THE best sat E30 m3 i've ever seen!

[town325i]

[Falkster]

[suchy]

Subtle

[oldroydsr4]

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree but to summarise the general e30zone ethos you are only allowed to carry out the following mods.

1. Lower your car no more than 30mm on biltstein b8s because this is what every one says are the best and we don't want to ruin the geometry.
2. Be different, fit an IS splitter.
3. Only fit bbs wheels or if your feeling flush alpinas.
4. You are permitted to change the suspension bushes but be careful with polyurethane as this will ruin the sublime ride the bilsteins will give.
5. Make sure you carry your flat cap in the glove box and your spare chromed AA badge / national trust stickers.
6. What ever you do, don't lower your car to the point where you can't fit a brick between the top of the tyre and arch, this makes you council.

[MrBenn]

^^LOL

Spot on

[Jhonno]

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree but to summarise the general e30zone ethos you are only allowed to carry out the following mods.

1. Lower your car no more than 30mm on biltstein b8s because this is what every one says are the best and we don't want to ruin the geometry.
2. Be different, fit an IS splitter.
3. Only fit bbs wheels or if your feeling flush alpinas.
4. You are permitted to change the suspension bushes but be careful with polyurethane as this will ruin the sublime ride the bilsteins will give.
5. Make sure you carry your flat cap in the glove box and your spare chromed AA badge / national trust stickers.
6. What ever you do, don't lower your car to the point where you can't fit a brick between the top of the tyre and arch, this makes you council.

What a load of crap.. The only time any of this comes into it, is when it is a 'special' model that is actually worth something, as standard.

I think some people take the internet to seriously, it's NOT real life, 1/2 the time it is just banter.

Your Touring will be forking awesome when it is done, Theo's rice rocket is the nuts also.. For example. My car is very low (but it has suspension travel as I spunked ££££ on decent coilovers, and adj geo), none of these are subject to any of what you have said..

[tez180]

hahaha

[oldroydsr4]

[quote=jhonno

I think some people take the internet to seriously, it's NOT real life, 1/2 the time it is just banter...[/quote]

I couldn't agree more.

[Ziggy]

The zone isn't full of 'OEM homo's, there are a few who are talking loudly & doing a good job of convincing the more impressionable people at the moment. A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward. How about people build their car to be what they want & worry less about other people's opinions?

FWIW, I wouldn't cosmetically modify an M3 - because I love how they look standard. They aren't hugely expensive even now though (new mondeo money), so why shouldn't people do what they like with them?

[Alex]

The zone is a Dictatorship

[Steve]

A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward.

I'm writing an article on the is very subject at the moment, how the style of E30s have change on the Zone over the last 7 years.

This place was built on the fact that this was the home for all E30s. OEM, modified, who cares ! at the end of the day anything we do to the car, underneath all that it's still an E30 !

[Alex]

A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward.

I'm writing an article on the is very subject at the moment, how the style of E30s have change on the Zone over the last 7 years.

This place was built on the fact that this was the home for all E30s. OEM, modified, who cares ! at the end of the day anything we do to the car, underneath all that it's still an E30 !

Do you still have that moredoor with fibergash attached to it

[Ziggy]

Do you still have that moredoor with fibergash attached to it

He pretends to. It doesn't really exist.

[Steve]

A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward.

I'm writing an article on the is very subject at the moment, how the style of E30s have change on the Zone over the last 7 years.

This place was built on the fact that this was the home for all E30s. OEM, modified, who cares ! at the end of the day anything we do to the car, underneath all that it's still an E30 !

Do you still have that moredoor with fibergash attached to it

Yes and loving it !

[Alex]

[beemerbird]

The zone isn't full of 'OEM homo's, there are a few who are talking loudly & doing a good job of convincing the more impressionable people at the moment. A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward. How about people build their car to be what they want & worry less about other people's opinions?

Well said, Jon. Sometimes I think I'm alone in being a member of the 'whenever I see an E30, regardless of what's been done to it, it puts a smile on my face' club (or WISAEROWBDTIIPASOMF club to simplify it ).

Most 'OEM' cars are about as original as triggers broom anyway

[Falkster]

Most 'OEM' cars are about as original as triggers broom anyway

[steve_k]

Exactly guys

Max power sh1t = Fail

mod'd E30's with nice motors, nice interiors, nice suspention, improved running gear and new bushes, THATS modding.

Not the sh1t that Ben through's at his car, and believe it or not he has to pay to make his car look like that

Mate you are seriously contradicting yourself here! Look at what you have listed as improving a car and read the spec of my car http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/18938/ ... 3-pictures and you will see i have all of those things, plus more! If you don't like the aesthetics of my car then that is cool, because how the car looks is down to my personal taste. I grew up reading Max Power in the 80's/90's and when they had the Rieger E30 on the cover it was my ultimate boy's E30 toy. When i was old enough and had enough money, i created that ultimate toy with my own twist. I've had my car 9 years now and would i do it again! probably not because my taste has changed in that time, but my car is something i bring out when i want some fun, then stick it back in the garage after, so you dont have to like how it looks, but as far as performance and suspension goes it's all there.

And for those who go on about how we ruin a great car etc, how can taking a 20+ year old rust bucket and revamping it with modern goodies doing that? Also not everyone who is into modding follows the crowd. I never have and i never will. I follow my own style and if i want it i will do it as long as i can afford it and not look at what the in thing is or the next big thing and that is why like it or not, my car is unique. Apart from the kit (Which only 7 was sold in the UK) almost everything else on the car has been fabricated or made just for my car and to me that is what modding is about

Now back on subject! Most people who have a problem with this car seems to be because the handling etc would be gone, but as i keep stressing not everyone buys a car like the M3 for that reason. Someone may be into posing, but like the shape of the M3 so buys one to slam huge rims, deck it and just pose in it. Why do people feel the need to get so worked up about it? People spend thousands buying super cars and they drive it round the block every now and then and then stick it back in a secure storage. Isn't that a far worse crime if you want to call it that!

+1 i have to agree with this & steve's post & fi's post aswell.

but at the end of the day it is just a car & if the owner want's to drop it on it's arse & fit bigger rims then thats up to them no one else.

we all choose to go down a certain path with our car's & do it because we want to. ok some folk do it because everyone else is doing it & choose to follow the herd thats up to them.

some of you like it (including me) some of you don't, so what, that's what you think & you are entitled to your opinon but when you start trying to tell (dictate??) to some one new to the e30 what they can & can't do then that will only serve to push them away from the car & this place.

at the end of the day it is just a car, we all have a thing about the e30 in all shapes & sizes/colours/states of tune/mod which is why we are all here.

so in other words get over it & move on otherwise this place & the e30 will fall into the trap of being an OEM only car & forum.

rant over time for a beer i think.

[bootyman]

A few years ago, a 60/40 / H&R cupkit was the 'agreed' way forward.

I'm writing an article on the is very subject at the moment, how the style of E30s have change on the Zone over the last 7 years.

This place was built on the fact that this was the home for all E30s. OEM, modified, who cares ! at the end of the day anything we do to the car, underneath all that it's still an E30 !

Erm. Except for mine mate. It's an inbreed mutation

When i chose my engine, i could have had something a lot more powerful for half the money, but i chose to stay with the M20 and spend double the money just to keep it in the E30 mode

[DanThe]

I think we are going to have to agree to disagree but to summarise the general e30zone ethos you are only allowed to carry out the following mods.

1. Lower your car no more than 30mm on biltstein b8s because this is what every one says are the best and we don't want to ruin the geometry.
2. Be different, fit an IS splitter.
3. Only fit bbs wheels or if your feeling flush alpinas.
4. You are permitted to change the suspension bushes but be careful with polyurethane as this will ruin the sublime ride the bilsteins will give.
5. Make sure you carry your flat cap in the glove box and your spare chromed AA badge / national trust stickers.
6. What ever you do, don't lower your car to the point where you can't fit a brick between the top of the tyre and arch, this makes you council.

I take it your car will have stretched tyres on ridiculously sized wheels hanging out of the body?

[Royalratch]

as far as performance and suspension goes it's all there.

In a very narrow context.

Also not everyone who is into modding follows the crowd. I never have and i never will. I follow my own style and if i want it i will do it as long as i can afford it and not look at what the in thing is or the next big thing and that is why like it or not, my car is unique. Apart from the kit (Which only 7 was sold in the UK) almost everything else on the car has been fabricated or made just for my car and to me that is what modding is about

The actual exclusivity of a Rieger'ed E30 may well be true but all I see when I see your car is a bodykitted monster from the worst of the MaxPower era. You may think it's unique and standout but it's not, it just melts into a mass of similarly extrovert cars from a horrible subculture of car culture that thankfully is now less popular.


But I respect your right to do it and the quality of the work gone into it.

[bootyman]

as far as performance and suspension goes it's all there.

In a very narrow context.

Also not everyone who is into modding follows the crowd. I never have and i never will. I follow my own style and if i want it i will do it as long as i can afford it and not look at what the in thing is or the next big thing and that is why like it or not, my car is unique. Apart from the kit (Which only 7 was sold in the UK) almost everything else on the car has been fabricated or made just for my car and to me that is what modding is about

The actual exclusivity of a Rieger'ed E30 may well be true but all I see when I see your car is a bodykitted monster from the worst of the MaxPower era. You may think it's unique and standout but it's not, it just melts into a mass of similarly extrovert cars from a horrible subculture of car culture that thankfully is now less popular.


But I respect your right to do it and the quality of the work gone into it.

Funny cause that's how i feel when i see standard E30's like yours so the feeling is mutal

[johnt0709]

Just logged on......surely not again?

[e30topless]

When i chose my engine, i could have had something a lot more powerful for half the money, but i chose to stay with the M20 and spend double the money just to keep it in the E30 mode

M20 FTW !


I have to admit when I saw the pics of your Rieger cab I almost puked,

'in the flesh' it is simply Stunning !

[Falkster]

I think it's getting a little personal now. The thread was initially about an M3 but now has turned into what's right and wrong about purists and modding.
For me modding is like the gays, as long as they don't do it to me then they're fine!

Live and let live!

[DanThe]

Falkster, you know pacer will be along soon to put you in your place about that comment

[Dezzy]

Exactly guys

Max power sh1t = Fail

mod'd E30's with nice motors, nice interiors, nice suspention, improved running gear and new bushes, THATS modding.

Not the sh1t that Ben through's at his car, and believe it or not he has to pay to make his car look like that

Mate you are seriously contradicting yourself here! Look at what you have listed as improving a car and read the spec of my car http://www.modifiedcars.com/cars/18938/ ... 3-pictures and you will see i have all of those things, plus more! If you don't like the aesthetics of my car then that is cool, because how the car looks is down to my personal taste. I grew up reading Max Power in the 80's/90's and when they had the Rieger E30 on the cover it was my ultimate boy's E30 toy. When i was old enough and had enough money, i created that ultimate toy with my own twist. I've had my car 9 years now and would i do it again! probably not because my taste has changed in that time, but my car is something i bring out when i want some fun, then stick it back in the garage after, so you dont have to like how it looks, but as far as performance and suspension goes it's all there.

And for those who go on about how we ruin a great car etc, how can taking a 20+ year old rust bucket and revamping it with modern goodies doing that? Also not everyone who is into modding follows the crowd. I never have and i never will. I follow my own style and if i want it i will do it as long as i can afford it and not look at what the in thing is or the next big thing and that is why like it or not, my car is unique. Apart from the kit (Which only 7 was sold in the UK) almost everything else on the car has been fabricated or made just for my car and to me that is what modding is about

Now back on subject! Most people who have a problem with this car seems to be because the handling etc would be gone, but as i keep stressing not everyone buys a car like the M3 for that reason. Someone may be into posing, but like the shape of the M3 so buys one to slam huge rims, deck it and just pose in it. Why do people feel the need to get so worked up about it? People spend thousands buying super cars and they drive it round the block every now and then and then stick it back in a secure storage. Isn't that a far worse crime if you want to call it that!

It was said tongue in cheak mate. We have done this before and I knew you would bite.

My personal opinion is I dislike all cars like yours but, I know it's your car and your car has been done to a very high standard. I couldn't care less what you think of my car or cars like them, I knew though that I would get that reaction. I too didn't want to make this a OEM+ v's the modders as we bound to win. You only have imy on your side.

[pacerpete]

I think it's getting a little personal now. The thread was initially about an M3 but now has turned into what's right and wrong about purists and modding.
For me modding is like the gays, as long as they don't do it to me then they're fine!

Live and let live!

All this talk of 'stance' /'stretch' and 'gape' is definately gay as rightly pointed out by the zones own homo affairs spokesman MR 'open crotch oven glove' Falkster -Startec

Fact , any modification done purely to enhance, cough, the aesthetics of a car to the detriment of its driveability/useability is sad and gay and practised by sad attention seeking losers who are more worried about council types / fellow 'scene' c0cks checking them out than a good driving /handling car.

Contrary to popular belief I am not a OEM paedo polisher type, I appreciate tasteful and functional 'modding' as much as the next man, what I dont like is modding/molesting to the extent that the car is barely useable in pursuit of attention and fame and glory on the net and between the pages of a loo roll type publication with a circulation of 1567 copies

In ref to the M3 being discussed , anybody who has driven a decent standard M3 or one with SENSIBLE suspension mods will know just how together they are and will surely cringe at the thought of a 500 mile journey in this one trick pony.
I really hope MR F Purist enjoys looking at his handiwork, I cannot imagine how he would enjoy driving it !

Obviously none of this is directed at Bootyman, as his turd, like himself is a paragon of good taste and decorum !

[oldroydsr4]

All this talk of 'stance' /'stretch' and 'gape' is definately gay as rightly pointed out by the zones own homo affairs spokesman MR 'open crotch oven glove' Falkster -Startec  

Fact , any modification done purely to enhance, cough, the aesthetics of a car to the detriment of its driveability/useability is sad and gay and practised by sad attention seeking losers who are more worried about council types / fellow 'scene' c0cks checking them out than a good driving /handling car.

Contrary to popular belief I am not a OEM paedo polisher type, I appreciate tasteful and functional 'modding' as much as the next man, what I dont like is modding/molesting  to the extent that the car is barely useable in pursuit of attention and fame and glory on the net and between the pages of a loo roll type publication with a circulation of 1567 copies  :)

In ref to the M3 being discussed , anybody who has driven a decent standard M3 or one with SENSIBLE suspension mods will know just how together they are and will surely cringe at the thought of a 500 mile journey in this one trick pony. 
 I really hope MR F Purist enjoys looking at his handiwork, I cannot imagine how he would enjoy driving it !  :( 

Obviously none of this is directed at Bootyman, as his turd, like himself is a paragon of good taste and decorum !  :)

What a bigoted old women

[Falkster]

Falkster, you know pacer will be along soon to put you in your place about that comment

And as if by magic!!

[Blitz]

as far as performance and suspension goes it's all there.

In a very narrow context.

Also not everyone who is into modding follows the crowd. I never have and i never will. I follow my own style and if i want it i will do it as long as i can afford it and not look at what the in thing is or the next big thing and that is why like it or not, my car is unique. Apart from the kit (Which only 7 was sold in the UK) almost everything else on the car has been fabricated or made just for my car and to me that is what modding is about

The actual exclusivity of a Rieger'ed E30 may well be true but all I see when I see your car is a bodykitted monster from the worst of the MaxPower era. You may think it's unique and standout but it's not, it just melts into a mass of similarly extrovert cars from a horrible subculture of car culture that thankfully is now less popular.


But I respect your right to do it and the quality of the work gone into it.

Funny cause that's how i feel when i see standard E30's like yours so the feeling is mutal

Something like bootyman's car is not something I thought I would like. But I love the way it looks. When I saw it in person it was the most impressive car I've seen. I like that its completely out of this world.

[k20trew]

its a matter of opinion, i think it looks good ,granted it will drive crap but lets stop hating eh!
its a e30 m3 and it looks loads better than my rusty slag!

[suchy]

Blimey this has moved from the FPurist M to The Booty's Fleet!!
How about we pick on others also just to make it fair??

[TheHeap]

Well i don't like the look of any e30 m3 so i'll not get too involved

[Falkster]

Well i don't like the look of any e30 m3 so i'll not get too involved

Not that I get defensive about M3s but how the f**k can you not like them? What's not to like? Or atleast appreciate. I'm not a big fan of chrome turds but I appreciate any e30!