just another m30 swap

[charlE30]

My downpipes were heated and twisted, they weren't welded

I wish mine had been like that, would have made things a lot easier for me at the time... crash course in welding anyone lol

[leeparkes]

Here's my un-modified manifold, where its closest to the steering linkage ive marked with a green arrow

If your not going for an E36 rack id leave them be.

[shedrool83]

Will be dropping the engine in tomorrow and going to take a lump hammer to the bay first.
Can someone tell me where it needs to be massaged to make the room.

Would i be right in thinking i need to hit the front of the tunnel up the way to make room for the gearbox bellhousing so i can get the mounts on position three?

[Rav335uk]

Some cars don't need the tunnel bashing , I did mine a bit, but i think Lee didn't.
If you need to, its above the g/box tunnel, but be careful, the brakebars behind that area.

[shedrool83]

Around here then?

[Rav335uk]

Yep, but tbh, it's an engine in, look and take out, plus I had to remove the sound proofing too.
Just remember, that if you ever need to take the rocker cover off, you need the space to allow it to clear the firewall.

[shedrool83]

Thanks Rav

[Rav335uk]

No probs, any more questions, just fire away.
Also, it might be helpful to leave the top 2 bolts of the g/box/engine ones, because if you need to ever change the clutch, it's then a case of, undo the engine mount nuts, take off the prop, g/box mounting, and tilt the lot on the mountings, undo the remaining g/box mounts and off it comes, or if you leave them on, it's an engine out job.
I've left the top 2 out on mine and had no issues.

[leeparkes]

I bashed my baulkhead all over above the tunnel but as rav said be carefull of the brake bar behind the baulkhead.

It only 'really' needs bashing where the head sits, ive got a pic somewhere of the required spot

ill be back

[leeparkes]

But bash more to be sure

[gareth]

mine is in position 2.5, has sound deadening still in place, no bulkhead bashing and all bellhousing bolts fitted.
getting the gearbox off is possible but an utter barsteward! the rocker cover can come off in this position too.

[leeparkes]

mine is in position 2.5, has sound deadening still in place, no bulkhead bashing and all bellhousing bolts fitted.
getting the gearbox off is possible but an utter barsteward! the rocker cover can come off in this position too.

Why arent you in pos 3 Gareth, you know the extra inch always makes a difference


or is it girth

[staley_turbo]

guys, what is this position 2.5 and 3 about?
Ive never removed sound deadening or took a hammer to anywere...

[gareth]

mine is in position 2.5, has sound deadening still in place, no bulkhead bashing and all bellhousing bolts fitted.
getting the gearbox off is possible but an utter barsteward! the rocker cover can come off in this position too.

Why arent you in pos 3 Gareth, you know the extra inch always makes a difference


or is it girth

i'm in P2.5 to avoid all the bulkhead bashing etc it's only 1/2" forward of the P3 position. hey, what's 1/2 between friends

guys, what is this position 2.5 and 3 about?
Ive never removed sound deadening or took a hammer to anywere...

it relates to the engine positions used by hartge and alpina coversions back in the day. e30.de use them as the basis for their engine mount positions and there's various benefits / disadvantages to each position.
P1 is right up forwards
P2 is a bit back from there
P3 is right back up against the bulkhead

P2.5 is the hole i drilled between the P2 and P3 mounting holes on my e30.de mounts

[shedrool83]

Right got the engine in but looks like it will have to come out again .



We managed to get it in to position 2 but it doesnt want to go back any more as it seems the bell housing is hitting the tunnel.

There is plenty room behind the head but the bell housing is hard up to the sound deading.
Looks like the engine will have to come out to remove the deading to get it onto pos 3.

Pics are crap sorry.

[Rav335uk]

Yep, but tbh, it's an engine in, look and take out, plus I had to remove the sound proofing too.
Just remember, that if you ever need to take the rocker cover off, you need the space to allow it to clear the firewall.

Did you read my previous post???

[gcs325i]

Yep, but tbh, it's an engine in, look and take out, plus I had to remove the sound proofing too.
Just remember, that if you ever need to take the rocker cover off, you need the space to allow it to clear the firewall.

Did you read my previous post???

We already had it in position 2 last night when Jake asked about the bulkhead bashing . Should have it sorted and in the correct position tonight. First start up Saturday hopefully, then drive on to the 4 post ramp for the diff change and exhaust fitted.

[Rav335uk]

Remember to start it without the exhaust attached

[shedrool83]

It in sitting in pos 2

Would be back to reconnect everything until Saturday/Sunday but its in .
Looks like i'll have to use the m20 rad for the time being as the e28 m30 rad i bought turns out to be something else as its far to big

[Rav335uk]

Not long now then, make sure you post a Vid on here on the first start up.

[shedrool83]

Will do Rav.

How much of a nightmare is it to get the ecu plug through the m20 gromet?
Where did you connect the earth to the engine i was thinking of connecting it to the engine mount.

[Rav335uk]

Ecu plug will go through the grommet, but it's a pain, you'll have to remove the grommet first, then feed the ecu plug through, and earth goes in the origional place, on the turret.
Remember to turn the ecu 180 degrees as the loom will just reach.

[gareth]

you can remove the shell from the ECU plug, makes it a lot smaller

have you got a pic of that rad? i had to cut the aircon part off my front pulley to clear the radiator

[Rav335uk]

i had to cut the aircon part off my front pulley to clear the radiator

+1

[staley_turbo]

+2

[leeparkes]

have you got a pic of that rad?

+1

Is it too big to go between the chassis rails?
With an E28 rad you need to hack the rad supports off so it slots down deeper between the rails

There's pics of a few rads in my thread when i was having problems, god knows what page

[Rav335uk]

Have you got the plastic "T" piece for the water pipes?

[leeparkes]

There's pics of a few rads in my thread when i was having problems, god knows what page

Page 11 for pics of the E28 rad fitting pita

I posted pics in the M30 sticky of rads too (page 6)

Have you done the spraybar mod

[shedrool83]

I have cut off the air con pully.The rad isnt fitting between the chassis rails (i'll have a look at your pics lee)

I did do the spray bar mod and have the plastic t piece fitted.

[shedrool83]

Can someone give me the dimension of the e28 rad please?

[leeparkes]

Can someone give me the dimension of the e28 rad please?

What do you need measuring? height, depth, etc...

Here's a pic of an e28 rad (ignore the arrow)

[gareth]

The E32 735i rad i have is identical to that apart from the end tank necking in on the passenger side. this prevents it fitting between the chassis rails which is a pain as it was 6 months old when i bought the donor car

[shedrool83]

I'll check it against the pic but if you can give me the len depth and width that be great.

Gareth i aint forgot about getting details of the lpg .I have just been to busy trying to get the lump into the bay mate.I'll deffo have a look at it today.

[shedrool83]

Can someone give me the dimension of the e28 rad please?

What do you need measuring? height, depth, etc...

Here's a pic of an e28 rad (ignore the arrow)

Found a poic of my rad and it does look the same.Hopefully i was wrong and it is the right one i have .

[leeparkes]

Thats an E28 rad although its upside down