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Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:15 pm

aany1 got their certain way of drifting? obviously purchase an lsd or a welded/ruined diff but any1 have their own certain way of doing it?
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:33 pm

in my old 325 it was poverty stricken with no lsd power steering etc, i would just turn in and boot it, it would have to be wet though
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:06 pm

Having half a metre of snow on the ground helps :D
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:50 pm

LSD, e46 clubsport rack, good handbrake.

Entry with handbrake, turn in slightly then get on the power and opposite lock and feather your way along the corner with the throttle and steering.
thats if you can see all the way through the corner and a good deal of the straight at the other side.
Just wait until half way through the corner the other times and use power or clutch kick if you have to to drift just the later portion of the corner.


Easier said than done though :P



Your best off going to a drift day though, trying to learn on the roads is a waste of time as you can't commit to it fully as your worrying too much about other stuff like hitting ditches/walls/footpaths or about on-coming trafffic or people watching from behind.
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:51 pm

Bald tyres :D
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:57 pm

Alex wrote:Bald tyres :D
And no IS lip spoiler ay Alex? :teehee:
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 9:58 pm

Ollie_bwoii wrote:
Alex wrote:Bald tyres :D
And no IS lip spoiler ay Alex? :teehee:
only if your thinking of doing it near road works :)
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Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:06 pm

turn in sharp and drop it into 2nd, or handbrake it on entry then put your foot down!
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:25 am

Feel for the weight shift on a turn in.

If you have plenty of time and space before the corner....

If turning right, flick the car a tiny bit (but quickly) to the left and the right side gets all the weight. Straight after flick right and the whole weight will 'shift' from one side to the other. At that exact moment hoof it! I think that is often called the 'scandinavian flick' (i've been told, anyway... ). That way, you could even make a 316i venture sideways in the dry!

When you have power on the other hand.... spin up the wheels before you reach the corner and gently turn in. Then as you progessively turn in the car will slowly start edging out. At this point i let go of the steering wheel so it can freely spin and catch it at the right time to stop it full locking and angle the car.

First method would be a classic way to spin 180 and kill yourself. Second requires a powerful, responsive car and would be better for longer less curved corners and starting very large doughnuts!

Otherwise, turn in and stamp the loud pedal will skip the car out well for little slow speed sideways moments round junctions!
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:29 am

Scandinavian Flick with Colin McRae!

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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:28 pm

Well said Nay!!!

Seems like you manage to have fun over there while having to stick to the 40mph limit winkeye


The scandinavian flick can get very scary alright if you have a boaty car with it spinning around or even just sliding in the wrong direction when you try flick it while shift-locking or pulling the handbrake and there isn't a whole lot you can do to turn it back sometimes :P
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:40 pm

too much speed too much throttle and some balls.. let it go wild!!
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:42 pm

easiest way to drift is DONT :D

Go buy an e34 for that you wont mind as much then when you stack it..
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:49 pm

easy way to drift is on your xbox :mad:
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:58 pm

never got drifting myself ? tyres are expensive are they not - leave drifting to the movies
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:29 pm

Personally, I think if your gonna do it, do it properly on a track and not in the streets... I hate the thought of some prick hitting another car and killing someones mrs or baby just because they wanted to drive like a plonker. Drifting ain't for UK roads... Keep it on the track and get some proper training is the best way, not on a forum... :)
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:34 pm

Drifting any RWD car is usually quite easy, given a damp road and a sharp turn-in; I even managed it in a 594cc 22bhp Fiat 126.
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:39 pm

Jim320i wrote:Personally, I think if your gonna do it, do it properly on a track and not in the streets... I hate the thought of some prick hitting another car and killing someones mrs or baby just because they wanted to drive like a plonker. Drifting ain't for UK roads... Keep it on the track and get some proper training is the best way, not on a forum... :)
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:58 pm

325isporttech1 wrote:easiest way to drift is DONT :D

Go buy an e34 for that you wont mind as much then when you stack it..
why an e34, e30's go broadside and there are plenty left yet to thrash and smash :D
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:17 pm

and the more that get smashed, the more valuable mine is winkeye
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:24 pm

For me, the only reason I have an e30 is due to it being rwd & good handling.

Everyone wants to drift, dont they? :D
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:35 pm

Step 1, buy a welder.........

Step 2, learn Japanese, even if you can't drift people will still be impressed

Step 3, Buy some f4ck off big cable ties and then remove bumpers/spoilers etc and
reattach badly using cable ties

Step 4, Drive everywhere with 3 or 4 old wheels/tyres on your back seat

Step 5, Go around your car kicking it hard, if there are no big wounds people will think you are
not trying hard enough

Step 6, Watch out for parked cars/people/animals/big kerbs/lamp posts / cops
road signs/cctv/McDs drive thrus ........


Step 7, Get 'diffin ! :)
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Kos wrote:ANIMALS :twisted:

Sideways into a cow is no laughing matter ! :eek:
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pacerpete wrote:
Kos wrote:ANIMALS :twisted:

Sideways into a cow is no laughing matter ! :eek:
i was laughing when i heard you rear ended a monkey :P
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Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:46 pm

just go to a car park at night, mfi one in my area obv closed down theres a huge car park which is completely dead, need 2 watch out for lamposts though
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pacerpete wrote:
Sideways into a cow is no laughing matter !
I impressed a couple of horses standing in a field today, traversing a steep mud/snow/ice covered hill in my Freelander, putting its Traction Control and Hill Descent control to full use winkeye
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Tue Feb 16, 2010 12:45 am

Its the fecking rabbits and cats are the dark-horses out there... they make a lovely job of your iS lips.

Although, if you have some cable ties to stitch it back together, your one step closer to being driftking!!! :mad:


Drifting on the roads is a waste of time if you want to do it properly though. Anybody can get a little slide on the end of a corner safely when things are quite.
A track is much more fun when you can go into a corner far too fast than you should be going and only have abit of grass or gravel to worry about if you actually are going too fast :D


I perfer driving quickly on a nice road anyday over wanting to drift however if I had to choose.
Drifting is just a nice alternative to make driving more interesting.
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Bob_S wrote:
325isporttech1 wrote:easiest way to drift is DONT :D

Go buy an e34 for that you wont mind as much then when you stack it..
why an e34, e30's go broadside and there are plenty left yet to thrash and smash :D
e30's are generaly worth more and too good to trash(most of them),an e34 is more something to destruct without feeling bad as there is still thousands of the things about for peanuts,and they feel like they are built to do it :D

From my experience e34's are easier to 'drift' and act the fool in than an e30, might just be me but i always find you can tell what the arse end is doing more on a e34 or e39 than an e30 or e36 8O
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I agree in the E34s and E39s seem more stable when drifting. They seem to just sit there at a nice angle until you decide what you want to do next with it

An E30 takes constant adjustment to stay sliding nicely or "snappy" in comparison although then you have the fact a well setup E30 is far more chuck-able than the E34.

E36s can sometimes just have too much grip to mess about with. Coil-overs make a huge difference to them however.
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Dave_M3 wrote:
An E30 takes constant adjustment to stay sliding nicely or "snappy" in comparison although then you have the fact a well setup E30 is far more chuck-able than the E34.
I dare say they are, i guess ive never had a great setup on an e30. My 1st was a stock tech1 which was snappy and the second is this 325i touring which is pretty much stock :)
E34's just seem to be able to do it 'out-of-the-box' but overall im an e30 man and not a huge fan of the e34.
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Friend has always liked e34s and has had countless E36 M3s and has always said the E36 was shite in most cases apart from one or two that had coil-overs and things which was about right and he was really turned off E36s because of their wobbly handling due to poor rear end bushes in most cases.

He always said the E34s drift so much better and feel more stable in corners which I agree as I was even impressed by a 525i I had for a week or two and was pretty nice to drive and on a wet road it seemed to just be happy staying sideways as something like a 200sx.

He said his E39 M5 was even better again as an overall car

He was never really impressed by E30s that much until he drove a well setup 320 (soon to have a b25 or b28) a week or two ago with B8s, Eibachs and a 4.45 diff and he couldn't believe how nimble it was.

And thats inspired him to make a fast-road/track car of a 325i Sport he bought not that long ago with either an S50 or M60 depending if its more road or track orientated.
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Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:37 am

Trouble is,

Most peoples idea of "drifting" is just controlling a power slide on a corner - which is where all the "driftings easy in a RWD" type comments come from.

Proper drifting is about entering a series of turns already on full lock at full speed for that corner and then negotiating it as smoothly and precisely as possible, transitioning for the next corner to be taken as fast and sideways as possible, whilst never straightening up. Thats alot more difficult and is best practiced away from public roads.

You're best choice would be to go to a Drift What Ya Brung day at Santa Pod, which is organised by a nice man called Lex, and is easily findable through Pods website or google. You can even hire suitable drift cars for the day if you dont want to damage your own car or feel it doesnt have the necessary diff or setup to make it worthwhile.

Try it out, its fun and will teach you more about car control and balance than you ever imagined.

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Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:52 am

Bladerider wrote:Trouble is,

Most peoples idea of "drifting" is just controlling a power slide on a corner - which is where all the "driftings easy in a RWD" type comments come from.

Proper drifting is about entering a series of turns already on full lock at full speed for that corner and then negotiating it as smoothly and precisely as possible, transitioning for the next corner to be taken as fast and sideways as possible, whilst never straightening up. Thats alot more difficult and is best practiced away from public roads.

You're best choice would be to go to a Drift What Ya Brung day at Santa Pod, which is organised by a nice man called Lex, and is easily findable through Pods website or google. You can even hire suitable drift cars for the day if you dont want to damage your own car or feel it doesnt have the necessary diff or setup to make it worthwhile.

Try it out, its fun and will teach you more about car control and balance than you ever imagined.

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Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:55 am

Indeed.

Its quite difficult for most onlookers to realise, but proper drifting is already kinda done and dusted before you even get to the corner. Your choices should have been made by then and you're already commited !!

We're grabbing the wand at 100mph 100yards or more before the apex at somewhere like Silverstone, Brands or Knockhill.

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