Alloy wheel banding(Wider rims)

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Guys, thought this would be of interest.
There is a company who will widen, yes widen Alloy wheels.

Now imagine a set of Alpinas with 8j on the front and 9j on the rear. winkeye

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Banded-alloy-whee ... 1e589af855
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Interesting, wonder how 'safe' it is though :?

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Well it's new technology, so don't know, but I bet alot of people have this done.

16" Alpina's with 9j rears winkeye
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If it works, it's ideal.

11J rear and 9J front :cool:
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Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:37 pm

ImysE30 wrote:Interesting, wonder how 'safe' it is though :?
I'd be a bit wary of this myself. Sounds too good to be true...
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Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:53 pm

i'd be wary too. 'alloy' is a mixture of metals, different makes of alloy wheels will use different materials, and the weld is going to have to be different for different types.

on the other hand, people have been welding up cracks etc in alloy wheels for years so there must be a way to do it :mad:
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I think my style 5's need to be 11j rears winkeye
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It's just the same as banding steel wheels, except the alloy wheels have a thicker wall.

However, alloy wheels are probably made of a random grade of aluminium, which needs a matching grade of welding rod, which is difficult to get right first time.

I'd say it's safe enough.
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i hope his welding is better than his spelling :wink:
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11.5j :cool:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh ... ht=widened


Anyone done it yet?

im so tempted winkeye
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It looks like he hasn't actually done anything to the actual structure to compromise saftey of the wheel, he's added width to the outside edge, so looking at that, i'd be happy to have a go on the Alpinas. :cool:
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Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:29 am

Ive heard it can be done by cutting the inner edge off one wheel then welding it to the wheel to be widened that way you only have one weld on the rim, ie buy 8 standard bottle tops, cut a 3" band off the inner edge then weld it to the outer edge giving you 9j bottle tops :cool:

Obviously they have to be cut off with a lathe and balanced etc

Do you know anyone who could do this?
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Sat Feb 20, 2010 4:46 pm

widened bottletops ftw :)

been in contact with the guy though he says to add 2" front and 3" rear to bottletops is gonna cost £100 a wheel, but because there old and BMW made there gonna be a good alloy compound, so should be safe enough. however i think he states show use only...

also asked how much to give a fake split look to them which he said he will look into :D
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chidley wrote:widened bottletops ftw :)

been in contact with the guy though he says to add 2" front and 3" rear to bottletops is gonna cost £100 a wheel, but because there old and BMW made there gonna be a good alloy compound, so should be safe enough. however i think he states show use only...
He has to say that to cover his own arse, ie if you belt it up the gutter and it splits its not he's problem.
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I'm very tempted to try ...I do need a spare 14" steel for that time and if it's only £200 it's cheaper then buying some wide wheels
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Tue Feb 23, 2010 8:51 pm

i may look into this for my borbets.. havin 9j on the rear an 7.5 up front. save me tryin to find two more 9s???
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Sun Feb 28, 2010 9:22 am

I would love nothing more then a staggered set of bottle tops It would be :cool: Only BMW people would know that there is something different about the wheels.. Everyone else would just think they where factory grandma wheels....

I would absolutely consider getting 2 bottle tops done as this is exactly what I want on my car. But damn I live in Australia... I am 100% serious on this..
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Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:59 pm

lads just like to say a guy i used to know had a engineering company and banded some steelies for the dub scenea and banded some alloys , its totally safe , just like normal rims , i had a set of banded steelies for my misses polo. fronts 8.25 rears 9" and never had any probs!!!
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I'm in contact with those guys from Qubewheels.co.uk and they offered us trade discount and a better price on multiples of same jobs

Can a mod allow me to do a topic on group buys and discounts with what they offer and post some pictures?

Thanks
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StefanAnghel wrote:I'm in contact with those guys from Qubewheels.co.uk and they offered us trade discount and a better price on multiples of same jobs

Can a mod allow me to do a topic on group buys and discounts with what they offer and post some pictures?

Thanks
Id be interested :D
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Been in contact and it appears 15" bbs dont have a big enough lip to start with.

Just waiting on an email for confirmation.
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MMMMMM, 9j Alpinas anyone :mad:
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I've got 9J Alpinas on my 328i. :P
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minicooper172 wrote:I've got 9J Alpinas on my 328i. :P
Oh, I meant turning some 8x16's to 9 x 16 4 x 100 :mad:
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My style 5's are booked in for 10 or 11j rears. Need to decide by tuesday as they get picked up
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How much?
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Rav335uk wrote:
minicooper172 wrote:I've got 9J Alpinas on my 328i. :P
Oh, I meant turning some 8x16's to 9 x 16 4 x 100 :mad:
I figured, just wanted to rub it in a bit. :P

I could do it if you really wanted them wider?

Don't ruin geniune Alpinas - get some BKs to do it with. :D
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