant car to drive

glad its going to good use, looked a corker

[e30topless]

bit of an update....

the turd is due back from the paint guys tomorrow

so I guess i must get the donk ready, !

new shells and rings, the head is due back from testing , new guides ect

and I gave it a lick of paint....



I really want to make a nice torquey 2.7/2.8 donk to fit this car but I must hold back and try keep it original, it's what it deserves !

I spent a whole day putting the front bumper together, ...I knew there was a reason I hated chromie turds,

[Blitz]

You dont mess about.

[Dezzy]

Fook me Steve!!!!

You put most of us to shame

[Barx325i]

those guides Steve? did you have them ground back to the port roof?

Don't fanny around with strokers, that 2.3 is a nice revvy little machine

[e30topless]

yes, back to how they were,

it seems Hartge did a LOT of work on the 731 head, the ports are the same size as an 883 , I might use a 325i intake and tb , one thing is for sure it will be Motronic 1.3 I don't want this using the dreaded jetronic !

[Barx325i]

nicely done, that head is a bit spesh, definitely use a 2.5 intake, TB & 1.3 ..oh yes

[e30topless]

those guides Steve? did you have them ground back to the port roof?

Don't fanny around with strokers, that 2.3 is a nice revvy little machine

ok so what makes the H23 ? i can never get this straight... i know Hartge took the 323i and made is a bit special, was it stroked? or just a little head work ?

everything i have used in parts so far has been 323 stuff?

[Barx325i]

well rumour says some were taken to 2.6 but just head work, cam, 6 branch & ecu afaik, I think a re-map is in order if you go ahead, although the 2.5 ecu is adequate apparently

[e30topless]

my pics are crap the red looks orange?

fresh new Zinnobar , it really has turned out exceptional

at last i have something to bolt new bits to !!

[daimlerman]

Looks grand,be interested in seeing some shots of the Hartge modded head.

No-one would be able to tell from the outside if you do go to 2.7...

[Dezzy]

Any house hold paint been used in the re build Steve.

Sorry bad taste I know.

Test drive before Christmas Steve? Was this shell a good'n then? Any rust removal needed?

[HartgeH27]

Paperwork received ?

[Barx325i]

Looks grand,be interested in seeing some shots of the Hartge modded head.

No-one would be able to tell from the outside if you do go to 2.7...

but why ?

the h23 head is basically a 731 minus the bits that get in the way

[e30topless]

Any house hold paint been used in the re build Steve.

Sorry bad taste I know.

Test drive before Christmas Steve? Was this shell a good'n then? Any rust removal needed?

shell was good, just usual jacking points,
no house paint Dez, just the stuff they use on buses,

Paperwork received ?

yes it was Iain, many thanks for a copy of your porn collection

[e30topless]

Looks grand,be interested in seeing some shots of the Hartge modded head.

No-one would be able to tell from the outside if you do go to 2.7...

that was thought about , but i think it's best kept standard? ... I have something else for going quick

[Dezzy]

Did you find anything under the passenger seat Steve?

[e30topless]

a few sticky werthers 43p and some sort of catalogue about Council body kits and engines ?

[Dezzy]

a few sticky werthers 43p and some sort of catalogue about Council body kits and engines ?

Very good sir

[Barx325i]

good god, i found £5 in the bin outside lidl the other day, keep up

[magpie]

i'd live on site in this if had access to that place.







heating the aircraft hanger size barn might be expensive but a good old padded baby romper suit and some spanner rash should keep the cockles warm

my front garden is slowly melting and i can see a car cover through it .

[e30topless]

your welcome to bring your car down mick and work in here

[magpie]

how much is board and lodging in the hanger.

or can i charge security money

cheers for the offer though Steve.

if i ever get fed up with my conversion i'll bring the turd down to the master for a fettling.


the updates on your projects keep most of us northerners alive this time of year don't you know

[crazy1]

I looked at this car about a year ago before it had any work done to it, but it needed alot of time and work too much for me as I have a couple of projects. I wasn't sure if it had been converted from new as it had an '87 head on it, or whether it had been replaced. It has had aircon at a time but bits have been taken off it. I thought it would make a great project as all the good bit were still there which is rare, it even had original bottle top with the original Uniroyal 340 in the boot. When I looked at it, if the wrong person had got it, it would have been broke as you could have got good money for the tasty bits. Looks great keep up the good work

[e30topless]

thank you Crazy1 !

this car has certainly done the rounds, it seems that it spent some time in Ireland after being sold by a chap in Essex, it was bought from a guy in Dublin who did a "restoration" I think he rushed towards the end not realising what he had took on, !

then it was shipped back over here, it is indeed the real thing I don't need to prove this as some do with their Hartge

the Head is an 87, 731 which I found strange and thought it may have had a replacement 320i head at some point in it's life, but to my relief it has the correct stamp on the side and has been ported/re-worked

your right, it came from the factory with Air-con which will be going back in

[crazy1]

Thats good its the right head. The work was done in Belfast and thats where the guy lives that owned it. Great to see it's getting the treatment it deserves.

[magpie]

no custard tarts here Steve

[jonny323i]

i will have to check if i still have the stuff i got from birds when i had my 323i
they did do a 2.6 but i think the h23 was mostly head work

[Barx325i]

different pistons too I believe

[e30topless]

Well, a bit of an update,

been quite busy on this turd in the last week,
the Donk is almost done with new shiny bits and bolts, I love new BMW bolts I really must try the passivated thing like Trev B7 does !

it's looking Good




I need to change the whole loom on the car because the early 1985 one fitted is really sad due to Moronic Clifford/Moss/Piranha (yes it had 3 alarms) alarm installers armed with scotchblocks had molested most of it

anyway I have decided to go Motronic 1.3, and this means changing the Loom for a later model so I can have the C101 plug , managed to find a minter from a 86, (pre-face) car so no butchering required at all ! I will be "upgrading" to electric windows too

...er quite a bit of spaghetti to sort out !



the back end is coming together, the new chrome bumpers are a complete ass to get lined up properly !!




I removed the front subframe, and everything attached to it is very sad/rotten Luckily the Billy B8's are the Hartge one's and in very good order,



I have ordered everything new, I just hope it turns up before Xmas