yet another m30 swap

[sheebie]

Also what bolts did everyone use for the mounts? the original ones the come with the standard mounts i find a too long?

[Rav335uk]

I used the ones that were alreay there, no problems

[leeparkes]

I also used the ones that were already there too.

The left mount (under exhaust mani) is held on further forward that the right mount and iirc uses the bolt holes that held the 535i mounts on, dont think ive got a pic but ill have a look

You ok with the inlet side mount?

[leeparkes]

Here, use these bolt 3 holes and use the original 17mm bolts

There's a hole behind the original mount (long arrow)

[sheebie]

thanks rav, i can only get so far until the bolts dont go any further, i didnt want to force them incase they break.

Thanks lee, i found your pics of the inlet side will have a go tomorrow, did the inlet bracket cause any problems in getting the correct angle?

Nearly engine in time, just need to do sump gasket and find a 325 gearbox to rob the linkage and prop flange from hopefully get one by the weekend.

[leeparkes]

Clean the holes up with some WD40 and you will be fine, i think the bolts are about an inch long

You will need to open up the hole a little on the support because as it sits on the mount it pushes it out, tbh the support isnt 'really' needed, ive been running without for a few months with no problems

[Rav335uk]

thanks rav, i can only get so far until the bolts dont go any further, i didnt want to force them incase they break.

Thanks lee, i found your pics of the inlet side will have a go tomorrow, did the inlet bracket cause any problems in getting the correct angle?

Nearly engine in time, just need to do sump gasket and find a 325 gearbox to rob the linkage and prop flange from hopefully get one by the weekend.

Inlet Mainfold brachet needs modding slightly, opening up one of the bolt holes iirc.

Do check the length of the bolts, i defo used the same ones, but don't overtighten or you will cause damage to the block.

[sheebie]

Do check the length of the bolts, i defo used the same ones, but don't overtighten or you will cause damage to the block.

i checked them and cleaned the holes and they are too long, i didnt want to damage the block so will just get some at the correct length

[leeparkes]

iirc my bolts are about 30mm long

[zaust]

I removed the manifold bracket completly and Used the same bolt's on mine.

[Rav335uk]

I removed the manifold bracket completly and Used the same bolt's on mine.

, Marc i'm sure it's there to hold the big bas7atrd up.

[zaust]

They don't wiegh that much, Been fine on both engine's without it.

[leeparkes]

I havent got mine on either

[gareth]

None on mine either and it's fine 4.5 years on...

[sheebie]

i have left mine off now too

this is the problem i was having with the mount nuts being too long, so got some new smaller ones made from a local machining shop:



changed the sump gasket today pita, glad i did it though while it was out, tomorrow sort the shortshifter and linkage out then ready to put in.

does anyone remember what size the big nut is on the prop flange? looks around 30mm deep.

[sheebie]

Right a little update,

all the service work has been done, just need to wait until my load leveller comes hopefully next week so i can put the engine in.

one question i got the t-piece from cotswold as per sticky.

but the pipe that goes from the T to the heather matrix, what did everyone use? the 5 series one has 2 opening on the end one which goes to the heather matrix and one which went to the header tank.

Do i need to go a buy a new pipe?

[zaust]

I did not like that way my self, I relocated the coolant bottle to the batt tray. And kept the pipes the way bm intended, Also mean's that you have some extra coolant in the system.

[leeparkes]

I used the e28 T piece at first but then i hacked up some M20 pipe in the end

I think there's pics in my thread

[sheebie]

Getting a little annoyed now, i have managed to get the engine in at position number 2, but no matter what angle i use on the load leveller i cannot get it onto position number 3.
Mean to be working on it today not in the mood atm
Anyone help? what the trick to getting it in?

[Rav335uk]

I slackened the rubber mounts abit so they could be slightly moved, have you tried this?

[sheebie]

I slackened the rubber mounts abit so they could be slightly moved, have you tried this?

yeah i tried that rav, but it didnt help, atm its sitting in position 2. I have trouble getting the engine in straight, its does lop-sided.

Did you knock the transmission tunnel in? as that the only thing that may help.

[leeparkes]

Exhaust side is the worse to do, try what Rav said

My method is to get the inlet side in pos 3 first, then remove the exhaust side mount (arm) but leave one bolt in so the mount will swing up and onto the rubber mount, put the other two bolts back in and tighten it all up.

[sheebie]

I will try both things you guys suggested on thursday when i get time next.

Hopefully will get some luck and get it in!

[Rav335uk]

I "Slightly" massaged the transmission tunnel abit, but when I looked when the engine was in pos3, it didn't really need it.

[sheebie]

I "Slightly" massaged the transmission tunnel abit, but when I looked when the engine was in pos3, it didn't really need it.

i wonder what im doing wrong then?!?

will reassess the situation, this is what i did last time.

Jack the front of the car up on axle stands. Drop the engine in pretty much vertically, then level it using the load leveller, while pushing it back towards the bulkhead, But only managed number 2.

[Rav335uk]

I didn't have mine on stands, it was on the floor, had a skateboard to put underneath the g/box and lowered the engine/box together, you need 2 people to get it into pos3 though

[leeparkes]

If your in pos 2 your almost there, slacken off the gearbox crossmember support so it will slide back and forth, take the weight of the engine with either a hoist or trolley jack under the sump,get the mounts off (inlet side not really nessasary) then slide it back enough to get the mounts back on.

You dont need two people Rav

If you were closer id do it for you

[zaust]

Getting a little annoyed now, i have managed to get the engine in at position number 2, but no matter what angle i use on the load leveller i cannot get it onto position number 3.
Mean to be working on it today not in the mood atm
Anyone help? what the trick to getting it in?

I have this problem, It my manifold against the brake servo for me, I'm in position two until I can get a smaller servo.

[Rav335uk]

Getting a little annoyed now, i have managed to get the engine in at position number 2, but no matter what angle i use on the load leveller i cannot get it onto position number 3.
Mean to be working on it today not in the mood atm
Anyone help? what the trick to getting it in?

I have this problem, It my manifold against the brake servo for me, I'm in position two until I can get a smaller servo.

Who's mounts are you using?

[zaust]

Beefy's.

When if I put the mount in the side of the servo it touches already, leaving no room to swing the other mount into position. Or vice vresa.

[Rav335uk]

I have Beefy's too, but didn't have that problem
Wonder if yours a slightly different to mine then??

[leeparkes]

Beefy's.

When if I put the mount in the side of the servo it touches already, leaving no room to swing the other mount into position. Or vice vresa.

If you can get the inlet side on your halfway there, you wont be able to lift the exhaust side high enough to get it over the thread because of the servo,
remove the exhaust side mount then put it on the rubber mount first in pos 3, then bolt it to the block

Easy

[sheebie]

im using lee's mounts and this is how far away from the brake servo i am in position 2, should just be enough room for swinging

[leeparkes]

plenty room

Position 3





Its virtually imposible to tilt the engine to get the exhaust side mount over the stud, you can cut the stud down shorter to make it easier but its even easier this way

My method is to get the inlet side in pos 3 first, then remove the exhaust side mount (arm) but leave one bolt in so the mount will swing up and onto the rubber mount, put the other two bolts back in and tighten it all up.

[zaust]

Welcome to come and have a go if you want. P2 is no problem and looks very close to noclues.

Will take a pic over the week end to show.