Frankenstiens creation...

[Cypriotgeeza]

Ok stripped most of the stuff of the 3.5 yesterday only thing im not certain about doing (as i've never done one before) is the timing chain..

the dizzy cap is still attached and i am asking what the procedure is for taking the chain off

should the timing be spot on before the dizzy cap is removed? and if anyone has any pictures to help id greatly appreciate it!!

thanx peeps

[zaust]

First is to remove the tensioner (oil pan to catch the oil)

Just take it all off, Cap, rotor front wheel, cover's the lot. Don't worry about timming as this is all easy when your putting it back together. The chain just let lie loose.

When it's all ready to go back together pm me and i will pm back my number to talk you through it.

[Cypriotgeeza]

nice one mate!

im prob going to pick up where i left off on sunday as i havent had any time this week.

will pm you when its all ready to get back on

[Cypriotgeeza]

i just realised i didnt ask if you have to take the crank pulley completely off? i've heard these bolts are extremely tight

or could i leave the bottom end alone?

[Rav335uk]

Leave the bottom end alone, that crank bolt is a fuckin' pain in the arse if you don't have extension bars to hand.
Are you changing all the gaskets etc...... on the M30?

[Cypriotgeeza]

hoping to yea Rav..sump has been done before so i dont need to bother with that,
will be buying a head gasket set hopefully changing everything!
want to speak to my engineer about polishing the head/inlet while its all off.

lol i've heard they (bottom crank bolt) are notorious and if i could get it to work it wouldnt be too much of a problem, but im doing it on the driveway so its a bit difficult lol

[Rav335uk]

Have you cut the bottom pulley for the ac of yet??
Or the rad won't fit.

[Cypriotgeeza]

The wierd thing is tho Rav there is a smallish rad in there which fits but it was held on with cable ties and there was no fan...hence headgasket failure lol

i will prob get pics up tomorrow of my progress, but im thinking of investing in an E28 rad and fan as i dont trust this small rad

[Rav335uk]

I'm running a E34 rad, Lee parkes is or was running a M20 325 rad with fan and no issues, so it looks like not having a fan was the main cause.

[Cypriotgeeza]

yea im pretty sure it was..as i said ill get some pics tomorrow. the expansion bottle was full of oil..and the oil in the covers are creamy lol

i guess it forced me 2 do this lol

[Rav335uk]

Lets see the pics tomorrow

[Cypriotgeeza]

ok i didnt get a chance to get the head off today but i did get a quick picture of the "water" that i drained from the rad/expansion bottle

ill prob get going again on my day off so more pics to follow

[Rav335uk]

Yep, that's h/gasket alright, well atleast your getting it sorted.
That looks like my Berlingo water at the moment, my h/g is gone too, but been driving it like that for a few months now till I can get it sorted.

[Cypriotgeeza]

i couldnt drive it knowing that was like that lol it was when i went to check the water i just saw pure oil in the expansion bottle, it didnt smoke or anything!

like i said i was planning to rebuild it from the start so this is like a kick up the arse to get it done now lol

Get it sorted Rav! lol

[Rav335uk]

Mine is a diesel, smokes like fook in the morning on first start up, then rest of the day it's fine.
Will get it sorted soon as the van is Important for work.

[Cypriotgeeza]

yea you wouldnt want that packing up on you!

as i said im looking to get the head off on my next day off so ill keep u guys in touch!

[Rav335uk]

[Cypriotgeeza]

As promised guys heres the pics!

ready to come off:-


some more creamy oil lol :-



and the head off





Heres my rad Rav..cant really see how small it is from the pic :


also is this a normal 3.5 injector because i've never seen an injector like this before lol


off to the engineer now

[leeparkes]

Why dont you give the head a 'good' skim like gareth did to raise the compresion, ie more power

iirc he gave it a 1mm skim

[Cypriotgeeza]

lol i did that with my corsa and it was pinking like a good'un after so im a bit weary about it..going to speak to my engineer and see what my options are.

the wierd thing is there was NO headgasket in there

no exhaust gasket either

**EDIT** There was a headgasket in there afterall, it was just very badly damaged!!

[leeparkes]

Drop him a pm, i remember there was a thread in this section discussing it, ill try and find it

[Rav335uk]

No Headgasket!!!!!!
Where did it go?

[leeparkes]

Here

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=skim


And the result


http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=skim

May aswell do it while the heads off, i know i would

[Cypriotgeeza]

i was thinking the same thing!! i took it off and thought ok lets check the damage, then i realised there wasnt even one in there!

either that or it deteriorated so badly lol which i seriously doubt

[Cypriotgeeza]

Here

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=skim


And the result


http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=skim

May aswell do it while the heads off, i know i would

thanx alot mate going to look through them now

[zaust]

Do send the head off for a skim, regardless.

And make sure the head bolt hole are really clean before you put it back together or you will crack the block.

[Cypriotgeeza]

of course! i've never taken a head off a car without getting it skimmed, already got it off so why not?

and i've always ran a tap down the thread to clean them up..especially when the head bolts are as gunky as what came out of the M30 today lol

really considering skimming 1mm off now

[Rav335uk]

really considering skimming 1mm off now

Go for it, it would be rude not too, i'll be doing it in the future.

[Cypriotgeeza]

Its true...i owe it to the M30 to do it lol

ok im ordering a headgasket set and head bolts from GSF but the only headbolts i can find are :
011BM0060 CYL HEAD BOLT SET E34;E36;E38;E39;E46 X5 DIESELS 21.75

all the rest are 520i or 518i's

are they the right ones?

[leeparkes]

Make sure the head gasket from GSF is a Reinz or Elring

Cant help you on the bolts though

[Cypriotgeeza]

I've e-mailed them asking for a Reinz or elring headgasket set and asked about the headbolts aswell.

i take it they are good makes?

[Cypriotgeeza]

Got an e-mail back from GSF and here the correct head bolts you need just incase anyone else is looking to buy them from GSF:-

Hi
Thank you for your order.
The head gasket set will be either Elring or Reinz brand.
The head bolts you have selected are the incorrect ones as they are for the diesel engines and the correct one for the M30 petrol engines are
011BM0071 @ 19.80 for the set

Cant wait to get it all skimmed and back together now

[Cypriotgeeza]

Alright guys the head is going to be at the engineers tomorrow morning for its -1mm skimm

i measured my rad today and its 18inches wide by 14inches tall

is this not ridiculously small for a big 3.5 engine behind it?

[Rav335uk]

What rad is it??

[Cypriotgeeza]

i havent got a clue rav..i put the pics up before but they prob arent very helpful lol