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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:36 pm

looking for an e30 for sub 350 to drift so prob a tired 320i or 318i not looking at spending too much as am a novice drifter and on the track i guess iot will have its fair share of battle marks etc. am i wasting my time or will they still drift and allow me to learn if in the condition discribed?
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:45 pm

Should work fine, you might have to learn to drop the clutch. The engines seem to last long enough.

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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:47 pm

weld the diff and youll be drifting like a pro.
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:49 pm

buy a bheap damaged one, repair it on the cheap and sell all the unessary parts and weld the diff, youll almost end up with a free car after a little work!
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:14 pm

cool so even if the suspension is tired and bushes etc it will be ok? dont want to spend alot as i just want to learn and see how it goes and then in the future maybe get a better car and m50 it. is there anyone on here that does diff welding? or is easy for a welder to do?
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:23 pm

Welding a diff is a piece of piss to do. Just have to make sure you don't cook the bearings with too much heat is all.


Friend of mine has a pretty battered 318i with manual steering. Only good thing about it is the engine isn't completely fooked at 70K on the clock.

Some extra lock and a welded diff and we have it drifting in 2nd and sometimes 3rd gear and fish-tailing the straights :mad:

It's good to learn in a reasonably low powered car too as you really have to work on weight shifting and handbrake use and all the little tricks to keep the drift going rather than just throwing a 250bhp Nissan into a corner and just leaving it there until your finished the corner.
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Sun Oct 04, 2009 11:22 pm

i have a 318i cabby , i figure its heavier and slower than a regular 318i, and i have the back sliding out whenever possible. a good clutch kick and flick of the steering gets it goin as sideways as you want, span it a few times and creamed the tyres up before too haha
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this time of year especially is sideways central
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a decent 325i touring recently sold on here in the cars 4 sale £420 ish
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diff welding is easy, i got mine done by a machining company, cost about £40 though, removed it from the casing so he could get better acess,

good clutch is a must, the one on my cabby is now very tired, and wont light the wheels at all, a mate of mine got a stage 3 clutch for his mx5 and now it is almost impossible to pull away without wheelspinning!
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:34 am

ali-vert wrote:i have a 318i cabby , i figure its heavier and slower than a regular 318i, and i have the back sliding out whenever possible. a good clutch kick and flick of the steering gets it goin as sideways as you want, span it a few times and creamed the tyres up before too haha

Now, now - thats no way to treat a 318i cabby! :burn: :burn:
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I've just bought this.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWNX:IT

it has westlake tyres on the back and in anything other than dry conditions I can't get any traction :cool:

Maybe a bit too dangerous for our roads to be honest but drifts like a good 'un when it's damp.

I was doing about 50 on a dual carrigeway in 3rd, a bit of throttle and the rears lit up instantly! :mad:
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:31 pm

Look for a cheap 325i. Or try a dirt cheap 320i moredoor etc and lump a 325i motor in, replacing the clutch and welding the diff at the same time.

TBH, with a welded diff, a 318i should be more than up for the challenge!
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:57 pm

my old 318i skidded like a gooden...............in the wet, and that was with an open diff. i'm sure if you go balls deep it'll skid in the dry. just weld it to make it easier.
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:52 pm

anything with an open diff in the rain will break traction

i cant imagine what a 325i was like with an open diff and 195 /65/14 bottle tyres !!
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:06 pm

These cars are ideal to learn in as there very well balanced , short wheel based and cheap, trouble is they have a slow rack so be prepared to steer with one hand!
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Kos wrote:anything with an open diff in the rain will break traction

i cant imagine what a 325i was like with an open diff and 195 /65/14 bottle tyres !!
Quite scary!
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:29 pm

How long is a piece of string, tied to another piece of string, knotted with another.. :roll:
Got cable ties? Get diffin..

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Jhonno wrote:How long is a piece of string, tied to another piece of string, knotted with another.. :roll:
4 feet.
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Jhonno wrote:How long is a piece of string, tied to another piece of string, knotted with another.. :roll:
long :D
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:43 pm

Exactly.. Taking the average of the above answers tells you how well any random tired e30 will drift innit..
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:58 pm

I forward that comment and agree totally that an old (slightly battered) 318i will drift.

Ive had mine on full lock round some tightys in the dry with an open diff. Ask Maxfield :mad:
Just have to be carefull as like its been said lock to lock is ermm

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Get an E36 rack

Also there quite snappy with an open diff! Can be scary
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Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:24 pm

grantfk10 wrote:

Now, now - thats no way to treat a 318i cabby! :burn: :burn:
if i could afford to get another e30 and run it on the side to play with i would! but for now i will abuse my cab!
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If you look on trampdrifts website they will show you what you can do with a banger on the cheap :cool:
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Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:42 am

Agreed, if you were to spend any money on an E30 for dirfting, it would be an E36 rack.


diff welding and throwing stuff you don't need is free :D

Even sorting the bushes by making up solid ones can be free if it's just going to be a tramp until you build a properly sorted E30 driftcar when you have learned the basics
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Dave_M3 wrote:Agreed, if you were to spend any money on an E30 for dirfting, it would be an E36 rack.


diff welding and throwing stuff you don't need is free :D

Even sorting the bushes by making up solid ones can be free if it's just going to be a tramp until you build a properly sorted E30 driftcar when you have learned the basics
You'll definately need the E36 steering rack, that standard one is just far too slow for any quick steering input.

Even this can be done for free though, I was given an E36 rack and I didn't need to buy any parts to fit it.

Get some stiff-as-fu*k Faulkner springs for the back as well for £40 and you'll be away.
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500 wrote:I've just bought this.. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... K:MEWNX:IT

it has westlake tyres on the back and in anything other than dry conditions I can't get any traction :cool:

Maybe a bit too dangerous for our roads to be honest but drifts like a good 'un when it's damp.

I was doing about 50 on a dual carrigeway in 3rd, a bit of throttle and the rears lit up instantly! :mad:
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Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:08 am

autos also drift as i found out today!!




was a 5.3 v12 jag mind but felt sedate compared to the e30

perfect weather isintit(init)
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