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Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:24 pm

Seen a nice 1 for sale on pistonheads at a dealer.
Can you still get a good finance deal on a car that old.
Would you still be able to get finance with this credit crunch lark.
The car is £10.900.
Somebody on here must deal with finance and must know,
How deposit would i need.
How much would it cost a month.
What would be best going through the dealer or my bank,but then again banks are not keen to lend money these days.
Any advice most welcome :cool:
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Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:35 pm

christ how many more nightmarish bmw shitboxes do you need? :o

have you got a platinum wallet or something?
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Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:44 pm

If you have to borrow the money to buy it, how are you going to afford to fix it ?
Save your money and your credit cards, you will need them for the other weighbridge dodger you have just bought ! :)
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Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:48 pm

pacerpete wrote:If you have to borrow the money to buy it, how are you going to afford to fix it ?
Save your money and your credit cards, you will need them for the other weighbridge dodger you have just bought ! :)
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Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:43 pm

what is the "weighbridge dodger" then? do tell :)
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:11 am

AlexBaur325 wrote:what is the "weighbridge dodger" then? do tell :)
You posted on that thread all of 2 minutes before this one! :)

At least the E32 isn't much of a risk...
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 11:06 am

was verrrry tired ziggy


with it now :o:
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:41 pm

Hey guys everybody has dreams and owning a 8 is 1 of mine.
Maybe just not right now but some day hey :cool:
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:33 pm

You must be mad to pay 10k plus for a 8 series! My friend had one and the dealer wanted to buy it back (against a new 7!) for 3.500.......
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 6:45 pm

Isn't 10k on the way to 850csi money?

Big bucks cars.
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http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/908564.htm

Now tell me guys hand on heart you would not give your left bollock for that,sex on wheels man sex on wheels :cool:
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Would rather have a Porsche 911 for that dough, with galvanised body - 8 series can rust quite badly. Besides, it's a lardy boulevard cruiser with auto box. Best left for fat Americans or Medallion Man :wink:
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Each to there own as they say life would be a drag if we where all the same :D
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:24 pm

Speedtouch wrote:Would rather have a Porsche 911 for that dough, with galvanised body - 8 series can rust quite badly.
So do 911s - galvanised body or not.

Entirely different types of car aimed at entirely different people. If you like the 911, you're unlikely to want an 8.

However, I'd rather spend the extra £1500 and get an 850 CSi or save £7000 and get an 840ci you could bin if it starts to cost fortunes. It wouldn't be my £11000 on that.
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Sat Mar 28, 2009 10:25 pm

Nice motor, I looked at that on PH before. Not worth the money tho, and an electrical nightmare.
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griff87 wrote:an electrical nightmare.
Yhh thats exactly what puts me off those cars!
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Nogaro325 wrote:http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/908564.htm

Now tell me guys hand on heart you would not give your left bollock for that,sex on wheels man sex on wheels :cool:
Drive one first don't just go by looks. I wasn't too impressed.
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griff87 wrote:an electrical nightmare.
Yhh thats exactly what puts me off those cars!
i keep hearing things like this about big bmw's. are bmw known for shoddy electrics in the top end cars?
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Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:55 am

i do like 8's but i dont think id pay that much for one. think id get a really well sorted 928 GTS for that money.
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To be honest, the whole 'electrical nightmare' thing is a bit of a myth - you only ever hear the horror stories, rarely the people who have no major issues at all. Simple fact is any prestige car with problems is going to cost a lot of money to fix, be it a Porsche, BMW, Ferrari, whatever. The 840 probably will work out cheaper for parts than a Porsche or Ferrari, as it has E34/39 and E32/38 commonality on a lot of components - and again, that should point to the amount of truth in the 'electrical nightmare' stories. A £3k 850 is probably going to have sunk to the bottom and have had some hard use and shoddy servicing along the way. I'd say a late, good, clean 840Ci or 850Ci is almost certainly worth close to £10k, and a CSi a reasonable bit more.
A £10k 911 (most likely a 964 these days) is going to be a bit of a gamble too. My father has had several 928's when they were current, the last was a 95 GTS, they're a fantastic car, but, again, you will pay a premium for a good one - and a bad one will be a money pit...
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:15 pm

My mates 840 was a PRISTINE example, every thing working, fully dealer maintained from new. And just that very dealer offered 3.5k partex for a new 7 series. Bought for 20k two years eralier.
10k? You must be joking
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Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:21 pm

Most of the time a simple electric problem can be made so dramatic so that stupid owners will pay whatever the mechanic wants them to.

Hence urban myths about electrical problems... if you have some decent knowledge about electrical systems in cars or know someone who owns a multimeter etc. Most electrical problems can be found by running "8 series" of tests.

Excuse the pun :wink:
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Nogaro325 wrote:http://www.pistonheads.com/SALES/908564.htm

man sex on wheels :cool:
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UweM3 wrote:My mates 840 was a PRISTINE example, every thing working, fully dealer maintained from new. And just that very dealer offered 3.5k partex for a new 7 series. Bought for 20k two years eralier.
10k? You must be joking
I beg to differ, a car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, within reason. A good, clean, late 90's 4.4 840Ci is worth 10k. A main BMW dealer is going to have little to no interest in buying a 10 year old car of any variety, even as a trade in against the most expensive model. They are pretty unlikely to put it on the forecourt - it'll just go to auction where it could go for anything between that 3.5k and it's book value (or possibly more) on the day.
If you look at the 8's below £5k, almost all of them are shabby 850i's or early 4.0 840Ci's. It's a similar situation with 635CSi's (and the occasional M635CSi) - and with Porsche 928's. A shabby one is fairly cheap - and probably not worth repairing.
I always thought the 850Ci indicated the 5.4 engine (the 5.0 being the 850i) , but, I'm now not so sure having had a trawl about. The 840Ci is a relatively rare car - 7000 sold world-wide (4000 4.0's, 3000 4.4's), and the 5.4 850Ci and CSi are both around the 1500 mark each, compare that with the 5.0 850i / 850Ci with 20000.
I don't think their values will drop much more for a good one - certainly the 6 series values have picked up, as have 928's, and as the crappy examples die, I can forsee some people buying 8's to keep. They are a very good GT car, not the sports car the E24 was, but, the last of the relatively easy to work on large BMW coupes. The current 6 seems to have turned people off a bit with it's weight, looks and price. Even the relatively unloved when new Z8 seems to be rocketing up in values - they could hardly sell them when new and now they seem to be going for what they were new. Pity I turned one down for £30k last year - the same car sold for £80k a few weeks ago...
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Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:28 pm

Speedtouch wrote:Would rather have a Porsche 911 for that dough, with galvanised body - 8 series can rust quite badly. Besides, it's a lardy boulevard cruiser with auto box. Best left for fat Americans or Medallion Man :wink:
I've never seen a rusty 8 series!
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