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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:19 am

How much is this 628 worth do you think? :? Thinking of getting one now before they get too expensive - or are they already on the way up? :cry:


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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:53 am

That car is worth 2K tops if it is really clean and the repairs have been done to a good standard.
628s are rare because no body wanted them and the same is true today.
The seller is full of sh1t and trying it on, the 14" Alpina type wheels he is bleating about are worth £100 . Don't bother, buy a 635.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:04 am

pacerpete wrote:That car is worth 2K tops if it is really clean and the repairs have been done to a good standard.
628s are rare because no body wanted them and the same is true today.
The seller is full of sh1t and trying it on, the 14" Alpina type wheels he is bleating about are worth £100 . Don't bother, buy a 635.

..would a similar condition 635 be more - say £3K? As I'm based in London where the average driving speed is about 18mph, outright grunt isn't that important :) Quite keen on poverty spec motors too...
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:19 am

pacerpete wrote:That car is worth 2K tops if it is really clean and the repairs have been done to a good standard.
628s are rare because no body wanted them and the same is true today.
The seller is full of sh1t and trying it on, the 14" Alpina type wheels he is bleating about are worth £100 . Don't bother, buy a 635.
could'nt say it better

hold out for a nice 635 you will prefer it mate
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:26 am

No, I disagree.

That's a pretty rare car. It's E12 based and most of them - i.e. 99.9% - have rusted into oblivion long ago. The poverty 628 wasn't *as* desireable - it was still an expensive, desireable car though.

It has low mileage and few owners. Some prefer the manual.

If it is genuinely rust free and has history to back up its miles/ownership, it's worth more than 2K.

Not that I'd buy it, but if I had it, I'd not be selling it for 2K.

Crap advert and the wheels are the right ones for the car - just not Alpinas.

A rust free 635 (if such a thing exists) with that mileage and owners would be advertised at anywhere up to 10K - that might be a cheap way of getting a very similar thing.

If you are looking for a nice 635 at around the 4K mark, PM me.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:31 pm

e24 values seem to be all over the place at the moment - seems the market can't make its mind up about them. If you like the car and it's not rotten, it could be easily £2-3k - but it will not appreciate at anything like the rate 635CSis have. As said, the stuff about the wheels and chrome is a load of guff - offputting too, what else is the seller being less than genuine about? A similar condition 635 would indeed be silly money. I guess you're a bit like where I was buying my first e30 - I wanted a minter, rather than the most desirable spec, so bought a brown 4dr 320i, and it is a pleasure to own.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:17 pm

djk wrote:e24 values seem to be all over the place at the moment - seems the market can't make its mind up about them. If you like the car and it's not rotten, it could be easily £2-3k - but it will not appreciate at anything like the rate 635CSis have. As said, the stuff about the wheels and chrome is a load of guff - offputting too, what else is the seller being less than genuine about? A similar condition 635 would indeed be silly money. I guess you're a bit like where I was buying my first e30 - I wanted a minter, rather than the most desirable spec, so bought a brown 4dr 320i, and it is a pleasure to own.

..I do need to free up a bit of space first (the garage in tenanted at the moment). It seems that they've gone well past the bottom value wise though. I'm guessing (a non M6, non 635csi E24) will always be a slightly specialist classic, appealing to BMW-ophiles.. Looking at ones available now, there's a 20,000 miler 635csi on classiccarsforsale on at £16,950 :mad:

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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:01 pm

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djk wrote:e24 values seem to be all over the place at the moment - seems the market can't make its mind up about them. If you like the car and it's not rotten, it could be easily £2-3k - but it will not appreciate at anything like the rate 635CSis have. As said, the stuff about the wheels and chrome is a load of guff - offputting too, what else is the seller being less than genuine about? A similar condition 635 would indeed be silly money. I guess you're a bit like where I was buying my first e30 - I wanted a minter, rather than the most desirable spec, so bought a brown 4dr 320i, and it is a pleasure to own.

..I do need to free up a bit of space first (the garage in tenanted at the moment). It seems that they've gone well past the bottom value wise though. I'm guessing (a non M6, non 635csi E24) will always be a slightly specialist classic, appealing to BMW-ophiles only - people who might also have a 2000C or a 700 on their wish lists? Looking at ones available now, there's a 20,000 miler on classiccarsforsale on at £16,950 :mad:

http://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/cla ... arno/47468
That's been for sale for ages. I would think they'll get north of 10 for it - I don't think the colour helps, and the miles are so low it'd be a bit of a shame to add to them substantially, so it's got a very limited audience - but they started at £19950 iirc. These sort of timewarp cars are so rare though that it's near impossible to value them - dealers tend to price them very high to start with and play the long game.

I'm put off e24s in general as so many are just about MoTable but frankly on borrowed time. The one you pointed out originally looks like a nice buy, particularly with the manual box, just the seller appears to be a bit of a middle man chancer.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:30 pm

djk wrote:e24 values seem to be all over the place at the moment - seems the market can't make its mind up about them.

Yes and no, I think that the fact is that E24s are all over the place at the moment. The cars and therefore their values are polarising. There are more being restored, but there is still an awful lot of frag feed out there. The middle cars are either being improved or scrapped and it will get to the stage that there are fewer cars, but they are generally better. Prices will then stabilise to a standard sort of Condition 1,2, 3 pattern. At the momebnt there is such huge variance in quality between the cars, the prices must vary.

I picked up a rust cat C Highline very recentkly for not a lot at all and I have a car to sell on behalf of a customer who wants £14000 for it - and it's not an M! In fact it's an E12.

djk wrote: ......... I guess you're a bit like where I was buying my first e30 - I wanted a minter, rather than the most desirable spec, so bought a brown 4dr 320i, and it is a pleasure to own.
Good point. A 316i in white with steels and cloth will be rarer than a 325i Sport.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 9:24 pm

The Classic Cars Price Guide this month lists 'em at:

633/ 628 CSI

Dealer price: £5000
Mint: £4000
Average: £2000
Rough: £700

635 CSI

Dealer price: £7000
Mint: £6250
Average: £2750
Rough: £800

M635 CSI

Dealer price: £12,000
Mint: £9500
Average: £5750
Rough: £2500


...looks like they're not too far off. (All a lot cheaper than one of those pug ugly 1 series Beemers too)! winkeye
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:05 pm

Price guides are bollocks though - there's no substitute for doing your homework. Apart from anything else, there's no certainty in the value of anything, it depends on how much someone is prepared to pay and how much they are asked to pay in each individual transaction.
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 10:44 pm

..yep, even so seems like the best plan is to buy the best car you can find, unless you can do your own bodywork/ paint

Just seen the Colonel has a 635CSI for under £7K, that sounds almost reasonable! :D
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Post Wed Jun 03, 2009 11:50 pm

Surprised he didn't find some nicer wheels to replace the TRXes - those pina reps look bloody awful!
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2009 1:07 am

They're not TRXs and they're not Alpina reps - they're the correct 14" E12 style wheels.

Assuming we're still talking about the 628i?
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:32 pm

cecotto479 wrote:They're not TRXs and they're not Alpina reps - they're the correct 14" E12 style wheels.

Assuming we're still talking about the 628i?
No, the one on Old colonel's website, with a bootful of TRX bottletops and fitted with some pretty nasty 17" alpina reps and budget tyres - mmmm.... selling point....
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Post Thu Jun 04, 2009 9:01 pm

Fair enough. Unusual for Old Colonel, though - their stuff is top notch, usually.
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Post Fri Jun 05, 2009 7:00 pm

Any E24 in very good condtition is growing in value now, indeed the 635 CSI is the business or the 635 M (M6) - but because its only a 628i dosnt mean its worth nearly nothing. One very good feature with this spesific car who is on the advert is a manual gearbox - who is nearly a reason why you should buy it?

If this car was a LHD and for sale in Germany - we are talking about +5000 euros at least if its so good as what the pictures are telling.
When it comes to the alloys, they arent that uniqe - but still its an orginal car who have been taked care of.