Opinion please .... Toyo versus Dunlop versus Nankang

[Lordschleife]

Im running nankangs all round lol, maybe thats why i get constant understeer and front wheel sliding in the wet, they seem to be a bit sh*t. Best set up would be nangcraps on the rear, and some F1's or similar up front!

That sounds like a recipie for spinning off the road to me <shrug>
Best setup would be the same decent make tyres all round, if you need to alter the balance you could then try slight pressure adjustments?

[320Touring]

anyone heard of barum,no1 autocar magazine,205,50,15 at 39 each to go on my bbs-will let you know cos im gonna gett em

barum are conti's "budget" brand-driven tehm a few times and for the money they are very good-tidy in the dry and surefooted in the wet

As long as they dont overheat, I head of someone driving with these on the ring and within 2 laps the rubber had 'chunked'

fair play, but they dont say "suitable for horsing round the nurburgring" on the sidewall, and at those prices, they're actually a decent tyre

[E30BeemerLad]

Yoko 205/40/17 A539's Ԛ£69 a corner fitted, new valve & balanced at my local tyre place. Not bad I thought

I've got nankangs on and they are shite. Put it this way they don't inspire me to push the car on corners that much even in the dry and the grip is tragic in the wet. For Yoko's at that price there's no excuse for buying nankangs.

They were on my car when I got it by the way

[Lordschleife]

fair play, but they dont say "suitable for horsing round the nurburgring" on the sidewall

True, just thought I'd point it out incase anyone likes their roundabout antics

[Lordschleife]

Another thought, if you want cheap tyres why not buy the toyos in 205/50/15 instead of 205/55/15, they'll be a few quid cheaper and you get the added advantage of slightly lowering your car and improving the gearing for better acceleration

I'll probably do this when I need a new set

[GDBN]

See the point there but I am at standard ride height ... won't 205/50 look a bit small in comparison to the 195/65 ?? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick ?? Would dearly love the car to look lower ...

[6potWil6pot]

I ran both Toyos and Nankangs on my old E30, the Nangcraps were rubbish in the wet, but they were hard wearing. Toyos T1-Rs were great, esp considering the price they go for, however a bit soft. They wore noticebly quicker than the Nangkangs even tho i didnt have the car all that long!

[Lordschleife]

See the point there but I am at standard ride height ... won't 205/50 look a bit small in comparison to the 195/65 ?? Or have I got the wrong end of the stick ?? Would dearly love the car to look lower ...

You have 195/65/15?? they're too big
195/65 is the size for 14in rims
205/55 is the std 15" size

This might help
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

[GDBN]

Yes mate ...changing from bottletops to BBS at long last .....
195/65/14 to 205/55/15 or 205/50/15 ...sorry I didn't make that clear !

[Lordschleife]

in which case 205/55 will be the same size
the 205/50 are about 2cm diameter smaller, so that would be a 20mm drop, the tyres still look OK in my opinion

[SwirlyE30]

How much would a couple of Toyo T1's set me back for the front wheels? 15x7.5.

I can live with shit rear tires for a little bit, but the fronts worry me!

[Lordschleife]

http://www.mytyres.co.uk/ lists
205/50 R15 PROXES T1-S Ԛ£43.20 each expected delivery time 1-2 weeks
But I wouldnt trust that as I dont think they're produced anymore?
However
205/50 R15 PROXES T1-R Ԛ£45.50 each

205/55 R15 PROXES T1-R Ԛ£49.20 each

[Simon]

Or here http://www.camskill.co.uk/

They're listed at Ԛ£49 each on there, and their service is superb.

[Lordschleife]

Going back to the original question Dunlop SP Sport 9000 gets a good review
http://www2.sicherbestellen.de/reifente ... stcom.html

[Jhonno]

Mytyres are excellent as well - cheap and on time!

[Jhonno]

If id have had the money i would definately have gone for the Sp9000's over the F1's and the Toyo's

Looking at the ratings they get - they cost that little bit more for a very good reason - wet and dry grip and sensible wear rates!! I will get some next time when money is at less of a premium

[Simon]

I'm sure somebody mentioned you have to order 4 tyres at a time with mytyres?

[Jhonno]

2 or 4

[Jhonno]

sure you could get just the one from them some how...

[GDBN]

Thought I would finally go for the Dunlop .... now the price on the internet has gone up by Ԛ£20 per tyre ..bast*rds
Missed out on that bargain .....

So looks like the Toyo T1-R's unless the price goes down again but the way my luck is going they will go up further !!

[Adammcf]

I'm sure somebody mentioned you have to order 4 tyres at a time with mytyres?

I ordered 2 Toyos from them last year for my GSI.

[SwirlyE30]

Thinking im gonna order some fronts next month, bit skint this time round!

Not sure if i should go for 50 or 55,s , im only changing the fronts first so i doubt it will do anything performance wise.

Cheers for the advice guys!

[Lordschleife]

You could always stick you rears on the front, then put new 205/50 on the rear?
Though I think if your only switching two you're probably best staying on the same tyre size all round.
I'd still rotate & put the new tyres on the rear though, probably better that way from a wear point of view, and safety having better tyres at the back

[SwirlyE30]

lol yeh good point mate! Or i could not be so cheap and buy a whole new set of 4, might be better tbh! Then leave these nangwanks to put on some sh*t 5 spokes or somthing for smoking out

[Zayyan]

If you're putting new tyres on the rear don't expect any grip for the first 100 miles or so!

EDIT: Just in case you didn't know, because I didn't 'til I had a bit of a scare after putting new rears on

[Lordschleife]

Yep, gotta get the releasing compound off, go well easy if its wet, and carefull of those white lines/manhole covers!

[johnono]

:yeahthat: i had fun in the rain this week

[SwirlyE30]

Yeh. At the end of the day id much rather good fronts. The only time ive felt uncomfortable or have lost it is when the fronts just dont do anything causing me to lose control, understeer is the gay

[Lordschleife]

Hmm well I ended up 90 degree to a roundabout today with my shitty rear tyres in the wet when they let go without warning, personally I find a little understeer much easier to deal with <shrug>

[irish320i]

had nankangs with my first wheels hadnt driven e30 before that changed to the dunlops when the nankangs wore out could nt beleive the difference car handles so much better can push it a lot harder in the bends well worth the extra

[mrLEE30]

i have bridgestone potenza on my cabby and Falkens on my sport (both 16/205/50, no difference what so ever, but Falkens half price! cant vouch for wet as it never rains here!!

mrlee

[GDBN]

Thinking about lowering now as the front shocks need replacing anyway .... held the tyre order .... now 205/50/15 I think if it's lowered 40mm

[luxconvertible]

i've had those toyos b4 an they lasted about 4 months they well soft!!good tyres in the winter though, now got some cheapo wan li's Ԛ£130 for 2 ive done about 10 dirty burnouts with them an they stil look like new
dangerous in the wet mind u, but i like a challege!!
made of PLASTIC!!!
definatly be gettin some toyos 4 the winter period though!!
If in doubt wip the back end out!!

[StuBeeDoo]

Just my 2p.......
Dunlops are the best when it's dry, but I find them noisy.
Goodyears rule in the wet and they're quieter.
Pirellis and Nankangs last forever but are bordering on dangerous in the wet.
My Touring had Nankangs on when I bought it and I couldn't wait to wear them out. As it was I had them changed at 3.5mm. I'd put 20k on them and only scrubbed off 3mm!!
I have Lassas on at the moment. They're ok for me, but you guys would probably find they don't have enough grip in the wet.
Next time it will have to be Goodyears for me - I always used to insist on them, and I think I'll be going back to them.

[peejay]

RIGHT HERE WE GO......... it wont be the first time & it probably wont be the last time that I am the odd one out on here but i have to tell you that I have Nankang Ultra Sports NS=II 205/40/R17 84V on my 325i Motorsport. In the past on other E30's i have had I've worn Falkens, Avons, Pirelli's and the like and IMO these are top notch tyres!!

I drive the car how it should be driven and since Ive had these boots on I actually add a few more RPM's on cornering cos I know I can confidently.

How can so many of us be so diverse in our thinking ?

Peejay.