Smeared paintwork

Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:34 pm

Does anybody know how to stop this happening?
It seems no matter what I use on the paint it always leaves a smeared finish.
This morning ive gone over the panels with panel wipe to remove all wax products, this left a clean, solid finish. But as soon as I apply a product to it it just smears again.
I did the bootlid first, spraying panel wipe with an atomiser and wiping over with a microfibre cloth, then used some AG Ultra Deep Shine polish which is supposedly designed for dark colours but when buffed off it was smeared again, went over with AG High Def wax and just seemed to move the smears around.

I panel wiped the bonnet and polished, then panel wiped again before wax. This left a similar crap finish

The roof was panel wiped then straight to wax, crap again.

I couldnt be bothered with the rest

In the shade it looks fantastic, but in direct sunlight its a right state

Heres some pics

Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:49 pm

You're turning into a bufty mate

Is that front wing done now?

Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:56 pm

Im not turning into a bufty, I just want the car to look clean on the rare occasion I can be arsed to put the effort in!

Wing is done yes, its a great job and im well happy. I would have taken a pic but I was too angry

Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:19 pm

Sounds like marring to me, most likly from the deep shine.

Try using Autoglym super resin (or similar) if you have some, buy hand. As I'm guessing you don't own a DA polisher or a rotary? But use a very small amount (pea size for a 10x10" area.

Work it until clear then buff with a clean microfiber.

Then apply your wax, leave for 20 mins. Then buff. Then I would go round the waxed area with a detailing spray and a soft cloth(fluffy microfiber) this will remove any excess wax left and also bring a much better clarity to the paint.

Failing that these could be RDS in the paint and it will need machine polishing with some harsher abrasives and or a flatting with some sandpaper.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 1:29 pm

Ive tried SRP before which is why I bought the Deep Shine Polish as its supposed to be for dark colours

Its not in the paint, every time I apply a product the smears move

Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:06 pm

I had the very same problem with the Ultra Deep Shine mate, don't use it. It seems to leave a greasey layer that makes the pain look awful in direct sunlight. The smear marks you are getting are where there is more polish left on that sweep compared to the paint around it.

As Tez said, use the super resin as he intructed then put a thin coat on high definition wax on. Keep the sponge very damp though to ensure you get even thin coverage.

After all this mist each panel with a quick detailer and lightly buff offf with a fluffy microfibre to even the finish out.

That's what I'd do anyway.

Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:03 pm

What are quick detailers made of? Are there any differences or better types to go for?

I cant see how it is the deep shine as I went over it with panel wipe to remove it, it must be too much wax on the panel, its not easy to apply a small amount as the sponge just rolls up in your hand

Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:30 pm

For the money the best one is Megs last touch used neat as a QD or dilute it with some RO or filtered water.

Megs here: http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/detailing ... d_225.html

Or if your feeling a little show'n'shiney this stuff is amazing applied 1 day after a wax :http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/zaino/zai ... d_471.html

What I tend to do with hard wax's is mist(very light) the foam pad with some QD first then apply the wx to the pad but you really do need bugger all.

Then use that amount to do nearly a whole panel, the thinner the better.

Apply it in small circle motions to ensure a even light film.

Never RUB it into the paint, as a Wax is just a LSP and the rubbing motion/firction will cause more damage than you think. (marring)

Hope that helps?

Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:39 pm

Thanks, I will try and get some megs from halfrauds.
I find it hard to apply the wax without pressure as the sponge drags and rolls up if there isnt enough wax on. It looks like too much wax is definitely the problem though

Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:43 pm

Yeah more than likely! - I would stay clear of halfuads, far to expensive. Get Last touch by the bulk as you will soon use it up.

Also the wax applicator you get with Hd wax is in my opinion very poor indeed.

These are far far better :-

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessori ... d_280.html

or

http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/accessori ... od_89.html

Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:09 pm

I managed to buy the last bottle of megs quick detail spray on the shelf, there was no price tag and the till didnt recognise it so I got it at a knocked down price of £4.99

Just had a quick go with it and its making the finish a hell of a lot better, its hard to see as the sun has nearly gone for the day but it is taking quite a bit of rubbing in to get rid of the streaks

Ultimate German Applicator on order

I may even get a decent finish before the car gets put away for winter

Thanks for the help

Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:20 pm

dan ultra deep shine is the bastard in autoglyms range

its designed for modern water based paints as well.

1st up, the german applicator. thats a good idea. keep it damp when using the SRP. work it in well then buff off. pannel by pannel is best. a quick squirt of quick detailer helps remover any smears you may have. but the quick detailer does not like warm pannels that much and ,may smear as well, so may be worth mixing it 50/50 with water. mist it on with one microfibe and buff iff with an other

Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:39 pm

Well the german applicator isnt getting bought, £5 postage just isnt going to happen

So its either this - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Meguiars-Soft-Foa ... 107wt_1167

Or this - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Autoglym-Perfect- ... 2919wt_991

If the quick detailer will work just as well diluted 50/50 it sounds like a good idea to me

Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:52 pm

Microfibre...........Quick Detailer.............German Applicator..........Apply a product. Good god man!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:54 pm

Your one of the biggest buftys on here Paul

Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:34 pm

any of the foam applicators will work

autoglym do a small sponge applicator as well

detailing = OCD lol

Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:49 pm

It may be OCD but there is a limit to how much I will get involved, if the results are not going to be near perfect I really cant be arsed

Ive ordered the autoglym palm applicator, I read this bit and was sold! "The unique design with 'self grip' characteristics helps improve efficiency and comfort, leading to a reduction in effort when carrying out tasks involved in cleaning and polishing your car."

Perfect!

Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:23 am

LoL

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:50 am

So much paedo action !

Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:33 pm

Too many Chomos

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:26 pm

Simon13 wrote:Too many Chomos

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:34 pm

What do you wash it with cooking oil?
Ive never had this

Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:51 pm

porn of the vilest nature

cleaning routine

wait till cars looking an unknown colour

go to jet wash soak car and forecourt

drive away

ps ignore large patches you missed

pps i am still driving the e36