My abort MOT.

[bss325i]

Yes i think his name was Simon.

Dont remember any pedo jokes but his humor was rubbish!

[hennabm]

He's actually the guy in charge of all the trainers who train you to become an MOT tester so its fair to say he knows what hes talking about when it comes to all things MOT.

Having done the test recently. (Mitcham) I will point out that anyone that works for VOSA doesnt know **** all about cars Those who can do. Those who can't teach

If they passing people that are so ignorant as to lose fingers when putting their hands near a running engine what does that tell you! Saying that, they passed a guy on my course that appeared to have never worked on a car in the last 20 years!

oh so you are a tester. well, you should know that some older cars only had marginal cooling to begin with.

You should also know that any damage caused by a garage during an MOT and the garage is libel.

I just hope that your garage has a good insurance policy should one decide to boil over.

[ucpsale]

Hello, thank you for all the FB. I have taken my vehical to another MOT tester and he passed my car with no faults, so my 89 525 has a years MOT.

[ucpsale]

I have MOT vehicals B7 a lot, so i know when someone takes the p@ss, you know nothing if you think it is a honest trade.

[Rich_W]

oh so you are a tester. well, you should know that some older cars only had marginal cooling to begin with.

You should also know that any damage caused by a garage during an MOT and the garage is libel.

I just hope that your garage has a good insurance policy should one decide to boil over.

And therein lies the smugger than smug thing they repeated ad fininitum on the course.
"if it breaks its your fault"
"if you damage the car its your fault"
"if you do x, y, or Z we'll take your smart card from you"

Always pleasent to be lumped together as a group of back street bodgers who destroy every car we even look at.

Out of curiosity, what did you do before you worked for VOSA?

[rhubarb]

what a crock of shit, if a car boils over its the mot stations fault?! get real..

so if a cambelt goes ping on a emissions test or smoke test..I think you'll find there's notices to say that its under owners risk, words to that effect..

Makes me laugh does all this, the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

[Jesus325iTouring]

the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

Me too

The R5's going in for MOT soon

That said I don't know all of them,but enough to get my ticket without much bother

[B7]

I have MOT vehicals B7 a lot, so i know when someone takes the p@ss, you know nothing if you think it is a honest trade.

Yeah thanks for that

[hennabm]

what a crock of shit, if a car boils over its the mot stations fault?! get real..

so if a cambelt goes ping on a emissions test or smoke test..I think you'll find there's notices to say that its under owners risk, words to that effect..

Makes me laugh does all this, the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

I think you will find that if the garage has failed to conduct the necessary pre checks before an MOT and the likes of the cambelt goes during a smoke test, then the garage is liable, in some part at least. This is a proven point with a number of court cases in favour of the presenter.

Garages are not allowed to put up disclaimers regarding damage to the vehicle.

[Rich_W]

what a crock of shit, if a car boils over its the mot stations fault?! get real..

so if a cambelt goes ping on a emissions test or smoke test..I think you'll find there's notices to say that its under owners risk, words to that effect..

Makes me laugh does all this, the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

I think you will find that if the garage has failed to conduct the necessary pre checks before an MOT and the likes of the cambelt goes during a smoke test, then the garage is liable, in some part at least. This is a proven point with a number of court cases in favour of the presenter.

Garages are not allowed to put up disclaimers regarding damage to the vehicle.

Rhubarb.

This is the problem with VOSA people they have evidently no experinece of the real world. "pre-checks" as if looking at a cambelt is sufficuent to know if it will fail. As looking at a radiator will know if its about to start leaking? It's a job for pedantic, anal types who like to feel like they have some control over other peoples lives. If VOSA and the MOT was worth a shit it would be far more stringent. Similar to Germany's TUV, but it isn't as its been designed by idiots!

[E21meister]

MOT stations are a bit like barbers, if you get a good one you'll keep going back. My mate has an MOT station (hear me out), and does all of my cars, BUT if he thought I was trying to get a shed passed he'd say so. And while testers should respect that, regardless of condition, they're testing someone else's property, I'd rather know if there is a serious fault that needs doing.
But having said that, when in the past I've has a car failed in a different station because the orange paint had flaked off on a rear indicator bulb, and that the same light was ever-so-slightly dimming when the indicator was flashing...

[rhubarb]

what a crock of shit, if a car boils over its the mot stations fault?! get real..

so if a cambelt goes ping on a emissions test or smoke test..I think you'll find there's notices to say that its under owners risk, words to that effect..

Makes me laugh does all this, the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

I think you will find that if the garage has failed to conduct the necessary pre checks before an MOT and the likes of the cambelt goes during a smoke test, then the garage is liable, in some part at least. This is a proven point with a number of court cases in favour of the presenter.

Garages are not allowed to put up disclaimers regarding damage to the vehicle.

the tester should ask the question, when was the belt changed, if its overdue, then the customer takes the risk..

holding a car at 2500rpm for a cat test, is not putting the belt at risk..the biggest risk time for a belt is at start up..

[rhubarb]

what a crock of shit, if a car boils over its the mot stations fault?! get real..

so if a cambelt goes ping on a emissions test or smoke test..I think you'll find there's notices to say that its under owners risk, words to that effect..

Makes me laugh does all this, the mot is a minimum standard...I could get an absolute heap through a mot test...cos I know all the loop holes..

I think you will find that if the garage has failed to conduct the necessary pre checks before an MOT and the likes of the cambelt goes during a smoke test, then the garage is liable, in some part at least. This is a proven point with a number of court cases in favour of the presenter.

Garages are not allowed to put up disclaimers regarding damage to the vehicle.

Rhubarb.

This is the problem with VOSA people they have evidently no experinece of the real world. "pre-checks" as if looking at a cambelt is sufficuent to know if it will fail. As looking at a radiator will know if its about to start leaking? It's a job for pedantic, anal types who like to feel like they have some control over other peoples lives. If VOSA and the MOT was worth a shit it would be far more stringent. Similar to Germany's TUV, but it isn't as its been designed by idiots!

faceless wonders

a good tester should be firm but fair, the problem really lies with some of the rulebook that have to stick too..

Also joe public think the mot is a service, and that the car is perfectly 100% safe, when as you and I know, its a minimum standard.

[gareth]

I've has a car failed in a different station because the orange paint had flaked off on a rear indicator bulb, and that the same light was ever-so-slightly dimming when the indicator was flashing...

it should do more than just "ever so slightly" dim... it's the indicator bulb

[daimlerman]

a good tester should be firm but fair,

A bit like a good moderator,then.....
Play fair,please...

[town325i]

Hey, if your car cant run for 40mins without blowing up or shitting iself. Maybe that says more for your car

it dont say alot about your does it that if it cant idle for 40 minutes with breaking down

[dobbie82]

I was at work experience in a garage and one of the testers saw a car pull up and said "right, i'm gonna kill this one!" (an F plate ford escort in 2003) and it did fail and never saw the road again. It needed the fail as the rubber hammer knocked holes in the sills but he set out with the intention to kill it.

Is it true that they have to stay within a certain percentage of tests and fails?

[Jesus325iTouring]

Is it true that they have to stay within a certain percentage of tests and fails?

That'll be one of those myths when you'll never know if it's ture or not,similar to pass/fail of driving tests.

[murran]

Is it true that they have to stay within a certain percentage of tests and fails?

That'll be one of those myths when you'll never know if it's ture or not,similar to pass/fail of driving tests.

it is partly true. think about it...... vosa have now a huge data bank on every car on the roads. they know the averages of what cars fails on what at what milages and how often in different parts of the country etc. they'll be able to put any criteria in and pull information out.
they do do this for individual garages and sometimes testers.
the last visit we had from vosa i saw one of these performance reports showing percentages of cars id failed under about 30 main component headings. against the national average and south yorkshires averages.
one of the things they asked was; they wanted to know why some of my failure items were slightly above or slightly below the average.
simply said we test alot of vag cars that maybe more prone to fail or not on different things compared to average of all cars on the road.

[Jesus325iTouring]

Is it true that they have to stay within a certain percentage of tests and fails?

That'll be one of those myths when you'll never know if it's ture or not,similar to pass/fail of driving tests.

it is partly true. think about it...... vosa have now a huge data bank on every car on the roads. they know the averages of what cars fails on what at what milages and how often in different parts of the country etc. they'll be able to put any criteria in and pull information out.
they do do this for individual garages and sometimes testers.
the last visit we had from vosa i saw one of these performance reports showing percentages of cars id failed under about 30 main component headings. against the national average and south yorkshires averages.
one of the things they asked was; they wanted to know why some of my failure items were slightly above or slightly below the average.
simply said we test alot of vag cars that maybe more prone to fail or not on different things compared to average of all cars on the road.

Very interesting,sounds like there is some substance to the myth..........sadly!

[daimlerman]

Be interesting to see the 'stats for E30...