The other day when leaving work, the car started fine, but when idling the engine would rev between 500-1200 rpm, and sounding like it was about to stall. It did it again this morning twice when I tried to start it. Any ideas? My only guess is either head gasket, or fuel injectors are blocked?
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Engine idling issues - Help!
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capri_rob
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Check for air leaks in the big rubber air pipe between the airflow meter and throttle body - if its split this will cause the idle symptoms you mention.
Still available brand new from the dealer for about £15 if you need a new one.
Still available brand new from the dealer for about £15 if you need a new one.
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Just taken off the airbox and AFM. The inlet pipe to the throttle body has perished slightly but there are no cracks as far as I can see. Also, the engine was still idling in the same way when I started it with the pipe off. The AFM appears to work fine, I checked it with the airbox off. I checked the spoark plugs and they are slightly black and smell of petrol, also the exhaust fumes smell of petrol.
Just taken off the airbox and AFM. The inlet pipe to the throttle body has perished slightly but there are no cracks as far as I can see. Also, the engine was still idling in the same way when I started it with the pipe off. The AFM appears to work fine, I checked it with the airbox off. I checked the spoark plugs and they are slightly black and smell of petrol, also the exhaust fumes smell of petrol.
You have the car running and spray some WD40 around it the car should rev up and will confirm the hose is perished... but seeing as you've taken it off already and it has started to wear you're better off replacing it now anyways.
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Banjo1981
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The short hose on the right is a fuel hose so any motor factors should have them to the right size.
The other two pipes are actually connected in the middle inbetween the two hose clamps on the left hand pipe. The left is a coolant pipe to help warm the air intakes for cold starts and the one in the middle is the intake for the ICV.
You could probably just replace them with standard hoses but you may have trouble getting the right size hoses so the dealers might be your best option.
The other two pipes are actually connected in the middle inbetween the two hose clamps on the left hand pipe. The left is a coolant pipe to help warm the air intakes for cold starts and the one in the middle is the intake for the ICV.
You could probably just replace them with standard hoses but you may have trouble getting the right size hoses so the dealers might be your best option.
Hi, just replaced the hoses and the problem is still there... any more ideas as I am running out of ideas myself...The engine still starts, then surges to about 1200 rpm then stalls again, unless you open up the throttle in which case it seems fine.
Replace the coolant temp sensor, don't know if it has one for the gauge and one for the ecu or a combined one. I know you have replaced some hoses but you didn't say if you tried spraying with wd40 or carb cleaner, you might have missed where the air leak is. do that first and see if the revs increase.
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Grrrmachine
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Don't just go replacing parts until the problem is fixed. That's a very expensive way of solving things.
It does still sound like an airleak, and possibly from the blanking plug on the back of the throttle body (a hard cap that falls off and lets air straight into the TB.)
Next step is the TPS getting oily from the return breather hose; this can be tested with a multimeter to ensure that it's switching as soon as the accelerator is pressed.
The blue coolant temp sensor is the next culprit; it should be measured with an ohmeter at hot and cold. I can't remember standard readings off the top of my head, but a search on here for "blue temp sensor" will tell you what to look for.
It does still sound like an airleak, and possibly from the blanking plug on the back of the throttle body (a hard cap that falls off and lets air straight into the TB.)
Next step is the TPS getting oily from the return breather hose; this can be tested with a multimeter to ensure that it's switching as soon as the accelerator is pressed.
The blue coolant temp sensor is the next culprit; it should be measured with an ohmeter at hot and cold. I can't remember standard readings off the top of my head, but a search on here for "blue temp sensor" will tell you what to look for.
I'm pretty sure that the blanking plug on the TB is still there, but I'll check...
Is the TPS located underneath the throttle body, and if so, can it be checked without removing the inlet manifold? When I took the main air inlet pipe out, there seemed to be an oily residue on the inside, at the TB end, is this a sign of anything wrong??
Many thanks for your help...
Is the TPS located underneath the throttle body, and if so, can it be checked without removing the inlet manifold? When I took the main air inlet pipe out, there seemed to be an oily residue on the inside, at the TB end, is this a sign of anything wrong??
Many thanks for your help...
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Grrrmachine
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You have to take off the TB to access the TPS, but you don't have to remove the manifold. Before removing anything, operate the throttle by hand (engine off) and listen for a "click". It should happen as soon as the throttle is moved off the rest position.
If you don't hear it, take the plug off the TPS (it's a tight squeeze, but you can see it by removing the big air hose) and connect an ohmeter (multimeter, set to resistance) to the centre pin and one of the side pins. Again, operate the throttle by hand, and you should see 0 resistance at closed throttle, becoming infinite resistance when the throttle is opened. It might be the other way round, but it doesn't matter; it just shows that the TPS is switching (it's a switch, not a sensor.)
If it's NOT switching, take off the TB, unscrew the TPS and spray it with carb cleaner. It does get oiled up over the years, and BrianMooore recommends drilling a small drain hole in the middle of it to let that oil seep out. If you're worried about it, just fill it with carb cleaner for the night, drain it out in the morning and retest it. If it's still not switching, replace it.
If it IS switching when removed, but not when fitted to the TB, then someone has messed around with the throttle stop screw, which needs to be adjusted correctly.
If you don't hear it, take the plug off the TPS (it's a tight squeeze, but you can see it by removing the big air hose) and connect an ohmeter (multimeter, set to resistance) to the centre pin and one of the side pins. Again, operate the throttle by hand, and you should see 0 resistance at closed throttle, becoming infinite resistance when the throttle is opened. It might be the other way round, but it doesn't matter; it just shows that the TPS is switching (it's a switch, not a sensor.)
If it's NOT switching, take off the TB, unscrew the TPS and spray it with carb cleaner. It does get oiled up over the years, and BrianMooore recommends drilling a small drain hole in the middle of it to let that oil seep out. If you're worried about it, just fill it with carb cleaner for the night, drain it out in the morning and retest it. If it's still not switching, replace it.
If it IS switching when removed, but not when fitted to the TB, then someone has messed around with the throttle stop screw, which needs to be adjusted correctly.
Have just cleaned the TB and ICV thoroughly and the engine is still stalling... 
I held the throttle open at about 1800-2000rpm for about 5 mins and then gradually closed the throttle and it idled ok for a bit but then stalled again. Think I'll replace the TPS next unless anyone's got any ideas?
I held the throttle open at about 1800-2000rpm for about 5 mins and then gradually closed the throttle and it idled ok for a bit but then stalled again. Think I'll replace the TPS next unless anyone's got any ideas?