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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:31 pm

Got to be done really ive never done it since having the car and it cant hurt it being there and that big tin only cost me £10 :D
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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 7:59 pm

mine was £20 8O
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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:07 pm

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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:20 pm

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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:30 pm

Right then ive decided im doing the rack tomorrow but one thing i need to no which side do the spacers fit on top of the rack or the bottom? I know with the Danthe linkadge it has to be in the rear holes of the cross member
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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:34 pm

Mate you MUST put the spacers on the top. Otherwise it rubs on the sump. Bolts up from the bottom nuts on top. That makes life easier if you need to move the rack about for pipes etc. :D
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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:55 pm

Sound im only chucking it on ive not got the engine in yet got to get the gearbox off Dan first and then its time to chuck it in the hole :)
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Post Thu Oct 07, 2010 11:56 pm

Looking forward to seeing it finished :D
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Post Fri Oct 08, 2010 9:56 am

Dezzy wrote:Looking forward to seeing it finished :D
And me it a long time since ive drove this car and its starting to get tome now that Golf is. I should be starting back to full time work on the 23rd of October to so im in with a fighting chance of having funds to sort it out properly :)
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Post Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:12 pm

town325i wrote:Got to be done really ive never done it since having the car and it cant hurt it being there and that big tin only cost me £10 :D
Where from? I did mine after seeing this but ran out of the Hammerite with Waxoyl can! I only got the drivers side rear done!
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Post Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:27 pm

I get mine from my local motorfactors as you can see its not the hammerite stuff im using when i bought it on trade it was 50% mark up
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:58 pm

Started on the front of the car today bit of bad news for me the welder has to come out to sort some bits out in the engine bay at the same time meaning though im going to have to paint it im going to get rid of bits that arnt needed like the coil hanger and the bit that the relays are clipped to also before it gets painted i can fabricate or even get Dan to a E36 air box hanger :D

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Oh well at least the bay will look better in the long run just a shame i have to weld a tidy car but needs must.

At least i had time to treat the other side to some waxoyl as that is pretty good and no rust :D
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Thats it for today as im going to see Stiff little fingures tonight and meeting my mrs brother in west brom at 3 :D
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:07 pm

didn't know slf are still going 8O .
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:27 pm

That's a shame Mark, I'd do something about that rear arch whilst it's in its early stages.
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:30 pm

magpie wrote:didn't know slf are still going 8O .
This is the 4th time ive been to see then got the Damned next month and Motorhead :D
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:31 pm

Ollie_bwoii wrote:That's a shame Mark, I'd do something about that rear arch whilst it's in its early stages.
It is a bit but its one of the common places E30's go so it will get sorted and the wheel arches are on the list to but there is no point preping them until i have all the paint and materials to sort them out :D
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:10 pm

The panel that the air con dryer sits in is pretty cheap from BMW IIRC, easier to just stick the whole panel in then build the bits of arch up

Modding the bay for 24v is the way to go :D
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:50 pm

Nothing to get upset about in there town. :D
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:11 pm

just a quickie... why put waxoyl over underseal? it'll do nothing as the underseal, primer etcetc is between?
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:32 pm

I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:15 pm

Looks good Mark, that is minimal welding though and you couldn't exactly leave it could you!

There aren't many E30's that don't require attention so its not like its a big issue really

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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:41 pm

Waxoil does nothing. That's a new one on me.

I better start removing it from all the usual places on mine then. That's going to be easy. :?
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Post Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:10 pm

DanThe wrote:Modding the bay for 24v is the way to go :D
:D :D :D
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:02 am

DanThe wrote:I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
underseal/stonechip etcetc is on the car as std correct? looks like he's just put waxoyl over the underseal... underseal should provided water barrier aswell (thats what its there for afterall) waxoyl for inside sills, box section etcetc but under the wheelarches? really!?
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:29 am

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DanThe wrote:I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
underseal/stonechip etcetc is on the car as std correct? looks like he's just put waxoyl over the underseal... underseal should provided water barrier aswell (thats what its there for afterall) waxoyl for inside sills, box section etcetc but under the wheelarches? really!?
a waxy substance on top of anything will give better corrosion protection than nothing. i wouldn't use waxoyl myself but it's better than nowt.
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:29 am

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DanThe wrote:I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
underseal/stonechip etcetc is on the car as std correct? looks like he's just put waxoyl over the underseal... underseal should provided water barrier aswell (thats what its there for afterall) waxoyl for inside sills, box section etcetc but under the wheelarches? really!?
Well it wil provide another water proof barrier on top of the under seal It better to have to much than too little come back in 5 years when yours is fooked and mine is still living 8O
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:44 am

nickso wrote:
a waxy substance on top of anything will give better corrosion protection than nothing. i wouldn't use waxoyl myself but it's better than nowt.
What would you use instead?
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:27 pm

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DanThe wrote:Modding the bay for 24v is the way to go :D
:D :D :D
Paul it was your car being done like this that gave me the idea or was it Matt's M3 :D
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:38 pm

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DanThe wrote:I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
underseal/stonechip etcetc is on the car as std correct? looks like he's just put waxoyl over the underseal... underseal should provided water barrier aswell (thats what its there for afterall) waxoyl for inside sills, box section etcetc but under the wheelarches? really!?
See this -

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The whole of my car is plastered in waxoil the same, obviously when the car was new the owner had it done (hero)

Which is why after a clean the arches look like this -

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If you think underseal is better you are very wrong and your car is probably rusty :)
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:53 pm

I wish they all did it back in the day with new E30's they wouldn't all be rusty turds now :cry:
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Post Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:40 pm

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VW-will wrote:
DanThe wrote:I didnt see any mention of underseal being applied? Waxoil gives a clear water resistant barrier so I dont see how you can say it will do nothing
underseal/stonechip etcetc is on the car as std correct? looks like he's just put waxoyl over the underseal... underseal should provided water barrier aswell (thats what its there for afterall) waxoyl for inside sills, box section etcetc but under the wheelarches? really!?
See this -

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The whole of my car is plastered in waxoil the same, obviously when the car was new the owner had it done (hero)

Which is why after a clean the arches look like this -

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If you think underseal is better you are very wrong and your car is probably rusty :)
My car will never be as nice as yours Dan but im trying to get it the best i can so im happy with it :D
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Post Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:22 pm

underseal . its good for growing rust. i restored a fiat strada 130tc in 2001 and used 10 litres of underseal. a year later i was under the car scraping it off in big lumps with a wallpaper scrapper. its rubbish i would never use underseal on a car again . it just held water inbetween its self and the freshly welded parts and made them very rusty.
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Post Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:30 pm

you have to prime the parts first.... cant just put it onto bare metal
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Post Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:37 pm

primed or not it was still getting water trapped under it.
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Post Wed Oct 13, 2010 10:40 pm

Primer is porous so wont make a blind bit of difference

Underseal is only any good for covering up gash repairs on rusty old shitters that are in desperate need of one last MOT..