is this an open or lsd ?

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Fri May 08, 2009 10:52 pm

Hold the input flange then.
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m4xos wrote:
johnl320 wrote:hold the prop still and see what happens winkeye
cant now, its off the car!


i aint trying to blag anyone! got 100% postitive on my ebay account of 745 postives, and check my postives on e3zone, i aint here to blag anyone! i genuinely believ this to be lsd's! they spin the same way, and tags are correct!
If you don't hold the input still you can't tell anything.


Feeling for you dude, sucks.
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:56 pm

tell ya what 325sideways, send it back to me from directcouriersolutions.co.uk and once ive received it and recognised its exactly the same diff will pay the full money back! dont want to upset anybody, or anything, so saves shit, send it monday and i will receive it tuesday!
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:56 pm

m4xos wrote:
johnl320 wrote:hold the prop still and see what happens winkeye
cant now, its off the car!


i aint trying to blag anyone! got 100% postitive on my ebay account of 745 postives, and check my postives on e3zone, i aint here to blag anyone! i genuinely believ this to be lsd's! they spin the same way, and tags are correct!
Same here mate all i was trying to say is that its not an lsd and was just gutted when i took the cover of and seen it was an open diff, im 100% genuine and not a blager,100% 900+ pos feedback on ebay my self
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:56 pm

i always thought if you turned the input and both outputs turned the same way it was an lsd, if you turned the input and both outputs turned in opposite directions it was an open diff?
i remember testing it this way with a couple of supra/celica diffs a few years ago and it proved correct?
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Fri May 08, 2009 10:58 pm

fuzzy wrote:i always thought if you turned the input and both outputs turned the same way it was an lsd, if you turned the input and both outputs turned in opposite directions it was an open diff?
i remember testing it this way with a couple of supra/celica diffs a few years ago and it proved correct?
exactly what i thought mate but there ya go!!
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m4xos wrote:right button on my laptop is working for some f**ked up reason, so cant copy and paste..
Ctrl + c is copy
Ctrl + v is paste
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:02 pm

cheers h7fal will try that!
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fuzzy wrote:i always thought if you turned the input and both outputs turned the same way it was an lsd, if you turned the input and both outputs turned in opposite directions it was an open diff?
i remember testing it this way with a couple of supra/celica diffs a few years ago and it proved correct?
If you turn one wheel the other will turn the same way if it is an lsd.
If they turn in opposite directions or the other doesn't turn at all it is an open diff.
A better way to check is to just jack up one rear wheel and leave the other in contact with the ground. Try and turn the one that is raised and it should be difficult to turn. If it spins easily its an open diff.
All of the above is fine if the diff is in the car but if it is out i wouldn't trust tags i would remove the back plate and see what is in there.
If what you see is what is in the 2 pics m4xos has posted you have an open diff.
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:13 pm

your right , im getting even more confused.i knew there was a same way/opposite direction thing going on somewhere :cry:
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:15 pm

the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

i know how to find an lsd spin the same way, off the car the driftshafts turn 1, the other 1 goes the same way etc etc! i aint thick!
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:17 pm

m4xos wrote:i aint thick!
'I am not thick'

(just teasing :P )
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m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

i know how to find an lsd spin the same way, off the car the driftshafts turn 1, the other 1 goes the same way etc etc! i aint thick!
Was that with it in gear?
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Elecblondie wrote:
m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

i know how to find an lsd spin the same way, off the car the driftshafts turn 1, the other 1 goes the same way etc etc! i aint thick!
Was that with it in gear?
nope!
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[quote="m4xos"]the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

if i spin the output shaft on the diff you sent me the other one spins the opposite direction
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:26 pm

m4xos wrote:ive also got a 3.91 ratio 2.5 lsd, luckily its here so will open that up too!!!
did you open it up ?
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325sideways wrote:
m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

if i spin the output shaft on the diff you sent me the other one spins the opposite direction
really???

are you sure!!?? i swear i checked it before i packed up to make sure it was the right one! i have 2 broken 318 lsd's, 1broken 318 open diff, and 1 non broken 318 open diff!
it shouldnt be turning at all, hence broken, it didnt turn!!!
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325sideways wrote:
m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

if i spin the output shaft on the diff you sent me the other one spins the opposite direction
Of course it will its an open diff
There is no need for any more 'spinning' of anything your pic comfirmed its an open diff in your first post!
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:32 pm

i reckon ive sent the wrong diff fella! lol,
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m4xos wrote:
325sideways wrote:
m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

if i spin the output shaft on the diff you sent me the other one spins the opposite direction
really???

are you sure!!?? i swear i checked it before i packed up to make sure it was the right one! i have 2 broken 318 lsd's, 1broken 318 open diff, and 1 non broken 318 open diff!
it shouldnt be turning at all, hence broken, it didnt turn!!!
im being 100% with you i paid you good money for that diff would be nice if you could be the same ? the input shaft wont turn so yes its broken but the out put shafts still turn !!
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:33 pm

All my wheels spin in the same direction :? Am i thick :?
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:35 pm

m4xos wrote:i reckon ive sent the wrong diff fella! lol,
I reckon you need to get your spanners out and see if you actually own any lsd's at all.
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:35 pm

i am being nice, ive offerd to pay all money back mate, just send it back, cant be dealing with it now, sent you the wrong diff, my mistake i agree
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m4xos wrote:i am being nice, ive offerd to pay all money back mate, just send it back, cant be dealing with it now, sent you the wrong diff, my mistake i agree
thank you it was just a long way round it lol
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:37 pm

m4xos wrote:
Elecblondie wrote:
m4xos wrote:the funniest thing is, that pic i have posted up... with that diff on, jack the car up both wheel spin the same direction etc. etc. etc.

i know how to find an lsd spin the same way, off the car the driftshafts turn 1, the other 1 goes the same way etc etc! i aint thick!
Was that with it in gear?
nope!
Well therein lies the reason. If the input isn't immobilised then you'll just spin the prop freely and both wheels will spin in the same direction, just the same as when the car is normally driving.
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:41 pm

:hammer: ello ello, "sent the wrong diff"

i have the real PROPER lsd's in my shed then, thought this was one of them! its quite hard when they all look the same, same place, all broken!

send it back sideways! cheers m4xos
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m4xos wrote::hammer: ello ello, "sent the wrong diff"

i have the real PROPER lsd's in my shed then, thought this was one of them! its quite hard when they all look the same, same place, all broken!

send it back sideways! cheers m4xos
Cheers will get it sent monday you should have it tuesday
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Fri May 08, 2009 11:49 pm

cheers mate, once confirmed its the same diff from my photos i took for ebay, then will send ya money striaght back! sorry for sending wrong one! i aint here to blag no one! cheers max
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Nice birmingham slippers! Got to be pleased with the fucked open one going for £191.
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Jon_Bmw wrote:Nice birmingham slippers! Got to be pleased with the ****** open one going for £191.
sent the wrong one actually fella! easy mistake when they all look the same, and are all f**ked!!

the bloke already picked that one from the bay about an hour ago, checked it and all good actually mate! hes a mechanic so obviously knows whats hes doing! not the one in the pic, thats obviously my unbroken 318 open diff!
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Sat May 09, 2009 5:48 pm

I was just kidding. :) You're going to be annoyingly out of pocket with the postage charges! Oh well the broken LSD should pay for that I guess.
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its only 15quid, serves me right tho, should label things where and when i take things off!
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Sat May 09, 2009 5:51 pm

I'd be telling the other guy to keep the open diff as it is hardly worth the postage charge
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Sat May 09, 2009 5:52 pm

even 191 for a broken lsd isnt bad.
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