driving without LSD...dangerous?

[E30Gheko]

I've had a few hairy moments with the back end stepping out on mine especially in the wet. (open dif)

I'd love to get it onto somewhere safe to work out what would happen if it really went and how easy it was to control. It's usually the point at which my bottle unfortunately goes these days.

I have at the very least worked out how to avoid it stepping out and at what speeds I can safely negotiate bends etc.

[dimebag_from_hell]

I don't think you can blame an lsd for driving like a cooont!

The LSD's on e30's are pure shite anyway.

[Barx325i]

how much for the IS??

A lot once you've recovered it back from Croatia..

lol

If anything the LSD is going to make the average driver prang it more easily.

open diffs are much more forgiving, so he was either protecting his pride

..or he was being a dick, but didn't manage to unweight the outside wheel and spooned it waiting for the tail to step out

either way driver error

[brewer]

lsd all the way to open diff you can have incredible fun with them if you can drive but you still have to be carefull on the wet roads adjust your driving style to the weather COMMON SENSE!!!!!

[Barx325i]

I'd have said the elise wheelbase is way short to roll out LSD's to the unwitting yuppie sort..

[maxfield]

yep, but you can buy lsds for them

for what it's worth, my compact is a lot more snappy in the wet when it breaks traction with an open dif than the lsd equipped m3.

i've always found the e30 to be pretty friendly in the wet, you don't need to drive like a granny, just have a light touch and understand whats going on. ice and frost is a different matter though

Agreed.

E30's are great fun in the wet. But I found mind to snap back once or twice.

[hongkongfuey]

you still have to be carefull on the wet roads adjust your driving style to the weather COMMON SENSE!!!!!

i agree with this, i had an lsd on mine for a while, i took it into a big carpark to test where the breaking point was, i was suprised how quickly it broke away from me "raining". i'm not a crap driver but no drifter either . going home after, went round a roundabout, arse end straight out just managed to hold on, i'd done that route home 100's of times in the wet and had a play, i spose you need to get used to the lsd, its slightly different driving , i'm happy with open, also sold it for same money i bought it , and got an open one for £35

[Barx325i]

a lot is down to damper & spring health with the old e30..

and tires

[brewer]

scream louder if you want to go siiiiiiiiiidddddeeeeeeewwwwaaayyyyyyyysssss !!!!!!

[M3Jim]

Well I had a lotus elise come past me on the motorway today doing about 90 racing an rs4. As he went past i thought god he's brave as it was quite wet on the road.
Within 3 seconds of thinking that the back end twitched a couple of times and he was gone! Smashed into the barrier span round 4 times in a cloud of lotus bits, just missing me and two other cars and ended up on the hard shoulder!

If your not careful, lsd or no lsd your gonna get bitten!!!

I was quite spectacular and there wasn't much left, he was unhurt though. Lucky guy!!

Was that on the A23 at Warninglid? I read about that yesterday here.

Mine's got an open diff and I've only ever felt the back twitch when I've been a bit over enthusiastic with the throttle in the wet.

Yep thats the one! The police are looking for the audi driver, it's not his fault the guy in the lotus couldn't drive!

[E30Gheko]

No dif at all..

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[djk]

If you provoke any car hard enough to lose the rear end it requires at least some skill to regain control - its true of FWD cars too, to be frank. I'm sure most accidents resulting from these kinds of 'moments' result from the unfamiliar driver either over- or under-correcting with the steering or other controls. It seems some clowns think that an LSD is some sort of 'magic drifting device' whose fitment will turn them into a driving god with no further thought or experience required. They are wrong. I'm no driving hero by any stretch, but you need to have some idea of the limitations of your own experience to prevent yourself getting into trouble.

[Barx325i]

the only magic drifting device is between the ears

[djk]

No dif at all..

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Epic. I used to have an A2 poster on my bedroom wall as a kiddy of Mick Doohan smoking the rear tyre of an NSR500, knee on the deck. Proper stuff.

[E30Gheko]

OT - apologies but...

Mick Doohan was a total god. After his appalling crash at Assen he was back racing before he could even walk on his seriously smashed up leg using a modified rear brake on the handlebars. (he couldn't use his foot) iirc he kept it that way after his leg healed cos he found he prefered it. Respect..

[maxlee]

maybe he should have adopted a donkey that could hae made all the difrance like having a lsd would have

[djk]

OT - apologies but...

Mick Doohan was a total god. After his appalling crash at Assen he was back racing before he could even walk on his seriously smashed up leg using a modified rear brake on the handlebars. (he couldn't use his foot) iirc he kept it that way after his leg healed cos he found he prefered it. Respect..

Had his legs sewed together after that accident to retain blood flow to his foot - double hard bastard. Think he kept the thumb operated rear brake because he never regained the ability to push his right toe down in the conventional way. I remember all his rivals around 95/6/7 trying the thumb brake because they thought it gave him an advantage - nope, he was just much, much, better than them, even on one leg! Hero.

Back on topic now, I promise...

[E30Gheko]

Had his legs sewed together after that accident to retain blood flow to his foot - double hard bastard.

Oh yeah, I remember seeing a picture of that now... fookin hard coonts GP riders. Shwantz won the British GP with a broken wrist around that time too.

[Cook318IS]

stumbled across this and it made me think of this thread

[Barx325i]

I remember my first kickback