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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:36 am

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saw this advert. kinda tempted but look at the price!!!!

i had been looking serious for a sport and i cannot find a decent one for love nor money!, but i dont think i can justify spending 3500 on one!!!!

sport prices are fecking insane! (would anyone agree>?)

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:43 am

Depends on the condition you want the car to be in, I'd say that was a good price if it doesn't need any money spending on it.
Or you could get a Sport for about Ԛ£1k less than that which would probably need more than Ԛ£1k spent on it to get it up to standard.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:53 am

If it's a good car then thats a fair price.

Sports are rare enough now to command higher prices, and there is a changing ownership profile, moving away from the council image to one closer to classic car status.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:16 am

Unfortunately cars are always worth what people will pay for them... I only know that too well in my hunt for a westfield... people ask stupid money at times, but there are equally stupid people who will pay it!

Although I'm not saying sport prices are stupid mind!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:22 am

i have seen sports up to 5k, some proper minters!!, i just reckon cos they are rarer.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 10:42 am

Take it from these guys - the car is priced at a realistic value. You could do a lot worse for similar money. The Sport is a desirable model among E30 owners, and as the previous threads have stated, you could initially spend less & end up paying the difference with repairs.
I personally envy all you guys with pristine examples - but also I don't appreciate just how much money you have spent... are we all mad?

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:03 am

I don't think it's just sports either, all clean E30's seem to be keeping their money much better.

The E36 is getting very cheap now, to the extent that you can buy a similar model E36 for less than decent E30 money. The E46 is also dropping quite sharply in price, as the E30 slowly creeps up again.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:15 am

If that car in the advert is as good as it says it is it will probably be sold by now, 3.5k is cheap!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:32 am

fair enough. its a bit too far for me to go cos im in cornwall! bugger!

otherwise i would have considered going to have a look at it.
well im not sure about e36, the m3,s in this shape are holding value v well. same with 328i sport. bloody expensive,

sigh. maybe ill never own a 325i sport :(

im temped by the one thats for sale for 1600 on the for sale section in the forum. seems like a good car for the Ԛ£Ã”šÃ‚£
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:50 am

The M3 is doing well but thats not really what you'd class as a normal E36, the 328i will keep its value because it's such a nice all round package but the rest of them are dropping down to the 2k mark very quickly, less for tatty examples. Early ones are crap cars though really so not a surprise.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:18 pm

As Paul says really, the M3 is an M3, and the 328i sport is the top of the E36 range bar the M3, same as the 325i Sport being top of the E30 range bar M3 again, hence the higher premiums.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:19 pm

well i would have said m3 was top of e30?

just rung the guy,

has no s/h :)

last ownser mate was a mechanic or something liek that,

due a service,

surface bubbles on the arches,

hes sending me pics but im thinking not worth that amount. shame.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 12:22 pm

frosted wrote:well i would have said m3 was top of e30?
I think you know what I mean! :roll:
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:47 pm

E30's are a specialist market. Good ones are worth loads because bad ones require thousands of pounds to get them right.

An clean rust free 325i/Sport is worth alot only if it doesnt need work. Some people think just because its a sport its worth bucks.....NAH!

Your a lucky person if you get a Ԛ£2500 sport which is structurally and mechanically sound. Most of the time youll find rotton jacking points and fllors, spilts in the seams, knackered engines and gearboxes.

For Ԛ£5000 I would want one thats in showroom condition, no rust, everything as it should be, no work required at all. Low miles is a must and proper service history.

You see too many wasted ones will filler down the sides, hanging arches, worn out bushes etc for Ԛ£4000........but people still buy them

WLN is a good place to buy a proper car. Yes he is expensive but you dont ned to spend the masive amounts of money restoring them.

I was speaking to Karan the other day and he has splashed out over Ԛ£1000 on bodywork alone! And that car was considered to be very very nice!

M3's are also an excellent buy but they are a different car altogether and hence attract a different type of buyer.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:57 pm

That black one in the link is a good price. Assuming everything is ok. Will probably cost you Ԛ£5000 in total to get right.

Dont think just because its old its not worth money, E30's are fast becoming much more valuable than E36 325i's and soon 328i's.

A good HIgh Spec SE is worth loads as well..........not Ԛ£1200 as everyone wants to belive, there aint that much difference in a sport and SE!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 1:58 pm

well fair enough. i could not justify paying the prices WLN charges.

m3 e30 would be my dream car apart from i have heard so much about reliability problems as a daily drive and i am worried about the implications of lhd for quick driving.

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:05 pm

E30 M3: Fantastic car. Lives upto the Legend.

Left Hand drive aint an issue simply because its such a narrow car! I was in it for 10 mins and after that it was normal driving.

Much better than 325i sport if you like to rev and they are faster once above 40 mph upto which its about the same. Its just a mouch much more responsive car and looks fantastic.

Reliabaility issues.......just buy a proper one with engine rebuilt if your that worried. Other than that its all normal E30 stuff really.

Ԛ£6000 buys a proper M3, Ԛ£5000.....usually need work. The noise is brilliant high up the rev range aswell!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:23 pm

so pretty much a m3 e30 will cost me about 1.5k more than a 325i sport in excellent condition. well the e30 m3 seems like a better do.

im assumming you have owned one? just wondering what you opionion of one for a daily drive would be? (i dont do sill milage but it would be used every day). dont mind expensive fuel costs, just wondering on reliability, heard some bad things bout them day to day.


sorry this thread is getting more and more off the orginal topic (my fault)

just saw this

http://eng.autoscout24.com/home/index/d ... bwjijfnnhg

how thats lush :)

around the 6k mark. nice.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:40 pm

I really dont think that low mileage is a must, a high mileage car with a Full service history is always in better condition than a low mileage example.
Ive seen that car in the link and its a nice car, but in terms of its value im not really qualified to say what its worth.

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 2:55 pm

Got to agree that mileage doesn't mean shit with cars of this age, condition is priority.

As for the M3 and a daily driver, then a few people told me it would be a dog to drive every day, and I would regret it, but to be totally honest I've more than adapted to mine and it's a great car to drive and is very rewarding, even overtaking isn't that much of a problem, the only thing that bothers me with LHD is the seatbelt cutting into my left shoulder instead of my right...it really bugs me!!! And that's a silly reason really...
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:53 pm

Only thing the M3 doesn't like is sitting in traffic, they tend to get a bit warm, but most E30's are fans of traffic really and neither are their owners!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:01 pm

I suppose that's the beauty of living where I do, traffic isn't a problem, last time I got stuck in traffic was when I went to pick up the M3 near Reading! 8)
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:14 pm

frosted wrote:so pretty much a m3 e30 will cost me about 1.5k more than a 325i sport in excellent condition. well the e30 m3 seems like a better do.

im assumming you have owned one? just wondering what you opionion of one for a daily drive would be? (i dont do sill milage but it would be used every day). dont mind expensive fuel costs, just wondering on reliability, heard some bad things bout them day to day.


sorry this thread is getting more and more off the orginal topic (my fault)

just saw this

http://eng.autoscout24.com/home/index/d ... bwjijfnnhg

how thats lush :)

around the 6k mark. nice.
I own an m3 right now. I find it easier to drive round town than a 325i because of the lighter clutch and better throttle response. Suspension is little bit harder but less crashy hence in a weird eay more comfortable.
Had no problems with over heating traffic at all.
Oh, and the best thing..........fuel economy is so so much better than a 325i! You can actually drive it hard, go faster than a 325i could ever hope to go and do much much better fuel economy.

Look in the for sale section, im selling mine.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 4:44 pm

Sal as u want a track car why dont u just track that


i almost did a deal with mine on an m3, it was tempting but i just couldnt do it!!!! Damn you Sal for tempting me!! lol

a truly good sport is hard to find but dont we all know that!!!

ive spent money on mine, only because of all the goodies and that engine it has, or i reckon i would have scrapped it or sold it. but whenever i drive it , it puts a huge grin on my face!!! :D , and if i dont drive ot for a week or 2 and then drive it, it actually id quite scary for the first few miles.

as for a mint sport or an m3?? i have no idea what id have!!, lets just say the sport would have to be very special

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Mon Feb 07, 2005 5:10 pm

that seems to be agood price, less than what i paid for mine. 3500 isn't bad at all fro leather and all the electrics, and full history, seems like a good price to me
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 7:36 pm

interesting points i'd say, my sport is low milege currently on 78k bought on 66k and is sweeeeeeeeeeeet as a nut mechanically as people will testify. Any lower milege and i'd think you would run into under use issues as mine was covering just enough to keep it usable. BUT alas it has a few body work issues under the kit (no where near as bad Karan's was!). I'll get this sorted when i've paid my insurance and saved up the money for it.

Sports and M3's are like chalk and cheese, and so are the people buying them generally. Sal a 325's sounds miles better than an M3 anyday of the week IMO! well mine does with your exhaust. Silly man for selling it!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:12 pm

i agree, sports are becoming more expensive by the month, but agreed, a decent one will cost the same as one needing work in the long run.

I looked for a sport for a while, but when I realised how cheap an e36 328i sport was, for me it was a no brainer...

Afterall this is my daily driver, and climate control, Traction, BBS alloys, leather sports seats and all in good nick done me down to the ground.

Based on the very top E30 sport money and a 328i sport in reasonable condition, there isn't much between them... Sorry but I had to chose the e36, but if I could buy a decent sport for Ԛ£2500 i'd have had a sport and some cash towards an M3.

Theres my 2 pence worth... let the slating begin.... e36 etc etc
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:18 pm

no slaggin needed mate, sensible chioce. i would have got a 328 sport if i could have afforded the insurance but the e30 sport was 500 quid less for insurance and almost as quick.
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:20 pm

billgatese30 wrote:no slaggin needed mate, sensible chioce. i would have got a 328 sport if i could have afforded the insurance but the e30 sport was 500 quid less for insurance and almost as quick.
good point, but the sport will benefit from some tuning shortly and for 400 notes it will be over 200BHP, then it will fly!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:24 pm

cool. sounds like it'll be a good un :cool:
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 8:26 pm

I think the big engine touring's(325,320) are holding there money or even starting to rise a bit :D as the later one's all seam to be the smaller 318's i had to look for mine for a bit and saw a few bad one's along the way :eek:
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Simon13 wrote:
Sports and M3's are like chalk and cheese, and so are the people buying them generally. Sal a 325's sounds miles better than an M3 anyday of the week IMO! well mine does with your exhaust. Silly man for selling it!
Sound on M3 is untouchable at higher rpms, sounds like a proper touring car.

So........you like the noise do you ! Please explain what it sounds like? Did you feel the better torque?
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M5pilot wrote:
Simon13 wrote:
Sports and M3's are like chalk and cheese, and so are the people buying them generally. Sal a 325's sounds miles better than an M3 anyday of the week IMO! well mine does with your exhaust. Silly man for selling it!
Sound on M3 is untouchable at higher rpms, sounds like a proper touring car.

So........you like the noise do you ! Please explain what it sounds like? Did you feel the better torque?
Got to agree there, and I've always been a person to buy a car and want a nice sound too, I've always been a fan of the sixes or nice american V8's, but the M3 is proper raw noise....lovely!!
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:27 pm

m3 sounds nice admittedly but only when ure raggingthe tits of it,

whereas a 6 sounds good all the time
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Mon Feb 07, 2005 9:27 pm

I used to see this M3 go past my house now and then, whenever it went past I used to think.........proper car noise.

Then I heard them at Brands Hatch and couldnt belive what I was hearing!

There were 325i's and 327's on the same track at the same time and they sounded..........erm.......crap in comparison. The M3's sounded like proper racing cars!
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