S54'd e30 (FLORIDA)

[glenn]

looking good mate,
pm replied

[Dave_M3]

Sweet!!!

Mine looked alot tidier with no loom attached to it the first time I put it in as it was all disconnected when I got it.

What flywheel have you decided on?

[turk]

Gone for original m3 flywheel and pressure plate... can find the bloody nuts for the fecker tho

[Dave_M3]

Gone for original m3 flywheel and pressure plate... can find the bloody nuts for the fecker tho

Any bolts from an E36 or anything with a dual-mass flywheel will do if you can't find them.

I think its a sign to get a TTV fly though

[turk]

but i cant find any anywhere......

Im off to hunt for some

[UweM3]

but i cant find any anywhere......

Im off to hunt for some

sorry if this is a dumb question, what is so special about them?

[turk]

Nothin. I just dont have any

[turk]

Does it matter if I use hex bolts on the clutch plate> flywheel. I know the ones they're meant to be are Alans but doesnt seem to be fouling anything.

Also I am not happy with the big 30 mm gap between the engine and firewall, even though its sitting on the mounts perfect, the angle (as in linear> engine to back of car etc)

Hmmmmmmm. I know some have used the larger e46 mounts which do look manlier! Info pls

[DanThe]

Its more about the bolt strength than what type of bolt it is, why dont you just order some from BMW? Correct length/strength and also come with thread lock pre-applied

[Dave_M3]

Does it matter if I use hex bolts on the clutch plate> flywheel. I know the ones they're meant to be are Alans but doesnt seem to be fouling anything.

Also I am not happy with the big 30 mm gap between the engine and firewall, even though its sitting on the mounts perfect, the angle (as in linear> engine to back of car etc)

Hmmmmmmm. I know some have used the larger e46 mounts which do look manlier! Info pls

No 30mm gap on my engine.... actually its a -160mm gap to the bulkhead


I'm not too sure what you mean by the angle... do you mean the engine is sitting in crooked?

You possibly have the rubber mounts turned the wrong way, have you got the AKG ones or still using the E34 ones.

Mine was sitting perfectly with some used but still perfect E34 M50 mounts I ha lying around just for test fitting etc until I get the AKG ones.


I'm using custom mounts now however based on E36 mounts but also bolt upto all the holes available so no chance of them moving about on the block or fear of them not looking manly enough:D

If you feel you need the E46 M3 mounts, give me a shout and I can send you over mine if you can't find any on your side of the pond.

[turk]

I have e46 m3 mounts here, Havnt tried em yet. Theyre a hell of a lot higher then the m353i ones, which would consequently make the engine sit higher. which may not be a problem, but also look too wide to be able to match the holes without fouling the chassis rail.

When I say the engine is off angle, I mean if u were to measure the space between the right and left side of the engine to the front where the rad sits, the right side (from inside the car) is about 2 cm closer then the other. It could be the mount but i ran out of patience so left it for another day and started playing witht electrics instead.

[turk]

Due to my Gearbox being sooo tight in the tranny tunnel it will be impossible to bleed the fucker, so im considering extenting the bleed nipple of the slave cylinder to a more reachable remote location, was planning on plumbing into the original nipple hole and creating some sort of tap on the other end...

Do we think this will work? any ideas

[DanThe]

Its not impossible, ive managed to remove the slave on mine, with the slave out its easy to bleed

[turk]

Surely if I just got a bit of copper and flared the ends with the right thread nuts, brought it down the side if the box and made up a nut with a female thread the same as a bleed nipple in theory it should be fine right?

[DanThe]

The bleeder needs to be at the highest point

[turk]

Shouldnt be too hard to do. Could bring it up into the engine bay keeping it high...

[UweM3]

Shouldnt be too hard to do. Could bring it up into the engine bay keeping it high...

in 8 years of driving the M3 I have bled the clutch hhmmmmm ONCE!

so it may be worth to scrape your knuckles once before making a complicated construction which you won't touch for a long time.

[DanThe]

/\ This /\

[turk]

O.....K.....!!!

[DanThe]

[turk]

What do we think of these: http://www.revshift.com/shop/index.php? ... oductId=67

this is my gap as it stands, i havnt had a proper fiddle with the mounts yet but hopefully it dorts it...


can anyone tell me where these go? There is nothing Ive got they'll plug into, poss something on the car?


looks right at home if u ask me

[glenn]

can anyone tell me where these go? There is nothing Ive got they'll plug into, poss something on the car?

where abouts on the loom are they?

[turk]

they come off near the large round plug(smg plug I think), near with what look like the rear 02 sensor plugs.

[glenn]

would they reach to where the air-pump would be?
roughly where the e46 m3 header tank would be

[turk]

Nope, the airpump has a fairly hefty 2 pin plug which im gonna have to make up as thats not on the loom either, but these are female 4pin and look very thin. can only imagine them pklugging into some sort of measuring unit like a temp sensor or similar. doesnt look like theyd carry much current. Im probably wrong mind usually am!

Ps!, did u reuse the electric pumps on the heater pipes? didnt know if they were to be used with the e30 heater matrix

[glenn]

no, i ran the coolant/matrix pipes in a similar way to a s50 conversion

[turk]

so u just took them off and stuck em straight onto the matrix pipes on bulkhead? does it matter feed/return top/bottom?

[turk]

im considering these mounts, what do we think????

http://www.revshift.com/shop/index.php? ... oductId=67

[GermanGorilla]

Hi,

I am assuming your going to 'push' that
S54 back so that the rear face of the head
is very close to the bulkhead/heater cover plate ?

At around 190 kgs in standard, you want the
6 cylinders as far back in an E30 as you can
possibly get it, no matter how hard it is.

On engine mounts are those Shore 80 Poly ?

If so they will work but will twist a lot.

For a Road car, you can use the BMW E28 M5
round rubber mount on the exhaust side and
an E36 M3 Evo on the intake side.

Rotataing them through 180 deg should get that engine
back to a better position in the engine bay.
If not you can rotate them backwards till your as
far back as it will go, and then drill some new locating
holes in the subframe engine mount plates so that the
anti twist spigots locate to stop them rotating.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[turk]

I had never considered drilling new holes... I will be trying to get the engine as far back as possible of corse, just havnt had the time to play lately.

I have these mounts spare, is this what u are referring to as the evo ones?



They are a lot taller then the e28 ones, hence it would push up the inlet side.

If u have done any drilling before have u got any pix?

[GermanGorilla]

Hi,

No I do not have any pics but have
done it a few times now.

The further back the engine the better
the steering clearance.

You should also fit the E30 M3 Front subframe
gussets that fit to the underside of
the subframe if thats a std E30 one ?

You will see them at Turners, Vac and BMW2002
and AKGMotorsport Websites.

AKG do some good mounts as well.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[turk]

So if im understanding u right, i need to drill a new hole (and weld a reinforcement plate around it) somewhere between the exiting hole and the wishbone nut?

should i yank the engine back first and see how far back it will come or set the hole in a position where it wont foul the wishbone nut and twist and beat the engine into submission?

[GermanGorilla]

Hi,

No, the reinforcing plate is welded underneath.

You do not want to raise the top 'flat' that the
engine mount bolts through, otherwise you
would be 'rasing up the engine'' thats why you
weld the plate/gusset in underneath.

In welded it in underneath, make sure
the 'new' plate is tight against the flat surface,
you can the drill you locating hole where ever you
require it.

Make sure the plate/gusset is not to thick as
the thread on the bottom of the engine mount
will not be long enough.

Regards,

The Gorilla.

[turk]

how do i ensure the engine is perfectly lined up??? as in the crank, to the box, to the driveshaft is aligned as well as possible? presumably as long as i drill the new holes on the subframe equal distances from the original everything should line up perfectly?

[turk]

is this a auto box ecu or engine ecu?


I seem to have 2, one on each side of the dash, Any ideas?