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+1 for the proper tyres.
Especially in the VW scene you see lots of cars with the rims sticking right out from the tyre wall and said tyre wall at 45 degrees almost touching the arch. My first thoughts are always "wow that must drive like total s**t.
The mud plugger tread pattern in those pics are a bit much for me though.
Especially in the VW scene you see lots of cars with the rims sticking right out from the tyre wall and said tyre wall at 45 degrees almost touching the arch. My first thoughts are always "wow that must drive like total s**t.
The mud plugger tread pattern in those pics are a bit much for me though.
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Well thats your opinion mate.Dave_M3 wrote:Bullsh!t...325isporttech1 wrote:From my experience stretched tyres improve handling due to reduced tyre flex so less bodyrole/more response.....
......but forget ride quality as it goes out the window completely, especialy if the roads are harsh were you live![]()
Depends what your after realy
Stretched tyres don't offer as much grip as proper width tyres and have far less grip in the wet.
What your going by is low profile tyres feel much better which is true for example 205/55s being shite compared to 205/50s.
A little stretch is fine in my opinion but too much to the point that you can see the whole bead of the rim just looks shite.
I didnt say anything about the wet, all i said was less bodyroll/more response which is true COMPARED to low profiles.
Said nothing about grip either...
I find low profiles shit on e30's anyway for the record i have found the standard tyre set up on 15" bbs's to be the best all round performer.
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i find a mild stretch improves the handling
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
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i've got 4 contis that came with the second set i bought, nearly brand new all 195/40/16's so might see what they look like next week.

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What tyre size is in the pic above?Blitz wrote:In the 80's this was the kind of setup they were using.
Don't like the tread on these...but love the look/stance!
The "stretch" goes with a drastically dropped tech 2 17" deep dished showstopper
these would look
I have had 40 profiles pop off plenty of times and i have even had it happen on a standard steel rimmed pug 306 which was probably 70 profileKos wrote:an over tretch is a negligable risk, but some tyre manufactures say its safe, for example toyo think is fine to mount a 205.40 on to an 8.5 J rim.fishingtourer wrote:if you sent a message to a tyre manufacture reference to fitting overly stretched tyres for road use what do you think they would say about it ? think they would say they are not designed to be mounted like that and they would not advise it one little bit . i dont think i would take the risk personally. bit late when the tyre deflates around a higher speed tight bend after all its the only thing between you and the road, wont be long before the bib and mot law puts a stop to it imo
there is no law saying its ilegal but some police use the FM rule ( being if they look at it and think **** Me then it cant be legal)
i;ve never had a stretched tyre pop off the rim and i drive on stretched tyres and drive the car hard. its takes a a LOT of force to cause it to pop off and break the bead/seal even if the tyre is deflated. but why would you drive on deflated tyre?
any tyre thats some how deflated be it stretched or not is risk

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WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!gafta wrote:HEY GUYS I NEED HELP, I HAVE JUST BOUGHT SOME REP ALPINA ALLOYS FOR MY CONVERTIBLE (BK RACING) 7.5J 17INCH, I BOUGHT THEM WITH OUT TYRES, I AM AFTER A WIDER REAR'S TO GO ON THE BACK , DOSE ANY BODY KNOW WHAT THE WIDEST TYRE WOULD FIT AND LOOK GOOD ON THE CAB? CHEERS

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That'll be why the F1 teams and Touring cars are all going for the stretch look this season. Better handling.Kos wrote:i find a mild stretch improves the handling
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
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You were already at a disadvantage from the start anyway with having 17"scecotto479 wrote:That'll be why the F1 teams and Touring cars are all going for the stretch look this season. Better handling.Kos wrote:i find a mild stretch improves the handling
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
A slight stretch does improve turn-in as it should do as your making the tyre contact patch alittle narrower and the sidewall stiffer which will make the tyre more responsive. But, the limits of grip will be reduced alittle bit through the corner
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those tyre's look terrible :-/ and so does the car tbh! you'd probably find a tramp living in the arch gap one morning
oh and as for stretch haters, i run 185/35's on a 17x8, and never had any problems, even on blackpools gash roads
oh and as for stretch haters, i run 185/35's on a 17x8, and never had any problems, even on blackpools gash roads
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ollie_ wrote:oh and as for stretch haters, i run 185/35's on a 17x8, and never had any problems, even on blackpools gash roads
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place..
sorry mate but they look fu*king terribleollie_ wrote:leeparkes wrote:ollie_ wrote:oh and as for stretch haters, i run 185/35's on a 17x8, and never had any problems, even on blackpools gash roads![]()
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going back to e30's whats wrong with the manufacturers original tyre size, I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they specified tyres for the car
Wouldn't stretched tyres cause potential problems on turn-in in the wet? I would guess that the structure of the tyre at the sidewall is different to the treaded area (e.g. no steel belt). Perhaps someone 'in the know' could advise.
I'm considering 70 profile tyres for my bottletops to deal with the poor state of the roads. I have 15in bbs for track work on 195/50s. I'm not really fussed about looks....
I'm considering 70 profile tyres for my bottletops to deal with the poor state of the roads. I have 15in bbs for track work on 195/50s. I'm not really fussed about looks....
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They indicate to me an impoverished ghetto owner who can't 'stretch' to a proper set of the correct sized tyres.
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not quite as tyre technology in F1 is a whole different thing.cecotto479 wrote:That'll be why the F1 teams and Touring cars are all going for the stretch look this season. Better handling.Kos wrote:i find a mild stretch improves the handling
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
however touring cars, take a carefull look at the front tyre
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on an e36, a 17" not a disadvantageDave_M3 wrote:
You were already at a disadvantage from the start anyway with having 17"s![]()
A slight stretch does improve turn-in as it should do as your making the tyre contact patch alittle narrower and the sidewall stiffer which will make the tyre more responsive. But, the limits of grip will be reduced alittle bit through the corner
with mild stretch, the contact patch is actually flatter
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"whats wrong with the manufacturers original tyre size, I'm sure they knew what they were doing when they specified tyres for the car"
Of course they did when they specified the original tyres, 28 years ago, but since then technology has continued its march forwards. I'm on 16s with run-flat tyres. It's a technology that didn't really exist (or certainly wasn't considered) when the E30 was developed so I can't say whether having a different size would be a good or a bad thing. As it is I run a little bit of stretch to help them clear the suspension struts.
Of course they did when they specified the original tyres, 28 years ago, but since then technology has continued its march forwards. I'm on 16s with run-flat tyres. It's a technology that didn't really exist (or certainly wasn't considered) when the E30 was developed so I can't say whether having a different size would be a good or a bad thing. As it is I run a little bit of stretch to help them clear the suspension struts.
Is that front tyre just raised at the outside edge, not streched - the racing set up of the car means the car sits on the inside edge / tyre wall. it's called camber I think!Kos wrote:not quite as tyre technology in F1 is a whole different thing.cecotto479 wrote:That'll be why the F1 teams and Touring cars are all going for the stretch look this season. Better handling.Kos wrote:i find a mild stretch improves the handling
when i whent from 17's with out a stretch to 17's with tryes stretched on the turn is was sharper, and flet more planted.
however touring cars, take a carefull look at the front tyre
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Ok maybe a bit of stretch as well but not as much as the VW above!
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Extreme stretchBlitz wrote:![]()
Christ, I thought it was getting bad when you could see the whole bead on of the rim on a stretched tyre...
To be able to see the whole well of the rim is going pretty far
@Kos, The sidewalls look like they are stretched on the touring car but the tyre still fits the rim perfectly and the sidewall isn't actually distorted.
To be able to see the whole well of the rim is going pretty far
@Kos, The sidewalls look like they are stretched on the touring car but the tyre still fits the rim perfectly and the sidewall isn't actually distorted.
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I dont like the tread either but I do like the tyre size, from behind it looks like a steam roller..E30NutUK wrote:What tyre size is in the pic above?Blitz wrote:In the 80's this was the kind of setup they were using.
Don't like the tread on these...but love the look/stance!
The "stretch" goes with a drastically dropped tech 2 17" deep dished showstopper
these would lookon a tech 1 pre-facelift coupe, lowered 35/40mm all round sporting a 15/16" dished alloy..
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Not a fan of the stretched tyre look
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