E30 Smash

[glenn]

well........
i got the news via text yesterday afternoon
and yes, i was a little upset to hear the news, but,
the car was sold and paid for, so it was joe's to do with as he wishes.
these are the first pics i've seen of it though.
i spoke to joe after i got home from work, he told me a car pulled out at a crossroads without stopping.
as long as everyone was 'ok',
the car.....is just a car

i suppose it was time to change the sig pic anyway

[pacerpete]

well........
i got the news via text yesterday afternoon
and yes, i was a little upset to hear the news, but,
the car was sold and paid for, so it was joe's to do with as he wishes.
these are the first pics i've seen of it though.
i spoke to joe after i got home from work, he told me a car pulled out at a crossroads without stopping.
as long as everyone was 'ok',
the car.....is just a car

On a positive note, it looks like the startecs have survived !

[oldroydsr4]

That is gutting to see.

However it is quite common for somebody to spend years building a stunning car, to sell it on and have the new owner gradually ruin it or write it off.

A big wallet doesn't mean big driving ability.

[tim_s]

Terrible shame, that was such a special car

[cecotto_singh]

Any before pics. Looked like a nice car. Proper m3??

[oldroydsr4]

Out of interest how much did this sell for?

[penton08]

i would of given my left nut for that car

A big wallet doesn't mean big driving ability.

100% spot on!!

[oldroydsr4]

PNG?

Perfomance Nova Group

Maxwell - I don't know what's worst, the fact then Glenn's V8 got destroyed or the fact that your a member of the performance nova group.

[bennydotc]

That is gutting to see.

However it is quite common for somebody to spend years building a stunning car, to sell it on and have the new owner gradually ruin it or write it off.

A big wallet doesn't mean big driving ability.

Same thing happened to my old Mustang which I spent much time and money modding. The new owner wrote it off after four weeks of ownership. This led to the poor old Mussie ending it's life in a most undignified manor - the Top Gear boys got hold of it for their live MPH show and really trashed it

This was the car just before I sold it....






This was the car just after I'd sold it....








This was the car a few weeks ago after Top Gear purchased it from the breakers yard. It was only beyond economical repair so could have been put back on the road

[zaust]

↑↑↑ there here, they have landed help....

Seriously though, Glenn you must be gutted but known it was on the cards anyway due to your comment. Agreed no one killed but some idiot needs a big kick up the ass.

I suppose he was only doing 30 max !!! (yes that is sarcazum) But he did take out a french turd in the process ying yang and that.

[e30topless]

speeding in an M3 in the ice is always going to be tragic, but a V8 ! what a cock

[spook]

Trevor will be pleased about the French turd.

Shame about the M3.

[e301988325i]

Considering the speed we all think this happened at, the overall integrity of the passenger compartment does reassure me.

[brettski]

What a waste of an awesome car. Are you going to try and buy it back for the parts glenn?

[glenn]

What a waste of an awesome car. Are you going to try and buy it back for the parts glenn?

the car has nothing to do with me now, it was sold to someone a few weeks ago, although, i have shown interest with the owner for some parts, should he decide to buy it back and break it.

cheers

[Andy325i]

Gutted for Glenn, hope all involed were not seriously hurt.

Andy

[adit]

did this happen in the North-East?

[craigieeb]

Fuckin waste of a lovely machine

knobend!

**edited**

[Barx325i]

nobend!

quite a big bend IMO

[harry_p]

to be fair, the speed wouldnt have to be massive, someone driving straight into your path whilst you're doing 30mph with no chance to react could easily do that sort of damage. it looks like the main impact was just in front of the front wheel, meaning the wheel and lower a-pillar become the crumple zones instead of the bumper and front chassis rails that are designed to adsorb impacts.

just look at the damage done to modern cars in the 40mph deformable offset impact ncap tests. lower the speed a bit and offeset the barrier even more and you'd get pretty similar results.

sure, the onwer may well have been driving like a tosser, speeding, showing off etc but without knowing the circumstances it's a little unfair to jump to conclusions.

it's a sad sight whatever the cause though

[Barx325i]

sorry, Harry, did you notice the roofline?

I appreciate where you're coming from but, there's no way a 30mph impact could create that.

obviously the car is low, so the ability to ride up over is lessened & thus transferring energy up the chassis to the roof. If that was the result of a 30mph impact, I'd sell your m3 in favour of a renault!

[harry_p]

really?

look at the roofline of this e36 (a newer, stronger design than the e30) the crash is at 40mph, but the barrier strikes 50% of the width of the car so the front end is adsorbing a lot of the impact, which going by how lopsided the damage is didnt happen to the e30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obdtYlqV ... re=related

the damage done to that e30 could easily have been done at an impact speed of less than 40mph imho.

[Barx325i]

sure, but pause at 5 seconds.. Take into account the test has crushable media which is held by an immovable wall representing a larger, more solid vehicle - the car the e30 hit was a clio which would be shunted away from the impact. It wasn't a square on, which allows the engine to transfer the energy through a much larger area but even so it doesn't represent a 25-30mph smash.

[robbo86]

Should T-Cut out

[e21Jason]

Did any body see top gear were the dons a crash with a volvo 740 into a renualt modus. The Modus ate the the volvo which looked worse that that e30 and they could open and close the doors Modus okay

Jason

[robbo86]

Wasnt it a Megane?

[dips346]

oh well

[DanThe]

Did any body see top gear were the dons a crash with a volvo 740 into a renualt modus. The Modus ate the the volvo which looked worse that that e30 and they could open and close the doors Modus okay

Jason

Here -

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[mrLEE30]

i love the way everyone is so self righteous when they assume another driver has crashed due to high speed, i am willing to bet a small amount of money that none of the arm chair commentators have ever exceeded 30mph.

Glenn clearly says someone pulled out, and driving into something very solid even at 30mph will damage a car like this, especially an older car that does not crease up and absorb the impact like a modern. i was rear ended while stationary in a 318is in Belgium, at less than jogging pace, it bent the exhaust and the roof... my point is E30's can crease.

Good to know the car occupants are OK, shame the car is now fit for some spares.

mrlee

[craigieeb]

Thing is tho Mrlee
the guy driving it has admitted to driving fast,
so in theory, yeah it was caused by excessive speed,
if he got to that junction a bit later,
the clio would of been going up the road rather than pulling out on him,

and yeah your probably right some of us "armchair contenders" might have went over the speed limit
but what of it,

the guys a numpty for buying such a weapon and not knowing it's full potential,

he's only had it a couple of weeks,
there's no way he knew the car inside and out,
or knew it's capability's

as said before,
he probably went.........

"look at this lads"

Bang... crash... wallop

[Barx325i]

took me a good few months to get fully acquainted with my £700 325i, mind you I did buy it in the winter. I respected its rwdiness 100% with its 14" steelies & remoulds & 17yr old suspension etc.

Far more entertaining than an outright performance setup, then I started to realise that the old girl wasn't just a pretty face & so I threw on the billies, eibachs & 15's my mates type RA scooby fell victim to it. That was a monumental occasion.

I do a steady 30 in the 30's, 40 in the 40's, don't see so many 50's ...erm yes

[Jon_Bmw]

,
if he got to that junction a bit later,
the clio would of been going up the road rather than pulling out on him,

That is carp though.

By the same logic...

If he was going a bit faster he would have cleared the clio too.

[craigieeb]

By the same logic...

If he was going a bit faster he would have cleared the clio too.

Yip
just shows he dint know the car well enough

[e301988325i]

By the same logic...

If he was going a bit faster he would have cleared the clio too.

Yip
just shows he dint know the car well enough

I always overtake drivers who show terrible control or weaving, they can go and crash behind me thank you very much, even on the motorway I will increase my speed to put a decent distance between myself and a muppet. (don't even bother suggesting I should slow down and let them get ahead)

[hongkongfuey]

the kind police man reminded me that you should give dangerous drivers more room, pull over if needsbe,

at the end of the day as i said, if people drive like d1cks let them smash, if an accident then hope they are ok,

and for this bloke i think , after spending a couple of quid on this car, and only he will know how fast he was or was not going, i think he will be hurting right now poss in more than one way