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doyley123
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Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:59 pm

Just wondering if the AFM can be removed for better airflow. Thanks Chris
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 5:09 am

no but if you use Mega squirt you can run car alpha N good results to be had ....
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 3:31 pm

In reality it can be removed for a MAF or MAP or even Alpha-n on the original motronic.

I´m working on a few solutions.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 8:33 pm

Just wondering if you could run a similar setup to an s14 with a carbon manifold, for a similar sound out of an m20?
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:42 pm

Sure you can.
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Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:21 pm

So do you have to run throttle bodies then?
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:14 am

Miller MAF is a very simple and effective option. It is a direct replacement for the AFM, is designed for an E30 and wires into the existing loom. I run one on my E30 and it works a treat.

http://www.millerperformancecars.com/

You are only replacing the air flow sensor, not modifying any of the intake system, whether it be the phlemum, throttle body/bodies, etc... In theory, if you have a AFM, you can replace it with a suitable MAF.

Just be aware, the benefits of replacing the AFM with a MAF, or deleting the AFM with a MAP or stand-alone like Alpha N are not great on a standard car unless your AFM is cactus.
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:16 am

Another big thumbs up for Miller here.

Good product, good support = good experience.
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:29 am

doyley123 wrote:So do you have to run throttle bodies then?
No not at all.

You can run your standard intake system.
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:58 am

fully variable auto TPS + std idle/wot and a remap of the stock motronic AFM voltage tables should be all thats required.

some tweaking of the accel enrich possibly, or MAF/MAP

all are possible but quite time consuming.
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:23 pm

so would putting the miller maf conversion on my alpina 2.7 be a good mod???
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Thu Mar 18, 2010 11:41 pm

honestly a very cheap piggyback and a TPS/MAF/MAP can do the same for less
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Tue Mar 30, 2010 10:30 pm

so is this miller maf just plug in and play then?
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Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:00 am

Pretty much ~ except for about 4 wires and a touch of solder.

Have a look here:

http://www.millerperformancecars.com/tech-forum.html

Join up and post and you'll get every question you have answered. Or just email the guys. They're very good at answering correspondence.
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Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:58 pm

AlpineAde wrote:Pretty much ~ except for about 4 wires and a touch of solder.

Have a look here:

http://www.millerperformancecars.com/tech-forum.html

Join up and post and you'll get every question you have answered. Or just email the guys. They're very good at answering correspondence.
nice one buddy, il give that a try!
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Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:34 am

you can convert to use either a certain part numbered volvo MAF or hyundai MAF with motronic. there was a guy that set both up on his 325i in the states and made suitable maps tuned with a wideband. the volvo MAF requires 2 points on a 173 ecu to be bridged with a peice of wire but can support up to something like 300bhp whereas the hyundai unit will only support up to around 230bhp if memmory serves.

i have both maps saved on my laptop along with the map editing software but i havent found either MAF sensor yet and ive sort of put the MAF conversion onto the back burner as of late because i firstly need one of the MAF's and secondly need a chip burner, chips and wideband to monitor everything.
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Fri May 07, 2010 1:47 pm

Interesting thread, be keeping my eye on this for my 2.8 conversion
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Sun May 30, 2010 9:09 am

Dose this maf convertion add more bhp? If so roughly how much ? winkeye
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