Cliffys BTB3, 6 Branch Manifold, Now fitted page 3

[cliffybabe]

Thanks to the group buy and the excellent work of BTB/ Joe, my BTB 3 6 branch and cross pipe arrived today.

Now my BTB manifold has had the Cliffy touch I blame Joe for this as he contacted me and said about having the primary’s polished as it would tie in with my engine bay and im well pleased I went with.

This is a piece of art


















I cant wait to get this on, it will hopefully go on next Saturday as im off to pick up my jet ski tomorrow morning

Thanks
Neil

[ImysE30]

It would have been wrong not to

Looks amazing, work of art

[daimlerman]

Be keeping it like that you will find hardest!

[E30BeemerLad]

sure that's not a Hottuning one?

[cliffybabe]

Cheers guys

It will stay shiny of that im sure

If it was a Hottunning one i'd be weighing it in

Cant weight to fit it

[gareth]

now watch it go brown / blue....

[Simon]

sure that's not a Hottuning one?

Looks identical to me!

[cliffybabe]

sure that's not a Hottuning one?

Looks identical to me!

[Rodderz]

There's no denying that the Hottuning one looks great!

[B7]

Stop f*cking taking photos and bolt the b4stard on!!!

[The_Diddler]

Stop f*cking taking photos and bolt the b4stard on!!!

Well said

[cliffybabe]

Stop f*cking taking photos and bolt the b4stard on!!!

Well said

I havent even got the car at mine at the min, its in my mates garage because ive been repainting mine

it will be coming home tomorrow and ill be bolting it on Sat next weekend

[gareth]

please tell me you've got the garage door chromed

[Chris]

Looks gorgeous. Question is, will you have to take it off every week to keep it that shiny


Picking up a Jet Ski? in October. Good time for bargains but i hope you've got a dry suit, and long johns

Chris

[dimebag_from_hell]

Im curious, how much did you guys get the manifolds for in the group buy?

Let me know if you notice much of a difference and if she sounds much better?


thanks

[bss325i]

Im curious, how much did you guys get the manifolds for in the group buy?

Let me know if you notice much of a difference and if she sounds much better?


thanks

15bhp and 20lbft difference on my sport!

[Nick91]

How does it sound with one of these babies on ?

[bss325i]

How does it sound with one of these babies on ?

It depends on what centre and rear you have on the rest of the system.

[Helmet]

btb's sound shit

[bss325i]

btb's sound shit

Thats your opinion which is rubbish!

[cliffybabe]

btb's sound shit

Helmet, ur name says it all

[kieran325]

How does it sound with one of these babies on ?

I've got the full BTB system and it sounds fantastic, a subtle growl

[Cloggy Saint]

btb's sound shit

Thats your opinion which is rubbish!

Haha, classic! I think you mean his opinion is rubbish in your opinion.

[/// KAMI]

looks nice and shiny like your car.....im sure it will sound good.....

[djk]

Holy grail stuff - very, veeeeeery nice. You putting a quick rack in then?

[bss325i]

btb's sound shit

Thats your opinion which is rubbish!

Haha, classic! I think you mean his opinion is rubbish in your opinion.

Nope its not my opinion, its FACT!

[spook]

Dare i say it.....

Thats big money spent for a small gain in horsepower.

The hottuning one shines up better anyway.

[cliffybabe]

Dare i say it.....

Thats big money spent for a small gain in horsepower.

The hottuning one shines up better anyway.

looks the dogs though

[bss325i]

Dare i say it.....

Thats big money spent for a small gain in horsepower.

The hottuning one shines up better anyway.

I would say the gains are excelent when you consider a 2.7 gives little more but cost ALOT more!

[hongkongfuey]

actually done properly a 2.7 should make 230 +, if do a cheap one would make 180-190with craploads of torque for less than a stainless btb, also those who put on a 6branch regardless of make would put on a stainless system, upping the cost to about 1-1.5k depending on system.

The hottuning debate has done the rounds as have the is, 325 sport over 325ise, if you have crap loads of cash good for you, others who dont want to spend 1000's on their cars, but want a hottuning so be it , and if people don't like them so what. They are a copy of the btb and a 1/4 of the price, and i got one from a recomendation from someone on the zone, and i doubt many know more about e30's here on the zone, and before it's said i know the quality isn't the same but its not worth 4 times the amount

[djk]

Thorny subject I know, but can't we all accept that 'you pays yer money and takes yer choice'? A BTB manifold is quite clearly the 'ultimate' in terms of these components and comes with considerable cost as a result. The Hottuning item is a cheaper product, and dependent on your own priorities as a consumer and your choice of budget for such an item, may or may not represent better value for each individual. It seems there is, rightly or wrongly, an antipathy between satisfied customers of both items due perhaps to the terms used in previous debates on the subject, but can it not be accapted tha there are as many opinions as there are sets of circumstances?

As I understand it, the 'BTB3' is the only 6 branch manifold available that can be used in conjuction with a RHD z3/e36 quick rack so, whatever the cost implication, there is no alternative anyway for those requiring both.

[Barx325i]

good honest R&D comes at a price.

to support that, BTB do reduce their prices in line with mk, volume sales, and unit production cost.

Expensive, but..... you get exactly what you pay for in this instance

[bss325i]

actually done properly a 2.7 should make 230 +, if do a cheap one would make 180-190with craploads of torque for less than a stainless btb, also those who put on a 6branch regardless of make would put on a stainless system, upping the cost to about 1-1.5k depending on system.

The hottuning debate has done the rounds as have the is, 325 sport over 325ise, if you have crap loads of cash good for you, others who dont want to spend 1000's on their cars, but want a hottuning so be it , and if people don't like them so what. They are a copy of the btb and a 1/4 of the price, and i got one from a recomendation from someone on the zone, and i doubt many know more about e30's here on the zone, and before it's said i know the quality isn't the same but its not worth 4 times the amount

The most powerfull 2.7's on the zone ie the ones circa 230bhp cost alot more than the £650 a BTB2 costs and even a cheapo home build 2.7 costs alot more than £650! To build one PROPERLY without reusing old shells, pumps, rings etc would cost the thick end of £1500.

Its also widely regarded that stainless exhausts give little or no gains over a standard genuine BMW exhaust and as you can use a standard 3 peice BMW exhaust with the BTB2 there is no need to spend the extra £400 or so on a stainless exhaust.

Fact of the matter is that the BTB2 give the best gains on its own for a bolt on item. A chip will give 5-10bhp and similar torque, a cam on its own not alot as it needs a chip/remap to work and a stainless exhaust 2-3bhp if anything at all.

Remember, 15bhp and 20lbft from the BTB2.

I've said all i need to in the past about the HT manifold.

[e30topless]

btb's sound great
I would no doubt buy one, if I wasn't using this rusty old scrap


as for HT fannymolds, a freind has one on his 325i along with a scorpion system and it sounds amazing ! got no idea if it add's any ponies though ..

[sweep]

I think a btb will be on my list very shortly too.