Benefits of a intercooler on a turbo car

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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:00 pm

As above what would be the benefits of fitting a intercooler?
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Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:05 pm

With air passing through the intercooler after being recycled from the turbo it cools the flow of air being forced into the intake manifold, making more for horse's from the engine.

The reason for more hp's is when the air leaves the turbo it has expanded due to the heat and the intake cant take the high volumes for this reason, cooling it down with an intercooler in the loop means you can force a bigger volume of air into the intake meaning a larger amount of air and fuel will be combusted per cycle in the engine, creating an increase in engine power.
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Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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DanThe wrote:Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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DanThe wrote:Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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That's wack but I bet its quick off the mark.
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:20 am

because cooler air is denser and therefore the cooler the air the more bhp you can make but fit a too large ic then you get huge turbo lag
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e30shed wrote:
DanThe wrote:Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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it is an A bortion :D
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the audi logo needs to be changed to baby ....................

the turbo does the job of it sucking the unwanted out, beats using a wire coat hanger to hook it out :D

ok, i should behave now. no more sick jokes
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just what is on you mind.

Go on you can tell us winkeye
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nothing at all lol

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Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:04 pm

As already mentioned, the compressor in the turbocharger compresses the air which significantly increases the temperature. Engines produce more power with colder air (hence 'cold air feed') and colder air is more dense - this being the key word here.
An intercooler can be used within the turbocharger system to cool the compressed air thus increasing the density. This can be of an air to liquid type or air to air type, and obviously must be mounted somewhere where cold air is going to reach it, i.e. no where near any hot part of the engine, which is why intercoolers are often seen at the bottom of the front of the car.
However intecooler efficiency must be good and size must be taken into account for the amount of flow you are expecting / aiming to achieve, otherwise turbolag will be an issue and engine power also affected.
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:49 pm

Can a intercooler be retro fitted easly enough?
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 8:59 pm

What non-intercooled turbo car do you have?
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Its a 2001 td escort van,the td cars had a intercooler but the vans did not.
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Probably a bolt on conversion fitting the parts from the car to the van, get yourself down to the scrapyard!
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Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:06 pm

I was involved in turbocharging a 205GTi once, and we used an intercooler from a BMW diesel and it worked wonders, so as long as you get the size right then you'll be fine
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sweep wrote:Its a 2001 td escort van,the td cars had a intercooler but the vans did not.
Dont waste you time/money.
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If you try to make it go faster it will break quicker, thats how the blue oval disease works :)
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bss325i wrote:
sweep wrote:Its a 2001 td escort van,the td cars had a intercooler but the vans did not.
Dont waste you time/money.
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bss325i wrote:
sweep wrote:Its a 2001 td escort van,the td cars had a intercooler but the vans did not.
Dont waste you time/money.
it's the same van i collected your leatherzzz in Baz,

maybe the intercooler will help me collect morsels faster? :D
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a bit of a curve ball but still in the same field, could the a.c. system be rerouted to the air intake?
From reading the above about colder air giving a better bang would this be worth doing or would too much power be lost from running the a.c. to make any gains.

Sorry if this is dumb but an average of 75 to brum and back has wobbled my thinking sponge a bit.
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Your AC system won't be able to flow enough air for the engine...
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but could it be implemented as an addition?
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 4:29 pm

In theory I suppose you could, but I can't see the gains being worthwhile. AC is great for cooling air below ambient temp, but in relatively small volumes. With an IC you're trying to return air towards ambient temp from maybe 80-90 degrees. You're better off using airflow and a big ole radiator, possibly with a water spray if you're really keen.
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TouringTash wrote:a bit of a curve ball but still in the same field, could the a.c. system be rerouted to the air intake?
From reading the above about colder air giving a better bang would this be worth doing or would too much power be lost from running the a.c. to make any gains.

Sorry if this is dumb but an average of 75 to brum and back has wobbled my thinking sponge a bit.
Definitly use more power than it would produce. Isn't the rule of thump 1bhp gain for every 10farenheit you lower the intake charge?
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Wed Sep 01, 2010 5:17 pm

Don't waste the effort and money on the van.

Use it on ya bimmer instead.... :idea: :wave:
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e30shed wrote:
DanThe wrote:Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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ross2009 wrote:
e30shed wrote:
DanThe wrote:Cus it stiks out tha bumper innit :)
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Apparently so - just googled Audi Killer

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Its all about air density. Cold air is denser. More air more fuel more bang. :P
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