update

[Ant]

Good effort Alex !

I have found a way to squeeze mine into the space in front of the rad, leaves a nice short charge pipe run to help with response too.

Will take some pix next time i'm there if you like

some font inner valnce mods are required but it does maintain a stock outwards appearance, which is nice

Len, keep meaning to ask.... what kinda intake temps are you seeing dude ?

[lentec]

Ant ive still got to wire in the clock,temp thingy so i can see the temps in realtime but on phase1 it was going over the max of 55deg (that the clock can see) going to fit the pipes for water in a bit so will do the temp sensor then and let you know.

[Turbo-Brown]

Certainly be interested to see what you've done Ant, mine does look a bit messy, but if you stand back, the 'coolers aren't really noticable at all

Len, what sort of boost were you running when you got the 55deg?

[Turbo-Brown]

Blimey! That was expensive!

Just spent just under Ԛ£300 on silicone hoses for the pressurised air plumbing!

Oh well, one step closer I guess

[Jon_Bmw]

Here's a few pics a day late i'm afraid, my rather basic setup, but i'm having fun so thats good!



My sparklingly clean sump, don't worry its not dropping oil that was from an experiment:



The rather complicated exhaust downpipe route:



Closer up view of the turbo, wastegate actuator, mounting bracket etc.





I made a makeshift boost gauge out of a footpump and a whole 10 psi was coming on at about 2400rpm! with hardly any throttle, this is obviously not sustainable so i'm going to adjust the wastegate actuator in a min and see what happens then.

Come on then alex get some pictures up then i wanna see where you put two 'coolers!

Edit:sorry 56kers

[glenn]

excellent pics there jon,
making good progress!!

[Jon_Bmw]

Took it out for a spin after adjusting the wastegate, and now getting a constant 5 psi from 2300rpm up to 4500rpm which is where i stopped accelerating. I was well chuffed with the performance and it has stopped pinking.

I think some more runs, then try and find the chap who offered me a free intercooler.

oh yeah and a dump valve, just for the whoooosh chirp! and extended turbo life can't be bad either!

I'm already addicted to boost, and i've only played with it for 5 mins.

Jon

[glenn]

Took it out for a spin after adjusting the wastegate, and now getting a constant 5 psi from 2300rpm up to 4500rpm which is where i stopped accelerating. I was well chuffed with the performance and it has stopped pinking.

I think some more runs, then try and find the chap who offered me a free intercooler.

oh yeah and a dump valve, just for the whoooosh chirp! and extended turbo life can't be bad either!

I'm already addicted to boost, and i've only played with it for 5 mins.

Jon

well pleased your enjoying something you've built yourself,
happy motoring

[lentec]

good work jon
I like the creative use of "other car" oem parts
See you are still using the small afm ive got a few sugestions if your interested

[Jon_Bmw]

good work jon
I like the creative use of "other car" oem parts
See you are still using the small afm ive got a few sugestions if your interested

Oh yes that breather shall we say came froma vauxhall ecotec, known for there clogging ability! I used to work for a vaux parts place so any part is cost price to me, so i try and use what i can!

Any suggestions will be willingly taken on board, i can think of a fair few myself
1) M30 AFM, with m20 internals
2)the pipe which goes between the AFM and turbo could be LOADS better!
3)An intercooler

Thats just for a start, i'm sure there are loads more.

Jon

[Turbo-Brown]

Looking good Jon!

Is that the early or later engine?

EDIT> sorry for the lack of pics. Borrowed my mates digital camera and was gonna upload them on Sunday, but didn't get a chance.

Instead, I spent the whole of Sunday making up yet more brackets (well one) for the alarm. Tis mostly installed though so that's another major job crossed off the list

[Ant]

I like it Jon

I can see the FMU in that pic, what injetcors are you using dude ?

I am a few days away from the first boosted run on mine, should get the final IC maounts installed tonight and then its charge pipe time, I only have a short run to plumb so time allowing , I should be running midweek again.

Many small jobs left to do but I'm loosing my lift to work as of friday and I need my car back on the road regardless

[Jon_Bmw]

Alex: I believe its the late engine, its a facelift car built in '88 at some point, how exactly do you tell, engine no's??

Ant: 535 yellow injectors, afm spring tightened 3 notches, and a vortech 12:1 ratio FMU. Its working quite well, not too lumpy anymore at idle, and with it set at about 5 psi no pinking/clattering/detonating at any rev range.

I took it to 6300rpm roughly yesterday and it was fine, it got to 80 mph bloody quick, with an auto you don't get the impression you are going that fast as the gearchanges are smooth and instant, its only when you look at the clock you realise.

There is a slight hi-cup when reving from idle, but it always had this, before turboing'. It's down to the TPS i'm sure as you can open the butterfly very slightly before you can hear the TPS click, whereas it should be as soon as it moves, does anyone know how to recify this? Can i tighten the accelerator cable so that its on the point of the TPS clicking and will the idle control valve bring the idle back down?

[Karan]

u can rotate the tps so the click comes on differently

[lentec]

Any suggestions will be willingly taken on board, i can think of a fair few myself
1) M30 AFM, with m20 internals
2)the pipe which goes between the AFM and turbo could be LOADS better!
3)An intercooler

Thats just for a start, i'm sure there are loads more.

Jon

instead of the m30 afm how about lucas unit from a jag xj6 the internals fit
from the m20 and its nearly twice the size!
all i did was wrap a lengh of weld wire on the spring arm and hung bolts on it
until it started to open then un hooked the wire and hooked it on to the jag
unit and adjusted the spring tension until it opened the same as the
standard one!
might not be the best way of setting it up worked for me tho!

[Jon_Bmw]

Thanks karen i might go try that in a min.

Lentec i'll keep my ears open for an xj6 AFM then, if ones cheap enough it might be a good experiment, definatly worth looking into thats for sure.

Jon

[lentec]

Thanks karen i might go try that in a min.

Lentec i'll keep my ears open for an xj6 AFM then, if ones cheap enough it might be a good experiment, definatly worth looking into thats for sure.

Jon

No experiment mate i had this setup running on my phase1 s/c m20 for at least 5k miles!

[Ant]

Little update from me.

Did a couple of hours on the car tonight, modded the inner front valance to clear the IC pipework, made a couple of brackets to hold the IC in place, I also finally fitted the last MSnS sensor so all is lookin good.

Charge pipes to finish now, I have made a start but got a bit punchy tonight( loooong day) so I've walked away for now.

more tomorrow , might actually get something finished soon

[lentec]

Just updated my site http://lentec-e30.tripod.com/
with pics of my water injection setup!
still have to test it but its now fitted!

[Jon_Bmw]

Just won this on an ebay action, all i wanted was the blitz boost gauge but got all the other stuff aswell, as long as the bloke dosn't ignore phonecalls considering the cheap price
I'm not liking his negative feedback, will have to ring him later see whats what. Heres the link:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... 4567415838

[e30_Turbo]

Jon,

I like the way he described the IC and a radiator Looks big enough although the anlges of the in/out may be a pita .

Dump valve and some piping could be of use, I've already noticed you have been making other oem parts fit, good plan

Jon, Where are you based mate?
(I'm in Halifax all week, would love to pop over and say hi!)

[Jon_Bmw]

Jon,

I like the way he described the IC and a radiator Looks big enough although the anlges of the in/out may be a pita .

Dump valve and some piping could be of use, I've already noticed you have been making other oem parts fit, good plan

Jon, Where are you based mate?
(I'm in Halifax all week, would love to pop over and say hi!)

Well the bloke is a fcuking mupet, no wonder he described the IC as a radiator as he was... well like speaking to a usual norwich union employee! Indian or of that nature. Told me that it was "sold" already, so i asked him why he hadn' taken the advert down, and he replyed because it was a 1 day auction he couldn't!

All complete bollocks, and get this, this is the best bet-he said what are you going to do about feedback? i replyed well i can't exactly say anything positive can i. He then said he'd leave whatever feedback i left, if bad he would leave bad. I hate ebay some times, people take the piss on it, all he had to do was put a fudging reserve on it!

I'm all the way dowwn south Mark in sunny salisbury(near southampton) if closer i would have happily shown you about the car and offered you a nice cold .

Until today i would have even taken you for a spin in it...

Guess what happened... well i phoned and old work collegue up to get some time on an emmision machine to see how far away from MOT standard i am. So i'm scheduled to be up there for 1 today, so i start her up at 12.15 plenty of time, its running lumpy so i thought get her on the road and she'll smooth out.....WRONG

Got 200 yards down the road no acceleration, the plugs have fouled i think, so i've managed to coast onto a side street and left her till the old man gets back to help tow or push it back! Now i've got to basically strip everthing down to get the plugs out, and then go a few degrees warmer or back to standard!

Is there anything to bare in mind when towing an auto? I've heard you are not suppsed to do it.

So a bit of a shit day all in all, things can only get better!

Jon

[Karan]

u could remove the prop by the side of the road just to be safe

[Ant]

200 yards wil be Ok, just tow @ walking pace and all will be well.

no accel could point to a TPS related issue dude, or a pipe popped off, my nissan did both quite regularly

[buster]

looking good guys,i was quite excited when i was getting all the parts together,i wish i could have done the turbo conversion but the m3 evo engine + box etc came along at a price i couldn't refuse.Still got all the turbo gear,maybe once the sport is done i could try on another 325,who knows.
keep up the good work guys,its a good read and will be well worth it in the end.
good luck

[Jon_Bmw]

200 yards wil be Ok, just tow @ walking pace and all will be well.

no accel could point to a TPS related issue dude, or a pipe popped off, my nissan did both quite regularly

Yeah i towed it at walking pace, i did play with the tps the other day but didn't change it, but i think it isn't only because after playing with it i forgot to plug the tps back on, it was roughbut still did work. I might investigate it though tomorrow.

The 2 plugs that i could remove were very black, i'm gonna try the standard injectors tomorrow but i think they'll pink to be honest and see if it will start. Then its take off the whole turbo assy off to change the plugs back to standard and re-gap them closer.

Oh well it was going too well so it had to have a hi-cup at some point.

[Jon_Bmw]

Deano 325 turbo, were you running or currently running standard injectors or have i got the wrong end of the stick?

[Turbo-Brown]

FINALLY!

Got my mate to host the IC pictures so here we go:

Central bracket:



Near side bracket:



Offside bracket:



Some other random piccy:



And both <cough> inconspicuously mounted IC's

[Karan]

FINALLY!

Got my mate to host the IC pictures so here we go:

Central bracket:



Near side bracket:



Offside bracket:



Some other random piccy:



And both <cough> inconspicuously mounted IC's

are tey gonna get good airflow at that angle

[e30_Turbo]

Deano 325 turbo, were you running or currently running standard injectors or have i got the wrong end of the stick?

I had a go in Dean's turbo last night......and......

WOW, that certainly goes some, we only really went full throttle up hills, but damn did it pull, very fast, good fun too and Dean and Stephen were top blokes, had a bloody good night, three pints of stellar and I was as pissed as a pissed man at a pissedman competition!!

Big thanks to Dean for taking me out and he's pretty handy at bodywork too, (blatant plug )

Jon, from what he told me last night he's running stock injectors and a raised fuel pressure.

[Turbo-Brown]

FINALLY!

Got my mate to host the IC pictures so here we go:

Central bracket:



Near side bracket:



Offside bracket:



Some other random piccy:



And both <cough> inconspicuously mounted IC's

are tey gonna get good airflow at that angle

Aah yes, forgot to mention that I need to make some scoops up to duct air and stones into the cores

[lentec]

alex im asuming your going to fit some kind of scoops for them coolers?

[Turbo-Brown]

just beat ya to it

Yeah, I gather that the scooping can be about 1/3 the core area and still be effective. There's plenty of room for the scoops and I reckon if I make them out of thin glass fibre or something fairly springy they should resist speed humps pretty well

[Toby_Unna]

i might be wrong...

but coolers mounted side-on might work fine anyway (maybe fast moving air parallel to the cooler drags air through it due to being at low pressure?)

anyway honda sp1 bikes have a water rad mounted front-back each side of the engine rather than one at the front facing the airstream and that seems to work ok.

[lentec]

I personaly would would bend some stainless steel at the ends and cut them at whatever angle is needed/wanted then just atach them to the coores!
But then i do have a thing about stainless steel