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Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:54 pm

Hi, powered up my obc today to test it and the backlight is dead, you can see the display if you look very closely you can see numbers on there, anyway i pulled the white holder out of the side and unclipped the little circuit board it has 2 bulbs on it, the board is rated at max 10v, what bulbs do i need and where do i get them?
or do i buy the little circuit board from bmw? i couldn`t find it on the ETK i only saw the white plastic holder on there.

any advice greatly appreciated, need to sort this asap so i can finish off putting the dash back together
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:01 pm

just had another look on ETK and the white housing is about 16quid so that must be complete with the circuit board right? p/n: 65 81 1 375 461
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:01 pm

i bought a new bulb from hellfrauds for mine but i still cant see jack shit at nite on it

let me know mate cos i wont mine to light up too :cry:
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:04 pm

the 1.2w bulb in the back is for the buttons, there is a white plastic housing that pulls out from the side, in that is a circuit board with 2 bulbs on
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:05 pm

doh

so replacing these would mean it would light up in the dark then?
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 8:36 pm

i think i`m correct here... it should light up with ignition its only the buttons which come on with the lights
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:22 pm

MATT I BOUGHT A BAG OF THE BULBS FOR Ԛ£3 FROM RS COMPONENTS THEY ARE WIRED IN SERIES SO WHEN ONE BLOWS THE OTHER GOES AS WELL ....I THINK THEY ARE 6V ...BUT I WILL CHECK THE BAG IF YOU WANT A COUPLE ILL SEND THEM TO YOU ....ITS REALLY EASY TO DO TAKES 2 MINUTES
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:37 pm

The bulbs should be 5V, but 6V isn't going to make much difference.
Ones I use are 5V 60mA 0.63 lumens from CPC, order code SC00337.
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:41 pm

I had the same problem, so i put a couple of wires across the white bulb holder and they worked, but didn't when i slid it back into the OBC.. :cry: no idea what's up..??
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 10:50 pm

simonraines wrote:I had the same problem, so i put a couple of wires across the white bulb holder and they worked, but didn't when i slid it back into the OBC.. :cry: no idea what's up..??
The lamps are 5V and series connected, giving a total voltage of 10V, so somewhere in the OBC is something that drops the extra couple of volts. Probably a diode or two, but that's just a guess.
Whatever's in there, is probably your problem
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:03 pm

LED's last longer, and have a brighter output.
They are probably also cheaper.

check this out...
http://s00r.van.wessem.net:81/vehicles/ ... index.html
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:16 pm

smithy318i wrote:LED's last longer, and have a brighter output.
They are probably also cheaper.

check this out...
http://s00r.van.wessem.net:81/vehicles/ ... index.html
Interesting link. I commented on the possibility of using LEDs in a thread on the same subject a while ago, but I didn't know it had already been done and documented.
Consumption is about 20mA by the figures given in the link, so that should just about be OK to leave them continuously lit.
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gazza wrote:MATT I BOUGHT A BAG OF THE BULBS FOR Ԛ£3 FROM RS COMPONENTS THEY ARE WIRED IN SERIES SO WHEN ONE BLOWS THE OTHER GOES AS WELL ....I THINK THEY ARE 6V ...BUT I WILL CHECK THE BAG IF YOU WANT A COUPLE ILL SEND THEM TO YOU ....ITS REALLY EASY TO DO TAKES 2 MINUTES
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my buttons dont light up but my display does

what bulb is for the buttons is it soldered to the bored or is it a normal dash bulb
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:22 pm

what bulb is for the buttons is it soldered to the bored or is it a normal dash bulb
Exactly the same as any other dash bulb. 12V
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Brianmoooore wrote:
smithy318i wrote:LED's last longer, and have a brighter output.
They are probably also cheaper.

check this out...
http://s00r.van.wessem.net:81/vehicles/ ... index.html
Interesting link. I commented on the possibility of using LEDs in a thread on the same subject a while ago, but I didn't know it had already been done and documented.
Consumption is about 20mA by the figures given in the link, so that should just about be OK to leave them continuously lit.
Yeah. I quoted this link when i first joined the zone (way back) and was amazed to find that nobody even thought about LEDs. or new about the page.
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Sun Sep 11, 2005 11:34 pm

thanks to all for the advice, :D

looking at the little circuit board only one bulb is blown so as you guys say thats all i takes as they are wired in series

i`ll get this fixed during the week
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:09 am

Important you change both - they must be matched.
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Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:15 am

yes mate i will thanks

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Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:16 pm

Just done this using link on changing bulbs to led's.
Cost me Ԛ£1.16 for two super bright orange led's and a couple of pence for the resistors, Maplins electronics stock them, cheaper than Ԛ£16.00 quid from the stealers and hopefully will last longer than the bulbs do.
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Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:38 pm

i`ve just done mine with 2x 5v bulbs from RS for 49p each
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:06 pm

Hey, this is a good post am going to try the LED thing soon, but first can anyone tell me how to get the OBC out first before i can change the bulbs?

Thanks
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Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:26 pm

Have a look in the Technical section under retro fitting OBC, 11th paragraph down under fitting tells you what to remove to access the OBC.
Good luck, its reletively easy to change over to led's
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:34 pm

People that link to the website to show how to replace the lights in your OBC with LED's is not working anyone got another link so i can try and do the work tonight?
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 7:45 pm

no worries after a bit of routing around i found the other article

http://newling.no-ip.com/rep/bordcomput ... licht.html
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Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:48 pm

My OBC backlight bulbs blew a few weeks ago, I didn't check the voltage of them and stuck a couple of 12v 1.2 watt bulbs in. It doesn't look any different day or night from when it worked before, perfectly readable. Maybe the bulbs had been changed already.
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they are prob running slightly dimmer being 12v
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Do the LED replacements still dim/brighten with the rest of the dashboard lighting or are they fixed?

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led`s will only be one brightness, as they don`t work like bulbs do
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A1BMW325iSport wrote:just had another look on ETK and the white housing is about 16quid so that must be complete with the circuit board right? p/n: 65 81 1 375 461
where can i get this ETK thing mate?
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how do i get my pics on here lol!!!!!
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Baur323 wrote:Just done this using link on changing bulbs to led's.
Cost me Ԛ£1.16 for two super bright orange led's and a couple of pence for the resistors, Maplins electronics stock them, cheaper than Ԛ£16.00 quid from the stealers and hopefully will last longer than the bulbs do.
:banana:
Any chance of the maplins product numbers? 420 pages of LED related products returned on my search :(
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Mon Oct 24, 2005 1:08 pm

I did mine the weekend looks well bright.

I spoke to the guys in Maplin and got 2 12v LED's there the smallest ones that they did apparently and a 350ohms resistor wired it all up and hey presto its bright enough to see now!!!!!
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Is the display lit evenly as LEDs tend to have very directional light output where normal filament bulbs give a more even light.

A photo would be good...
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If someone gets a few pics before the weekend i can get some then!!

As for directional light my display looks evenly lit from what i could see when i plugged it in!!!!
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Wed Oct 26, 2005 3:12 pm

JJbRacing wrote:
Baur323 wrote:Just done this using link on changing bulbs to led's.
Cost me Ԛ£1.16 for two super bright orange led's and a couple of pence for the resistors, Maplins electronics stock them, cheaper than Ԛ£16.00 quid from the stealers and hopefully will last longer than the bulbs do.
:banana:
Any chance of the maplins product numbers? 420 pages of LED related products returned on my search :(
Try this JJb, sorry for delay in reply

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?Mod ... &doy=26m10
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