Diff tag identification
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Got told from a friend he had an e30 slipper,went to view it just now and if i hold one of the output shafts and turn the input, the other output shaft turns. This to me means its NOT an lsd. Ive took the tag and cleaned it and it says :
345 608
would this mean the ratio is 3.45:1?
What does the 608 mean?
is there a letter code to identify LSD?
345 608
would this mean the ratio is 3.45:1?
What does the 608 mean?
is there a letter code to identify LSD?
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345 would suggest a 3.45:1 ratio differential
If it was a limited slip differential, firstly both output shafts would turn in unison the same way and second there would be a 'S' before the 345.
Seems to me your friend's told you a porkie there
If it was a limited slip differential, firstly both output shafts would turn in unison the same way and second there would be a 'S' before the 345.
Seems to me your friend's told you a porkie there

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looks like it's not a LSD, or if it is, it'll need a serious rebuild
the best way to be totally sure is to open up the casing.
if you can see the planet gears through large holes in the centre spindle, it's an open diff.
if the centre spindle is more 'solid' and the gears (apart from the crownwheel and pinion) are hidden, it's a LSD
the lack of 'S' and the way the diff behaves seems to indicate a non-LSD.
a handy ratio for M30 conversions though so may be of use to someone
the best way to be totally sure is to open up the casing.
if you can see the planet gears through large holes in the centre spindle, it's an open diff.
if the centre spindle is more 'solid' and the gears (apart from the crownwheel and pinion) are hidden, it's a LSD
the lack of 'S' and the way the diff behaves seems to indicate a non-LSD.
a handy ratio for M30 conversions though so may be of use to someone
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It could just possibly be a torsen type LSD, as fitted to more modern BMW's.
These behave exactly like an open diff. in the common tests, so opening it up is the only way to identify one of these. Look for numerous long thin spiral gears in the diff. cage.
These behave exactly like an open diff. in the common tests, so opening it up is the only way to identify one of these. Look for numerous long thin spiral gears in the diff. cage.
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that's not a number code i recognise. could be a factory reconditioned unit as i believe these had a different numbering system.
whip the back off and have a look inside, and post up a few pics
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Two sizes of diffs are fitted to E30,'small' has 6 bolts to the rear cover,and 'medium',which has 8 bolts to the rear cover.
3.45 was made in both sizes,although in the smaller case it was fitted behind the 324d engine!
3.45 was made in both sizes,although in the smaller case it was fitted behind the 324d engine!
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what type of LSD was installed on e30?daimlerman wrote:Two sizes of diffs are fitted to E30,'small' has 6 bolts to the rear cover,and 'medium',which has 8 bolts to the rear cover.
3.45 was made in both sizes,although in the smaller case it was fitted behind the 324d engine!
I know AWD has visco-LSD but what RWD: friction plates or torsen?
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Friction. Torsen diffs only started to appear to be compatible with stability control systems.
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Those are just casting numbers, and no real help in identifying the diff.
There should be a metal tag under one of the bolts holding the rear cover on. If this is missing, take the rear cover off to identify if it's a slipper or not, and count the teeth on the crown wheel and pinion to determine the ratio.
There should be a metal tag under one of the bolts holding the rear cover on. If this is missing, take the rear cover off to identify if it's a slipper or not, and count the teeth on the crown wheel and pinion to determine the ratio.
thanks. I will try it.Brianmoooore wrote:Those are just casting numbers, and no real help in identifying the diff.
There should be a metal tag under one of the bolts holding the rear cover on. If this is missing, take the rear cover off to identify if it's a slipper or not, and count the teeth on the crown wheel and pinion to determine the ratio.