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Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:21 pm

Well, it's finally all sorted and booked in to see if all the hard work and "testicular discomfort" has been worth it. The last time the car went on the rollers it won a prize, the "Wooden Spoon Award" for lowest reading of the day, it's even in last months Total BMW :o:


I've been doing last minuite checks today...
Gear box oil looks new and is upto level
Diff oil and bush changed, leaky output seal on the to-do list
Engine oil topped up
Tappets checked and adjusted as required (only 2 needed adjustment)
Coolant topped up (sensor keeps working loose, also on the to-do list)
Plugs checked for correct gap and general condition, all ok.

Have I missed anything?

I'm actually a bit nervous, I have a figure in mind that I want it to better (190 bhp/tq) but we will see.
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:40 pm

Fingers crossed mate. What's the spec?
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:48 pm

B25 low comp pistons, block and head both skimmed (minimal on the head, 0.5mm on the block to retain standard squish) approx 9.7:1 CR
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:50 pm

Nice will be interested in the result 190 can't be out of the question here. :cool:
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:16 pm

off topic a bit what was the cost of ur cam?

Also have u checked ur tyre pressures??
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:17 pm

how much £££'s have you spent in total on the engine?
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:22 pm

The cam came to about £300 iirc from A-tech and i dare not tot it all up, it must be nearly 2K and then theres all the "while i'm at it" stuff.

It took 2 B25 engines to get a decent set of parts but at least that means i've got a spare head.... the next thing im buying for it is a BTB 3 manifold, but only after the bank account has recovered 8O


Tyre pressures will be checked at work tomorrow :D
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:23 pm

£2000+ and your hoping for 190? :eek:
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Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:36 pm

Well i hoped for 120 last time and got 96, that inspired me to get a bigger engine built, im being realistic because shes on a tame-ish cam and will still be pretty tight. I'm also not sure that the cam timing is optimal, the vernier has no graduations at all and was a C**t to get to a standard position.


The RR have a good reputation and specialise in TVR/Lotus so im hopeing the results will be accurate.


Also i think it could have either been done cheaper or better by a different machine shop, they really took the piss then im convinced they over charged me... the job could have been thrown together much cheaper but i got carried away replaceing things and bought good brand name gaskets (Payen) rather than cheapo's.
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:29 am

stonesie wrote:B25 low comp pistons, block and head both skimmed (minimal on the head, 0.5mm on the block to retain standard squish) approx 9.7:1 CR
Can't see the logic here, if you wanted to retain the same squish, then removing metal from the two faces ain't the way to do it. Unless your using a thicker head gasket?
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:56 am

The reason is that the 320 rods are 5mm shorter than the 325 ones but the crank gives 9mm longer stroke, (4.5mm each way) meaning that the pistons are 0.5mm lower in the block at TDC, so to retain the squish 0.5mm was removed from the block top and a minimal skim on the head to get it flat as can be.... Simples. :D
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:12 pm

I'm sure I'm not the only person here waiting for Stonesie to get back with the result. :)
This is why I no longer drive an E30......

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Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:31 pm

Well im back, and I have the result's :cool:


Remember folks, these are wheel figures not flywheel. I rang Ant and badgered him for some calculations for those winkeye


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Ant's figures came back as 206 bhp and 203Lb:Ft :burn: :burn: :woohoo:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:35 pm

It compares quite well to the old 2.0 donk

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Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:48 pm

Nice! Must be fun to drive :cool:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 6:54 pm

Nice and grunty that I reckon. Nice effort mate bet your chuft wiTh that. :cool:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:36 pm

It's a lot of fun, the 320 I badge on the back just adds to the corsa-boy's confusion :twisted:


It sounds good too, I'm going to try to upload the video from my phone.
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:07 pm

thats pukka result for a DIY built M20, nice one
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:10 pm

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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:25 pm

So, can I have a cabby in yours now please? :)
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:32 pm

See you at squires? :wink:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:42 pm

So how many miles have you got on the engine now??
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:47 pm

well done stonesie :cool:
personnaly i think thats a superb result and a achievement well worth the money imo
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:53 pm

StuBeeDoo wrote:So how many miles have you got on the engine now??
She ticked over 1500 while it was being given a workout on the rollers 8)

There IS more to come from this lump :cool:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:55 pm

I'm driving to cornwall for a wedding this Friday :(
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:03 pm

stonesie wrote:
StuBeeDoo wrote:So how many miles have you got on the engine now??
She ticked over 1500 while it was being given a workout on the rollers 8)

There IS more to come from this lump :cool:
I don't think I'd have wanted to run an engine with that few miles on a RR.
You're very brave.
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:06 pm

Nice one. Well done!

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Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:43 pm

That means that at the next RR session, mine should get the wooden spoon. :teehee:
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Mon Sep 21, 2009 11:55 pm

StuBeeDoo wrote:
stonesie wrote:
StuBeeDoo wrote:So how many miles have you got on the engine now??
She ticked over 1500 while it was being given a workout on the rollers 8)

There IS more to come from this lump :cool:
I don't think I'd have wanted to run an engine with that few miles on a RR.
You're very brave.
1500 miles is fine..

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Good going fella!
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:20 am

Great result. Lovely flat torque curve where it matters too winkeye
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Spot on dude! :D :D :D
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:41 am

fuzzy wrote:£2000+ and your hoping for 190? :eek:
thats pure madness lol.

2 grand would have got you a std a cossie lump in there with a couple of small tweaks you would have 300bhp easily.
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Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:04 pm

well done ...look forward to seeing it on friday :D
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