Will a 318i pull a car transporter + car?

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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:25 pm

with another 318i on it?
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:27 pm

yes
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:28 pm

We towed a 325 in a 1.4 seat ibiza so I reckon it'd have a good go.
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:30 pm

Yeah go for it. So long as your clutch and cooling system is sound.

I pulled a 325i touring about 40miles in my Civic on Saturday.


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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:39 pm

it sort of looks like this, only its big enough to fit a big van on.

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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:45 pm

200 mile round trip :eek: :cry:
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:55 pm

So you want to tow a trailer with the same car on it as you're towing with...? You got to be having a laugh!

The trailer and contents, as a whole, shouldn't weigh more than the car pulling it. If it gets a bit 'interesting' you could be in trouble... especially down a hill.

You could 'pull' it... but it's a) not legal and b) unsafe to do so.

Be aware that it's dangerous, and take great care.

Sorry to put a downer on it... but I don't want you getting yourself, or your car(s), hurt.

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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:57 pm

Yes is the short answer, personally I'd rather have a 2.5 to pull it. I hope you have the westfalia towbar that goes behind the bumper too.

Any way the point is it would be illegal as it is over the designated towing weights for the 318 (as determined by BMW), and probably over the limit of what your driving licance says you can tow (which is up to 3/4 of the unladen weight of the tow vehicle and a combination not weighing over 3.5 tonnes if you got your licance recently). I will have to get my hand book to prove it.... oh really can't be bothered. I think the max for a 325 (cos I just got a tow bar and looked up what I can tow) is something like 1850 kilos, and that trailer with another 318 will weigh more than that. As a general rule with an unbraked trailer you shouldn't really tow more than 3/4 of the weight of the tow vehicle. Oh and the 318 was listed as being able to tow less.

Any way I would do it if I was you and I really had to, but my dad would go ape if he knew. Can't you borrow a landie or somthing off some one. Oh and if you do do it, make sure everything works 100% lights, over run brakes, tyres, numberplate, and grease the bearings - so the cops dont have an excuse.
PS smithy where are you going and why?
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:58 pm

thats a no then. :cry:
never mind.
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Post Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:59 pm

Where and why Smithy? You found a bargain?
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:00 am

smithy318i wrote:thats a no then. :cry:
never mind.
just do it......

chicken!

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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:01 am

I do this a few times a year. Almost certainly illegal and definitely dangerous.
I find it OK up to 55MPH, but above that it suddenly becomes unstable, and the tail starts to wag the dog.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:04 am

If it's just a one off I guess you could rent a van or something.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:10 am

Not worth the hastle.
Ill look for something closer to home.

i only wanted the seats.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:10 am

Yeah just do it!! Too much nanny state.

Just be responsible, and be aware of the risks. Check you equipment is 100% ( ha ha very funny....) And take it easy. It always takes twice as long with a trailer, and takes twice as much concentration. ( 0 times 2 = 0 so none in my case) Have you done any towing before?

You wouldn't have thought, but this is legal! The boat + trailer only weighs about 500kg.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:12 am

Where is it located, exactly cos I'm in yourkshire and could probably help, especially if you only want the seats.

PS if Brian says he does it it's as good as Jesus saying he does it, I bet he does too :lol: Oh and if you wondered "God drove Adam and Eve out of the garden of Eden in a rage" so Jesus'es dad drives a Plymouth!! :mad: :roll:
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:15 am

Hmmm,

Civic about 900kg, pulled 1250kg touring ok!

But then it was on a straight bar!

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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:20 am

Towing with a bar is different though basically cos someone is steering it and there is no load on the back axle like the tongue of a trailer. Oh and did you know you are only supposed to tow another car with a rope or bar "if it is causing hazard or danger to other traffic" - fcuking nanny state.

If only they let people do what ever they wanted then idiots who do stuff like this in an unsafe way would kill them selves and decreas the population, survival of the fittest I say. Ahem..... hmm //RANT OVER//
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:30 am

At the weekend I saw someone towing with a rope on the motorway ?!? I thought this was illegal unles say the Police or AA do it to clear the road ?
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:41 am

Avatar theft!!!

It is illegal on a motorway (rope) rigid is okay (is for AA anyway)
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:03 am

Personally, if it has four wheels, I'd tow it on a rigid bar, rather than a trailer.
If it has four wheels and a working engine, then I'd drive it.
May not be legal, but at least it's safe.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:57 am

Unbraked trailer - 500kg
Braked trailer - 1200kg

I would go for rigid bar I think, unless you can borrow a 4WD of some description. X5 would be a good choice, 6000kg braked trailer limit!
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 12:59 pm

Pleas excuse my ignorance(sp?) but how does a rigid bar fit?
I assume you need a towbar!
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:10 pm

Nope, it bolts through the towing eye on the front of the car and the rear of the tow car.

PS if you use an X5 to tow 6000kg you will need some sort of licance as the current limit is 3500kg for a combination.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:36 pm

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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:40 pm

Yeah they are really good cos you can tow a car with a fecked engine and the guy steering doesn't have to bread you do it all for him. Also there is no chance of him rolling in to the back of you if you stop too fast. Where is the car mate?
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:46 pm

it's in west yorkshire (don't know exactly)
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:00 pm

we were towing a brian james trailer with a nissan 200sx on the iother day with a e36 2.0, was fine outside lane overtaking still... just check out the rear suspension out as the e36 ended up bottoming out (its on coilovers) and eventually popped a halfshaft last hour of the trip was one wheel drive. so yeh you can do it. just go steady though and think of all the weight the brakes are going to have to haul to a stop.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:26 pm

How long hads it got smithy? And find out exactly where it is cos Daz and I are both down here so I'm sure we could work something out.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:36 pm

5 1/2 hours left
just asked for location.
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:44 pm

What's it on?
Give us a link mate, I promise I'm not going to bid against you Mu ha ha ha (evil laugh) :lol: I already have 2 scrappers to get rid of parts from! :cry:

Don't worry mate just found it on ebay....... now if i can only work out how to place a bid hmmmmmmmmm :twisted:
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:49 pm

Widge: PM sent
how much d ya recon?
I plan on putting the seats in mine. fixing the rust, then selling it.
if i win :roll:
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:51 pm

Widge wrote:What's it on?
Give us a link mate, I promise I'm not going to bid against you Mu ha ha ha (evil laugh) :lol: I already have 2 scrappers to get rid of parts from! :cry:

Don't worry mate just found it on ebay....... now if i can only work out how to place a bid hmmmmmmmmm :twisted:
Dont you dare. :cry: ill kill you with my Bare hands :lol:
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:59 pm

Hi J27 M62 south of Leeds
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Post Tue Aug 02, 2005 11:11 pm

Won it!
Ԛ£200.01

And there is NO LAW AGAINST TOWING ON A MOTORWAY.
If your vehicle is capable of being towed safely then you can arrange for a friend or relative to come and tow you with a normal towrope. There is no law against towing on the motorway as long as it is done safely and within the 60 mph speed limit for cars and trailers.
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