Rusting E39s
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CaesarBob
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I was pulled up behind an E39 535i Sport in traffic this morning, which at first glance looked fairly tidy. However, the bottom of the boot lid had been seriously ravaged by the tin worm.
Am i just naïve to expect an E39 to be pretty much rust free (it was an X-reg after all) or is it unusual?
Am i just naïve to expect an E39 to be pretty much rust free (it was an X-reg after all) or is it unusual?
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Its a common place for E39's to rust. Even e46's rust, front arches mainly.
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I saw an X-reg Mercedes S-class with some bootlid rust the other day 
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My dads old e46 has a few blisters around the arches, Like where the e36's go in the corners. The bonnet is also rusty at the front. Its done 250,000 miles on a v plate
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It's probably more down to me still feeling like E39s are pretty new. Doesn't seem like 5mins since my old man got his 528i back in 1999!
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My old man has one that has 170k on it and looks like it came out of the factory yesterday. That said, I did once open a bag of crisps in it and for a moment didn't understand why the car suddenly glided to a halt. It was the crisps out, or me out - he's that kind of car owner!
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People have to clean out there arches.
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ive seen them with rust on the roof!! merc's are a load of crap nowadays anywaySpeedtouch wrote:I saw an X-reg Mercedes S-class with some bootlid rust the other day
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My E38 was a bit rusty and so have been my 2 previous E39's, specially round the boot and rear arches 
Previously owned loads of old E30s, E34s, a few E36s, E32s, E39s and an E38.
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I think its a case of all cars rust eventually and e46s e39s e38s etc are now starting to suffer
just look at the e36 touring cook318is broke
you can get some real rotten early ones when you look
just look at the e36 touring cook318is broke
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Yep, they are shocking pieces of shit for rust.si- wrote:ive seen them with rust on the roof!! merc's are a load of crap nowadays anywaySpeedtouch wrote:I saw an X-reg Mercedes S-class with some bootlid rust the other day
Last year i MOT'd an '02 reg one which had rust coming trough on the front wings, 2x doors, boot lid and both rear arches.
Not big chunks falling off but heavy bubbling.
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you'll find that most of teh e46's that are rusting on the front wings are coupes and cabs. dont know why 
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It's the inner plastic arch liner chafes the inner surface to the outer wing. This then rusts and eats away the lip.Kos wrote:you'll find that most of teh e46's that are rusting on the front wings are coupes and cabs. dont know why
The e39 is positively sound compared to say a late 90's e class. I've seen some right horrors of late.
e39 tourings all suffer in the tailgate area and the saloons on the bootlid around the lock but especially on the panel below the lights and bootlid, above the rear bumper. If you take the rear bumper off, theres two holes with grommets in. they tend to rust around those holes which then creeps up as a bubble from the bottom. First thing I do is whip the bumper off, treat the area and fill with waxoil.
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Spot on, my E9 sport suffers there- as do most.B7 wrote:Kos wrote:the saloons on the bootlid around the lock but especially on the panel below the lights and bootlid, above the rear bumper. If you take the rear bumper off, theres two holes with grommets in. they tend to rust around those holes which then creeps up as a bubble from the bottom. First thing I do is whip the bumper off, treat the area and fill with waxoil.
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Isn't that expected? I'm sure something like post 97 (ish) up to 2003 (ish) were appaling for rust proofing.Speedtouch wrote:I saw an X-reg Mercedes S-class with some bootlid rust the other day

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Last night i seen an 04 plate jaguar x type last night and the bottom of the drivers door was rotten as

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Jags. Thats another story. Mate has a 99 T XKR and the rear arches are rusty. How much were they new???? And how many T plate e39's do you see with rotten rear arches. I just wouldn't entertain one!town325i wrote:Last night i seen an 04 plate jaguar x type last night and the bottom of the drivers door was rotten as
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My Old man's E-Class has currosion on the centre of the Alloy's. They were like it when he got the car when it was 2 years old. For a top spec car the quality does feel really bad on it IMO. It will take a long time before Merc really restore the faith with it's customers. Also the customer service is shocking, they make my local BMW dealership seem commom and friendly.
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They were, some were reported to rust after 1 year! Merc did then replace panels F.O.C.Falkster wrote:Isn't that expected? I'm sure something like post 97 (ish) up to 2003 (ish) were appaling for rust proofing.Speedtouch wrote:I saw an X-reg Mercedes S-class with some bootlid rust the other day

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Same story for most manufacturers nowadays, poor build quality. Like trev said badly fitting plastic trim will rub through the paint and the panel will start to rust very quickly once its been through a winter or 2.
If they had sealed/waxed the inner arches properly to start with there wouldnt be any issues
God help jag, I expect the panels will soon be bashed out of an indian quality steel
If they had sealed/waxed the inner arches properly to start with there wouldnt be any issues
God help jag, I expect the panels will soon be bashed out of an indian quality steel
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If you want to avoid rust, you need to go French. Yes they're horrible things but they can really build a car body well. You rarely - if ever - see rusty 206/306/406's, Lagunas or Xantias because they used good metal and really laid the underseal on.
Of the German makers, Audi seem to be the best by a long way.
Of the German makers, Audi seem to be the best by a long way.
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i have seen mercs here that have rusted...and we have about an inch of rain a year!

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Steady on Andrew!!!!!Andyboy wrote:If you want to avoid rust, you need to go French.
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Very true. My dad has had Peugeots for the past 20 years and none of them have had any rust. Even my old D plate 205 was rust free. Everything else falls off them admittedly but they do know how to build a car body. The 405 he had in the early 90s was a lovely car - their cars have got progressively worse since then though!Andyboy wrote:If you want to avoid rust, you need to go French. Yes they're horrible things but they can really build a car body well. You rarely - if ever - see rusty 206/306/406's, Lagunas or Xantias because they used good metal and really laid the underseal on.
Of the German makers, Audi seem to be the best by a long way.
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thats cause french cars are so rubbish even rust avoids them 

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I saw a late W202 with rusty rear arches, doors and front wings.
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Many years ago I went to Mahindra dealer with a friend,those jeeps were so shit,the brand news on the forecourt already had rust 

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In India, they wouldn't have it any other way; the home-market models probably don't even have functioning brakes, instead expecting drivers to rely on their sacred cows to save them from crashes! 
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