WHATS a e30 sport with a e36 2.8 engine worth

[rado-steve]

Other than the suspension/trim/kit/wheels/LSD/box you mean?

I think luckily most of the community has taste, and those that dont, lack the money to create such monstrosities

Monstrosities??? Same as any car mate, Bet they're are some minging E30's on here just as they're are some minging Dubs on e38/section-5/dubforce etc

Seems to be more E36 owners that create cars that look like thy've driven through Autoworld and all the stick on crap has stuck!

But each to they're own, thats what makes a great online community, not slagging off somebodies pride and joy just because you don't agree with how it's styled

Room for everyone mate!

[fuzzy]

if you look through the pages of this place youll find all sorts . from the standard concours cars, the special editions, the mildly modified to the highly modified and serious performance cars with all sorts of engine conversions.
there is all sorts here so its certainly not a stuck in their ways sort of place to be.

[rado-steve]

i dont think theres many here that would say no mods at all but although im one of the biggest knockers of sports, when your paying a couple of grand over and above the price of a 325 you dont want to be devaluing them in and real way by modifying them.
im sure the vw scene also has a section of members who prefer all things standard, its no different here than anywhere else.

Yes mate you're right..they're are owners of totally std cars that won't entertain any mods....thats cool, Everybody needs these guys as they preserve them for future generations, I admire anyone that can keep a car in boggo std condition, but just because somebody chooses to mod one doesn't automatically make them into some kind of of leper!

[fuzzy]

it would be a strange course to take to waste the extra few thousand buying a sport to then rip apart and modify and devalue rather than just buying a 325i to start with. the 2-3+ thousand you will have saved buying the 325i could then be spent modifying even more.
the 'kudos' that comes with the sport tag wont amount to much if youve then b4st4rdised it by adding non standard parts.
a well speced 325 will have all the bits you want it to have to start with on your project.

[bss325i]

Bit like corrado's and the "Storm" version! Nowt special, just a corrado with a couple of badges and some different Alloy wheels and Leather! People still pay £2K over what it would be for a good VR6 with leather etc......

I like the look of the sport, but if they'd put a decent engine in it for it to be properly classed as a sport or some other tweeks etc then I may think different, Sorry I'm not being a sheep and following everyone...I thought thats what make a good online community????

I love the look of E30's but I just can't see why the BM community seems to be quite stuck in its ways with regards to modding etc..... A BMW with a set of bently rims fitted or some lambo wheels etc, Euro look etc..Ok well I've seen 2 on here and they rock!

Now I'm not slating anyone who likes std cars, as I'm a sucker for a mint original MK1 golf GTi etc but being different and having different views is what I love about the whole secene!

Keep the Bently rims and slamed stances for the Dub scene, it doesnt work as well on E30's just becasue they are from the same country and generation as mk1 and 2 golfs doesn't mean the same things will work.

Sorry mate, Beg to differ, Why do some of you BM guys have such a blinkered attitude to modding??? I'm not knocking anyones car here don't get me wrong, Your car looks sweet, and I'd love to see some more pics of it, My corrado is very much OEM+ with some subtle tweeks, nice wheels and a cracking engine, Just getting one of the sweetest handling FWD cars ever built better, but just because you think that an E30 is "the Ultimate driving machine" that you shouldn't mess with them is rubbish! E30's rock when they are lowered and have some stance..for example:



Now don't tell me that those don't look good! Awesome cars set off by cracking wheels and great stance! Maybe it's because I've had so much experience of dubs and the whole dub scene that I think the way i do!

Not trying to start arguments, just some decent forum discussion and banter, seeing an E30 from without the Blue Propeller tinted glasses that a few peeps on here seem to view them through!

I have not once said keep all BMW's standard and dont mod them! The point i'm trying to make is that if you molest a sport it will devalue it. Simple.

I am not adverse to modified E30's at all. Fact of the matter is i just sold a highly modified E30 which had an S50B30 engine, suspension and brake mods.

It was based on 2dr 318i Lux as these are worth very little and are a great blank canvass to work from.

[bss325i]

Oh and "slammed E30's" may look good but they do NOT handle properly!

[E30BeemerLad]

I agree the E30 scene is a bit blinkered as to mods, not engine mods and the car you sold to Chris was a perfect sleeper Barry, it just looks like a 2dr E30 with some Hartge rims to look at.

I sit in a half way house between OEM+ and the VW scene

[Dave_M3]

FACT! The 325i Sports that are worth the most are the unmolested ones!

What I would call molesting is lots or shitty bodykits and gash styling with spoilers and all that which can't really be put back to standard because of holes and filler everywhere to fit whatever was put on...


Swapping an engine, wheels, suspension etc is fine in my oppinion as everything can be put back to standard if whoever does want to sell it eventually if standard ones are making a killing by keeping the original bits stored away.

Would even be a better car then as it would be basically after a rebuild when being put back to standard

Suspension and wheels maybe but engine swaps no.

As i said, its a FACT that the more original the sport is the more it is worth!

Well, it's the persons choice at the end of the day...

If I had a Sport, I would want more power as the b25 isn't worth the running costs for what it is so would probably build an M20b28 for it to keep it at least looking orginial and then put in some Bilsteins and decent brake pads and would be more or less done and the add on every factory option availible that it didn't come with such as cruise-control, heated seats, air-con and all that kinda stuff

I even don't like putting different engines into 318iS for fook sake but modify them away and as you say let the 316 and 318i be bast@rdised




Those two white ones in the pic at the petrol station are probably the best looking E30s in the US imo

[bss325i]

[quote="Dave_M3If I had a Sport, I would want more power as the b25 isn't worth the running costs for what it is so would probably build an M20b28 for it to keep it at least looking orginial and then put in some Bilsteins and decent brake pads and would be more or less done and the add on every factory option availible that it didn't come with such as cruise-control, heated seats, air-con and all that kinda stuff [/quote]

That is basicly what i've been doing with mine. Mine was a basic sport (cloth, no RHR, no OBC, no blind etc etc) but i have slowly been speccing it up, adding leather, blind, cruise, 13 button OBC and i still have a heated seat kit and heated mirrors and washer jets to go in. A/C will be last. I have also added some genuine Alpina parts to. All these items were available when new so i feel do not detract from the value to much but that is beside the point as i will never sell which is also why i have put B8's, eibachs and H&R roll bars on it.

A sport must be kept M20 so as you say an M20B28 is ok. I'm tempted to mod mine further than just a BTB2 manifold but with only 55000 miles and in perfect fettle, it would be a shame to mess arround with it.

Besides, my M20 performs better than your average B25! Ask Simon13 and Oguz327!

[Jhonno]

it would be a strange course to take to waste the extra few thousand buying a sport to then rip apart and modify and devalue rather than just buying a 325i to start with. the 2-3+ thousand you will have saved buying the 325i could then be spent modifying even more.
the 'kudos' that comes with the sport tag wont amount to much if youve then b4st4rdised it by adding non standard parts.
a well speced 325 will have all the bits you want it to have to start with on your project.

Exactly!!

If you are going to bastardise something, why pay a premium to start with what will be a rotten Sport?! Then have to pay extra to sort the bodywork as well as your mods

[Bob_S]

All depends what you want from the car.. Most people in this topic are more into driving their chariots not crawling about looking rude and collecting the kids from school, er I mean girls of the night.. er ah whatever you want to call it.

I will happily enjoy a standard e30 as much as a highly modded one. What I wont enjoy is a back breaking ride with no suspension travel and uber fat wheels rubbing all over the arches and the exhaust grounding out and winceing because it's X00 pounds worth.