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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:01 pm

emdog16 wrote:LEARN HOW TO DRIVE IN THE SNOWWW! It's all I did 4 months out of the year in Canada! Teaches you good car control.
How good did you get?
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:33 pm

my e30 got stuck at a speed bump! eventually it took about 6000 revs and a quick clutch release,

my main fear is them ediats that come up ur ass thinkin there gangsta, and think there safe cause they got a fucking 4x4 ! :-x

very scared for the safety of my e30 im even contemplating using the bus 8O
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:51 pm

alexdejonghe wrote:Lets keep our E30's parked-up safely in our garage's/drives this snowy winter for both our saftey and the cars.
This isn't only aimed at the OP, but.................



What a load of bollocks! :(
As someone who is lucky enough to be old enough to have been brought-up on a diet of RWD rightness, I relish the thought of getting out in the E30 in any weather. My car gets used 365 days a year (or it does when I'm not having to replace engines, get it resprayed, etc). Last winter, just as the weather got really bad, the week before Christmas, I did 2 600+ mile a day round trips within a week. The only drama I had was on one trip when I got within 30 miles of home and the A19 was shut for an hour because someone in a modern FWD pile of shite ran out of talant and stacked it.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:01 pm

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alexdejonghe wrote:Lets keep our E30's parked-up safely in our garage's/drives this snowy winter for both our saftey and the cars.
This isn't only aimed at the OP, but.................



What a load of bollocks! :(
As someone who is lucky enough to be old enough to have been brought-up on a diet of RWD rightness, I relish the thought of getting out in the E30 in any weather. My car gets used 365 days a year (or it does when I'm not having to replace engines, get it resprayed, etc). Last winter, just as the weather got really bad, the week before Christmas, I did 2 600+ mile a day round trips within a week. The only drama I had was on one trip when I got within 30 miles of home and the A19 was shut for an hour because someone in a modern FWD pile of shite ran out of talant and stacked it.
what about all the salt on the roads? going to do a hell of alot of damage to the underside of the car. Given how much it costs to sort out rust and the time involved. I like learning to drift as well.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:26 pm

pony wrote:
StuBeeDoo wrote:
alexdejonghe wrote:Lets keep our E30's parked-up safely in our garage's/drives this snowy winter for both our saftey and the cars.
This isn't only aimed at the OP, but.................



What a load of bollocks! :(
As someone who is lucky enough to be old enough to have been brought-up on a diet of RWD rightness, I relish the thought of getting out in the E30 in any weather. My car gets used 365 days a year (or it does when I'm not having to replace engines, get it resprayed, etc). Last winter, just as the weather got really bad, the week before Christmas, I did 2 600+ mile a day round trips within a week. The only drama I had was on one trip when I got within 30 miles of home and the A19 was shut for an hour because someone in a modern FWD pile of shite ran out of talant and stacked it.
what about all the salt on the roads? going to do a hell of alot of damage to the underside of the car. Given how much it costs to sort out rust and the time involved. I like learning to drift as well.
Just clean it out every so often.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:43 pm

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Snow + E30 = fun
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:05 pm

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pony wrote:
StuBeeDoo wrote: This isn't only aimed at the OP, but.................



What a load of bollocks! :(
As someone who is lucky enough to be old enough to have been brought-up on a diet of RWD rightness, I relish the thought of getting out in the E30 in any weather. My car gets used 365 days a year (or it does when I'm not having to replace engines, get it resprayed, etc). Last winter, just as the weather got really bad, the week before Christmas, I did 2 600+ mile a day round trips within a week. The only drama I had was on one trip when I got within 30 miles of home and the A19 was shut for an hour because someone in a modern FWD pile of shite ran out of talant and stacked it.
what about all the salt on the roads? going to do a hell of alot of damage to the underside of the car. Given how much it costs to sort out rust and the time involved. I like learning to drift as well.
Just clean it out every so often.
how am i supposed to wash the underside?

the "polish" hand car wash i go they use jet washes. I tell them to do under the wheel arches and side skirts but this wont get all the salt off i do not believe.

I think the only way to get it all off is to take all the wheels off and clean by hand yourself. Hiring a ramp and just doing it yourself which takes probably half a day plus the inconveninence of hiring a ramp, getting clothes to wash, getting wet, changing clothes etc.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:08 pm

anyone who owns a near decent E30 will have it tucked away I would imagine, ?
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:20 pm

Not really a problem for me. Where I live in Kent juts out into the English channel/North Sea so while we have been having snow, its been real half arsed crap thats gone by 10am!
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:31 pm

robbo86 wrote:Not really a problem for me. Where I live in Kent juts out into the English channel/North Sea so while we have been having snow, its been real half arsed crap thats gone by 10am!

Living near a coast no matter which country is actually worse for a car structurally due to corrosion and rust. This is because of the salt content from the sea water I believe.

Morale of the story:
Provided you want to cherish and preserve your car DO NOT LIVE NEAR the sea. If you really want to cherish and preserve it do not live near the sea.
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:49 pm

Was talking more about the snow then the salt of the air! Coastal air is good for you. I often try and tell myself that while chasing my hat along the clifftop in a force 3!
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kieran325 wrote:I've just nailed it at 125mph, never once felt the back end out :teehee:

you have balls my friend.....

....if you stop posting on this forum in a couple of days tho, we know why! RIP
It's easy, I had a pot of tea and a cherry bakewell whilst reading the Telegraph. I broke a few times to 110mph but cranked it wide open again, no weather will stop me :D

I had a clear road ahead and nothing gets in my way at that speed and if they do, there's not much left :wink:
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e30topless wrote:anyone who owns a near decent E30 will have it tucked away I would imagine, ?
Correct, both mine are wrapped up for winter on trickle charge 8)
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My E30 is a champ in the snow. Fair enough anything more than a mild incline if its covered in snow is no go, but regular roads are no problem. I also reckon RWD is good for snow, the rears seem to get more traction with a push than a pull. I saw loads of light weight FWDs struggling to get traction whereas the bimmer squats and goes. And slides are so much more fun :) The RWDs you seeing flailing around and spinning up are all autos, mostly mercs.

This is on summer tyres, but I've got some chains on order from ebay hopefully will arrive this week, then she'll be unstoppable :D (You only need to fit chains to the driven wheels).

Fair enough I wouldn't take a mint sport out in this weather but my touring aint a show pony, but it is the nuts :cool:
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alexdejonghe wrote:
kieran325 wrote:I've just nailed it at 125mph, never once felt the back end out :teehee:

you have balls my friend.....

....if you stop posting on this forum in a couple of days tho, we know why! RIP
It's easy, I had a pot of tea and a cherry bakewell whilst reading the Telegraph. I broke a few times to 110mph but cranked it wide open again, no weather will stop me :D

I had a clear road ahead and nothing gets in my way at that speed and if they do, there's not much left :wink:
You actually did 125mph? What conditions were the roads?
Which roads was it presumably a motorway?

I have done a GPS verfied 151mph in my old E46 323Ci Coupe though the BMW 3 series Coupe brochure quotes the top speed as 145mph.
I have done a "indicated 129mph" in my E30 325i Sport.
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robbo86 wrote:Not really a problem for me. Where I live in Kent juts out into the English channel/North Sea so while we have been having snow, its been real half arsed crap thats gone by 10am!
Snow was crazy today in Hastings, though we don't get the north sea round this corner...
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It was snowing heavy and visibility was reduced, even my horn iced up.

I travelled through a few counties, some were a blip.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 12:16 am

bpowell555 wrote:My E30 is a champ in the snow. Fair enough anything more than a mild incline if its covered in snow is no go, but regular roads are no problem. I also reckon RWD is good for snow, the rears seem to get more traction with a push than a pull. I saw loads of light weight FWDs struggling to get traction whereas the bimmer squats and goes. And slides are so much more fun :) The RWDs you seeing flailing around and spinning up are all autos, mostly mercs.

This is on summer tyres, but I've got some chains on order from ebay hopefully will arrive this week, then she'll be unstoppable :D (You only need to fit chains to the driven wheels).

Fair enough I wouldn't take a mint sport out in this weather but my touring aint a show pony, but it is the nuts :cool:
RWD are better in snow than FWD because when you accelerate there is a dynamic weight transfer to the rear aiding traction in RWD reducing traction in FWD.

Lowering tyre pressures will help as increase contact patch area. Winter tyres with snow chains will help. Snow tyres will help.

I find when driving in a RWD inclines can be a problem if i have to stop especially as you lose momentum. I think if you gather some speed provided you dont need to reapply much throttle during this hill it could be possibly alright. Have not had enough experience to verify this in snow conditions.

Do you now worry applying full throttle in a straight line and the car wanting to snap sideways?

Today when i was driving to work I got overtaken my one of those really small vans UPHILL!!!! How the hell did that happen????

The car wanted to go sideways in a straight line. Braking was not too bad provided i braked early.

TELL YOU WHAT I HAD SO SO SO SO MUCH FUN LAST YEAR IN MY E46 323Ci IN THE SNOW WITH ASC OFF. I NEARLY CREAMED MYSELF.
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Certainly interesting on the drive to work. Autobox in 3, moving on the creep, didn't have any major drama. I did notice that on snow, there wasn't a huge issue, once it had become iced slushed - that was somewhat more slippery. Second roundabout out of work today required a 'dab of oppo'.

My major gripe is how they've cleaned all the car parks of snow!! Where am I supposed to go and play? :evil: :roll:
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pony wrote:RWD are better in snow than FWD because when you accelerate there is a dynamic weight transfer to the rear aiding traction in RWD reducing traction in FWD.
Fnck yea!
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pony wrote:RWD are better in snow than FWD because when you accelerate there is a dynamic weight transfer to the rear aiding traction in RWD reducing traction in FWD.
Fnck yea!
4WD is best for traction.
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:32 am

Hardly any snow at all here ( looks like Scarface sneezed at best ) but the roads were not gritted which left them leathal. On my way home last night I lost traction a few times , which in mine at the best of times is a brown trouser moment.
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5six7eight wrote:The Touring is our cheap and cheerful run about, I'd rather be out in that when there is an increased risk of people crashing into you than in the 6er.

After last year I wanted to give winter tyres a try so I bought 4 Kumho KW23's for £150 delivered! These have gone onto sme 15" BBS that I bought from Adit for £120 and had refurbed for another £150. To put them onto the 6er would have cost over £1100 for tyres alone so a bit of no brainer.

For anyone keen to see just how good winter tyres can be... watch this:
where did you get your bbs re-furbed? i tried lots of places but kept getting quoted silly money for them
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well we have had another foot (non of this cm crap) on top of the 6" we had yesterday and I aint going nowhere...especially as I am at the top of a hill .

diving in snow is all about momentum and gentleness ..once you have got movement get in as high a gear as possible and do not accelerate ...just wish the car faster as any excess of right foot will just break adhesion. Try not to stop for anything especially going up a hill and try not to use the brake just use the gears to slow down and if you have to use the brakes gently and in a straight line and in an E30 have a bag of cement in the boot as well as a couple of strips of carpet to put under the wheels if you get stuck...and a spade!

its fun out there especially in the snow... been doing it for too long now and if you live in Sheffield
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:16 am

Is the snow that deep you can dive into it ^^^ winkeye
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:22 am

I wonder what 185/65/14 would look be like on bottletops.....

http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Nokian/WRG2.htm
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:54 am

I've put 185.65/15s onto 15" BBS, will go and get a picture if you want. Personally I think they look fine!

Running those Nokians would see you still mobile all winter round. WAtch the link I posted earlier to see how good proper winter rubber is on ice.
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It's official, I'm stuck :?

I had fun last night on the way home from work, I had my own playground at midnight on the estate :P

Now it's stuck and I've resigned myself to catching the peasant carrier, I'll be able to speak 4 languages by the end of the week, roll a spliff on the back seat, mug someone and smell of stale piss all before work, oh what joy!!
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I wish I had another car :(
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kieran325 wrote:I had a clear road ahead
? :)
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kieran325 wrote:It's official, I'm stuck :?

I had fun last night on the way home from work, I had my own playground at midnight on the estate :P

Now it's stuck and I've resigned myself to catching the peasant carrier, I'll be able to speak 4 languages by the end of the week, roll a spliff on the back seat, mug someone and smell of stale pee pee all before work, oh what joy!!
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kieran325 wrote:It's official, I'm stuck :?

I had fun last night on the way home from work, I had my own playground at midnight on the estate :P

Now it's stuck and I've resigned myself to catching the peasant carrier, I'll be able to speak 4 languages by the end of the week, roll a spliff on the back seat, mug someone and smell of stale pee pee all before work, oh what joy!!
Ah....I think i remember some sensible, cautious (handsome) individual warning you of such problems.....

....now, what was his name.....?

:roll:


Perhaps we should all own several E30's.....one to tart up and spend our hard earned cash on.....and one cheapie to rag around in the snow in.....

We need a new topic in the forum section advertising cheap E30 snow drifters!

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GemE30 wrote:I wish I had another car :(
Running two cars needn't be massively expensive....

...for a coupla hundred get yourself a little supermini (under £60/6mths on tax) for peanuts on insurance (monthly, if neccassary)...and then you have a fall back, whatever the weather...

Upkeep of two cars doesn't really cost me anymore than having one. Plus, those little supermini's, for learner drivers dont really lose their value too quickly.
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alexdejonghe wrote:
kieran325 wrote:It's official, I'm stuck :?

I had fun last night on the way home from work, I had my own playground at midnight on the estate :P

Now it's stuck and I've resigned myself to catching the peasant carrier, I'll be able to speak 4 languages by the end of the week, roll a spliff on the back seat, mug someone and smell of stale pee pee all before work, oh what joy!!
Ah....I think i remember some sensible, cautious (handsome) individual warning you of such problems.....

....now, what was his name.....?

:roll:
Yeah your right, but I'm going to do it again later :roll: :teehee:
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